Should you be able to use your own posts to score points?

[Line6 HXFX]

Your posts are right there.
The opposition infringe in your 22 or your half, on the way to cheating themselves into a try, or turnover penalty or scrum penalty..and so instead of kicking the pen to touch and gaining 30 metres, why shouldn't you be able to just turn around and score 3 points (from the mark) through your own posts?

Everything matters during a rugby game, so whether a team is cheating or offending in defence or attack shouldn't matter. You should be able to collect points no matter how far you are from their posts (by using yours to score points)..

[Rhubarb & Custard]

So encourage the team given the penalty to kick for points rather than seek territory and a chance to attack off 1st phase?

And encourage the team who were on attack to instead kick the ball away lest they be penalised on attack?

What could go wrong!

[Line6 HXFX]

So encourage the team given the penalty to kick for points rather than seek territory and a chance to attack off 1st phase?

And encourage the team who were on attack to instead kick the ball away lest they be penalised on attack?

What could go wrong!

Not sure you get how brilliantly revolutionary and frankly genius my thing is.
Why is cheating and being a massive cheating cunt in the oppositions 22, which could result in cheating paying off spectacularly..and a crucial 7 points if successful,... but being caught cheating..can only result in a clear the lines thing for the defence?
Surely the cheater wins..in this scenario, every time if we were to game it.

Why not just you know..allow the defensive side to kick three points..though their own posts if you infringe in their 22 or half etc?

[Sandstorm]

Not sure you get how brilliantly revolutionary and frankly genius my thing is.

You just back from the pub, REFRY?

[Line6 HXFX]

Not sure you get how brilliantly revolutionary and frankly genius my thing is.

You just back from the pub, REFRY?

It's about risk vs reward.
Cheating in the opposition 22 or opposition half, can result in match winning results, so is worth it..and the only thing you really sacrifice is being marched back 30 metres (via penaltyl if penalised).

Just saying why shouldn't the defence be able to turn around, and collect 3 points, through their own posts, instead of having to have some shitty lineout,nthat the opposition couldn't care less about?

[Slick]

Not sure you get how brilliantly revolutionary and frankly genius my thing is.

You just back from the pub, REFRY?

It's about risk vs reward.
Cheating in the opposition 22 or opposition half, can result in match winning results, so is worth it..and the only thing you really sacrifice is being marched back 30 metres (via penaltyl if penalised.
Just saying the defence should be able to turn around, and collect 3 points, through their own posts.

Have you got a name for your new sport?

[Sandstorm]

Not sure you get how brilliantly revolutionary and frankly genius my thing is.

You just back from the pub, REFRY?

It's about risk vs reward.
Cheating in the opposition 22 or opposition half, can result in match winning results, so is worth it..and the only thing you really sacrifice is being marched back 30 metres (via penaltyl if penalised).

Just saying why shouldn't the defence be able to turn around, and collect 3 points, through their own posts, instead of having to have some shitty lineout,nthat the opposition couldn't care less about?

Not all penalties are a result of cheating, mate. Except in Ireland.

[Line6 HXFX]

You just back from the pub, REFRY?

It's about risk vs reward.
Cheating in the opposition 22 or opposition half, can result in match winning results, so is worth it..and the only thing you really sacrifice is being marched back 30 metres (via penaltyl if penalised).

Just saying why shouldn't the defence be able to turn around, and collect 3 points, through their own posts, instead of having to have some shitty lineout,nthat the opposition couldn't care less about?

Not all penalties are a result of cheating, mate. Except in Ireland.

Risk vs reward.

You defend and infringe (cynically or whatever) and the whole world collapses in on you, yellow cards, penalty tries.you attack and infringe, and cynically cheat to get a try etc that could win the match ....and you what...

Defend a lineout?

[Sandstorm]

Risk vs reward.

Just like playing a sport where brain trauma is a possibility?

[Line6 HXFX]

Erm do you think you can stick to how brilliant and amazing my ideas are for 3 minutes..honestly, its like I'm wasted.

[Sinkers]

That idea is definitely like you’re wasted mate.

[Line6 HXFX]

That idea is definitely like you’re wasted mate.

hah..its like I didn't make the joke.

So what is so bad about my idea?


Aaaaaannnnnnd ....go...

[Sandstorm]

That idea is definitely like you’re wasted mate.

hah..its like I didn't make the joke.

So what is so bad about my idea?


Aaaaaannnnnnd ....go...

Kicking backwards in Rugby is stupid, the game is about making gains at all times.
Also kicking over your own goal posts is what every 10 will do after the other 10 restarts. Catch, spin and shoot. Over and over again. 3-3. 6-6. 9-9. 12-12. Ludicrous.
Or if you miss, it's a 5 yard scrum to the oppo. Risk vs reward is off the charts!

Apart from that....great idea.

[Line6 HXFX]

That idea is definitely like you’re wasted mate.

hah..its like I didn't make the joke.

So what is so bad about my idea?


Aaaaaannnnnnd ....go...

Kicking backwards in Rugby is stupid, the game is about making gains at all times.
Also kicking over your own goal posts is what every 10 will do after the other 10 restarts. Catch, spin and shoot. Over and over again. 3-3. 6-6. 9-9. 12-12. Ludicrous.
Or if you miss, it's a 5 yard scrum to the oppo. Risk vs reward is off the charts!

Apart from that....great idea.

Lol...
Erm you know it is only when a penalty is awarded against the attacking team.and so instead of kicking to touch for a lineout, (as always happens) you get to earn three points through your own posts, and thus discouraging hail marry like, no consequence offences from the opposition?

That you are not kicking between your own posts, during matchplay randomly like a mad twat?

Guys, honestly, you have to do better than misrepresent my genius.

Bathe in it, in wonder.

[inactionman]

No.

[Line6 HXFX]

No.

Yes.

[C69]

No.

Yes.

You have to kick the ball forward through the mark I believe

[Niegs]

Cue more appeals to the ref for every ruck infringement by the attacking side. Then by the attacking side accusing the defending side of attempting to set them up, like pulling out of a ruck last second to make the attacker flop.

[FalconJock]

Cue more appeals to the ref for every ruck infringement by the attacking side. Then by the attacking side accusing the defending side of attempting to set them up, like pulling out of a ruck last second to make the attacker flop.

I'd like to see that punished, it's similar to the old behaviour of the scrum half dummying from the base of the ruck/scrum which has now been eradicated.

I'd also like to see the ref reversing penalising teams for persistant appealing for penalties or for questioning the ref if they aren't the captain or pack leader.

[Sandstorm]

Cue more appeals to the ref for every ruck infringement by the attacking side. Then by the attacking side accusing the defending side of attempting to set them up, like pulling out of a ruck last second to make the attacker flop.

That is punished regularly by SA refs.

[average joe]

Wait until he finds out rugby has no "own goal".

[Line6 HXFX]

Say you're an Irish player and you have won the last 21 matches by deliberately trapping players in the bottom of rucks in the oppositions 22, and getting your scrum half to wave his arms about... and you finally get caught, and instead of it working, being awarded a penalty try, yellow card and three points...you have 3 points kicked against you and the sanction is greater than "defend a lineout"?
Will make them think twice right?


Say you are another Irish player (not having a go at the irish) and you have made a career out of perfecting amazing crossing blocking cynical moves, in the opposition 22, that you run 70 times in training every week..and for once the TV match official notices, shouldn't you be a little more penalised than just having to lift up one of your mates in a lineout 20 metres away, and trying to cheat there too?.

Say you are another Irish player who worked out that collapsing the attacking scrum in the opposition 22 has a 78% success rate of you being awarded a penalty or penalty try, and you finally get penalised..don't the people you are trying to cheat (the ref, the opposition, their supporters, the good wholesome name of rugby, childhood innocence and all things honourable and decent in this world.. ) deserve 3 points instead of a lineout in their own half?

I am trying to save rugby here.

[average joe]

The Boks will still have lost because Libbok would have missed anyways.

[Line6 HXFX]

The Boks will still have lost because Libbok would have missed anyways.

[Insane_Homer]

How about...

The team in their own half can only earn a penalty kick at their own polls if they win the penalty while in possession & attempting to run/carry the ball out of their half in open play?
Do you stick to open play or include rucks, scrums and lineouts?

Would it encourage more running rugby, ball-carrying and less kicking from your own half...?
Would it deter teams from being willing to concede those pens?

& could you conceivably lose a game while never actually playing any rugby in your own half?

[Line6 HXFX]

I hereby christen this new law, that will definately come into being, ( as how the fuck could it not) ...as "the Refry Law".

And everytime it is inacted, you all think of me, and when you die, your kids and grandkids will think of me too.


My mark on the world is complete.

God....I am amazing

[Sinkers]

Wait until he finds out rugby has no "own goal".

Looks like it just might have:

https://twitter.com/loosest_the/status/ ... 9645877437

[Line6 HXFX]

So the arguements against are basically people pissed they didn't think of it first?
Thats what I am getting..
Look, my brain is actively thinking all the time, it's basically one original thought after another. I wouldn't be too hard on yourselves that you are not me, that you have none of these abilities and you are all just drowning in my wake.

. I do have some minor imperfections.

I can be too smart for some.

[Slick]

Say you're an Irish player and you have won the last 21 matches by deliberately trapping players in the bottom of rucks in the oppositions 22, and getting your scrum half to wave his arms about... and you finally get caught, and instead of it working, being awarded a penalty try, yellow card and three points...you have 3 points kicked against you and the sanction is greater than "defend a lineout"?
Will make them think twice right?


Say you are another Irish player (not having a go at the irish) and you have made a career out of perfecting amazing crossing blocking cynical moves, in the opposition 22, that you run 70 times in training every week..and for once the TV match official notices, shouldn't you be a little more penalised than just having to lift up one of your mates in a lineout 20 metres away, and trying to cheat there too?.

Say you are another Irish player who worked out that collapsing the attacking scrum in the opposition 22 has a 78% success rate of you being awarded a penalty or penalty try, and you finally get penalised..don't the people you are trying to cheat (the ref, the opposition, their supporters, the good wholesome name of rugby, childhood innocence and all things honourable and decent in this world.. ) deserve 3 points instead of a lineout in their own half?

I am trying to save rugby here.

You've done a remarkable job keeping this thread going for a while now

[Line6 HXFX]

Say you're an Irish player and you have won the last 21 matches by deliberately trapping players in the bottom of rucks in the oppositions 22, and getting your scrum half to wave his arms about... and you finally get caught, and instead of it working, being awarded a penalty try, yellow card and three points...you have 3 points kicked against you and the sanction is greater than "defend a lineout"?
Will make them think twice right?


Say you are another Irish player (not having a go at the irish) and you have made a career out of perfecting amazing crossing blocking cynical moves, in the opposition 22, that you run 70 times in training every week..and for once the TV match official notices, shouldn't you be a little more penalised than just having to lift up one of your mates in a lineout 20 metres away, and trying to cheat there too?.

Say you are another Irish player who worked out that collapsing the attacking scrum in the opposition 22 has a 78% success rate of you being awarded a penalty or penalty try, and you finally get penalised..don't the people you are trying to cheat (the ref, the opposition, their supporters, the good wholesome name of rugby, childhood innocence and all things honourable and decent in this world.. ) deserve 3 points instead of a lineout in their own half?

I am trying to save rugby here.

You've done a remarkable job keeping this thread going for a while now

Never doubt my commitment to a British sense of fairness and fairplay. .

So the irish etc (not having a go in an attempt to wind them up to keep the thread going etc...South Africans and English are also welcome) should be able to wildly cheat in their oppositions 22, and their punishment should just be "defend a lineout in their opponents half"?

That's what you are going with?

What if (having been nearly cheated out of the game).. you have a terrible lineout, what if you (like you would in the oppositions half) wanted to actually take the points instead of kicking for touch and having a useless lineout, that will get monstered by the opposition. Why must you have to set up an attack, in the modern game from inside your own half, into modern, deadly, deeply delighted defences, when you will have to kick the ball away anyway, and hand the opposition the ball halfway through the first phase?

Of course there should be the option of being able to avoid all that shite, and use your own posts to just take the 3.