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RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:03 am
by GrahamWa
No thread for this game

Where: Allianz Riviera (Nice)

When: 16:45 BST

Teams

Scotland:

15. Kinghorn
14. Steyn
13. Harris
12. Tuipulotu
11. Van der Merwe
10. Russell
9. White
1. Sutherland
2. Turner
3. Z Fagerson;
4. R Gray
5. Cummings
6. Ritchie (c)
7. Darge
8. Dempsey

Replacements: Ashman, Schoeman, Nel, Skinner, M Fagerson, Horne, Jones, Graham

Teams

Tonga
15. Piutau
14. Kata
13. Fekitoa
12. Ahki
11. Taumoepeau
10. Havili
9. Pulu
1. Fisi’ihoi
2. Ngauamo
3. Tameifuna (c)
4. L Fifita
5. Lousi
6. Halaifonua
7. Talitui,
8. V Fifita

Replacements: Moli, Kolomatangi, Apikotoa, Coleman, Paea, Vailanu, Takulua, Pellegrini

Referee team: Karl Dickson, assisted by Nika Amashukeli and Craig Evans plus TMO Ben Whitehouse (again).

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am
by Slick
Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:13 am
by dkm57
Just hope we don't collectively sh1t the bed :roll:

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:10 pm
by Jock42
Scotland by 35

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:13 pm
by Slick
Jock42 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:10 pmScotland by 35
Have you started doing yoga or something? I’m sure you were a miserable cunt before but now you are our shining light of positivity

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:23 pm
by Yr Alban
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win
My main concern regarding a BP is Harris at 13.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:24 pm
by Yr Alban
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:13 pm
Jock42 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:10 pmScotland by 35
Have you started doing yoga or something? I’m sure you were a miserable cunt before but now you are our shining light of positivity
He dropped ‘Optimistic’ from his username. The irony! 😁

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:02 pm
by Jock42
:lol: rest assured I'm still a miserable cunt.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:06 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win
My main concern regarding a BP is Harris at 13.
Wouldn't be surprised if the hookers score all the tries. Just so long as they get 4 of them, I'll be happy.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:38 pm
by TheNatalShark
A good, heavy points differential improving win may just inject some life for those flagging.

The reality is it is still entirely within Scotland's hands to qualify.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm
by Paddington Bear
Nice call Karl

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm
by C69
Should have let Tonga play on ffs

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm
by Biffer
Fuxake Blair

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm
by Big D
Great pace, lack of thought. Slide on it and it's 7.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm
by sockwithaticket
From what little I've seen of him in recent years, I've thought that Kinghorn looked like a great option at 15.
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:39 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win
Nah. Tonga are no great shakes
Yup. The presence of a few injury prone, 30-something former All Blacks hasn't suddenly made them a team to worry about.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:50 pm
by TheNatalShark
C69 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm Should have let Tonga play on ffs
It's a fair call to check from that distances. Literally whine about every fucking decision

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:52 pm
by Big D
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm From what little I've seen of him in recent years, I've thought that Kinghorn looked like a great option at 15.
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:39 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win
Nah. Tonga are no great shakes
Yup. The presence of a few injury prone, 30-something former All Blacks hasn't suddenly made them a team to worry about.
I think he's a winger at this level tbh. Not great under the high ball but pacey, strong and good when using the line as an "extra defender".

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:52 pm
by Biffer
Twenty five yard maul, nice!

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:53 pm
by Big D
Was sceptical about Dalziel as forwards coach but I think he has them drilled pretty well.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:54 pm
by Biffer
Big D wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:52 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm From what little I've seen of him in recent years, I've thought that Kinghorn looked like a great option at 15.
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:39 pm

Nah. Tonga are no great shakes
Yup. The presence of a few injury prone, 30-something former All Blacks hasn't suddenly made them a team to worry about.
I think he's a winger at this level tbh. Not great under the high ball but pacey, strong and good when using the line as an "extra defender".
Much more impactful coming into the line at pace from full back imo. Gives you more options to use him in every channel, and to counter attack like he just did. Wouldn’t have had that impact from wing.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:55 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:06 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:23 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 am Just a bit nervous about this. We should be able to achieve a bonus point but more likely a 23-15 type win
My main concern regarding a BP is Harris at 13.
Wouldn't be surprised if the hookers score all the tries. Just so long as they get 4 of them, I'll be happy.
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Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:58 pm
by Slick
Sooooo, what are the bonuses? 4 tries and more than 8 points?

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:01 pm
by Big D
Harris has to.give that sooner.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:01 pm
by C69
Big hits. Better keep them legal I can see some cards otherwise
Scots need to play with structure

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:04 pm
by Slick
Biffer wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:54 pm
Big D wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:52 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:49 pm From what little I've seen of him in recent years, I've thought that Kinghorn looked like a great option at 15.



Yup. The presence of a few injury prone, 30-something former All Blacks hasn't suddenly made them a team to worry about.
I think he's a winger at this level tbh. Not great under the high ball but pacey, strong and good when using the line as an "extra defender".
Much more impactful coming into the line at pace from full back imo. Gives you more options to use him in every channel, and to counter attack like he just did. Wouldn’t have had that impact from wing.
I agree he’s better from 15. His problem is that he is probably one of the most skilful and talented athletes in world rugby, just has too many brain farts where ever he plays. I hope a run at 15 as first choice let’s him get settled and cut them out a bit

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:04 pm
by Blackmac
Two shocking kicks in a row from Kinghorn.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:04 pm
by Biffer
Bit lucky to get that 50/22 I think.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:06 pm
by Slick
And there is an illustration

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:07 pm
by Paddington Bear
Tonga up for this, can see a worldy try at some point

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:07 pm
by TheNatalShark
Blackmac wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:04 pm Two shocking kicks in a row from Kinghorn.
The lack of ambition to run it back with only one chaser and he had Steyn in support.

Then the daft decision to truck it into midfield now when he had the backline lined up and getting a sore one for that judgement

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:08 pm
by Biffer
How is flipping someone 360 degrees not taking them past the horizontal?

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:09 pm
by sturginho
Kata is making Van Der Merwe his bitch here

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:09 pm
by PCPhil
Great try.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:09 pm
by C69
Lovely try. Scotland asleep and complaining to the ref

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:09 pm
by I like neeps
Balls.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:10 pm
by Insane_Homer
Biffer wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:08 pm How is flipping someone 360 degrees not taking them past the horizontal?
Because he landed on his feet.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:10 pm
by TheNatalShark
sturginho wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:09 pm Kata is making Van Der Merwe his bitch here
And Kinghorn, 2 on 1 and they both shirked out

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:11 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Duhan vd Merwe get some lessons here

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:12 pm
by PCPhil
But, can see a yellow or red for Tonga at some point. Trying the dominant hit a lot.

Re: RWC R2 Scotland v Tonga 24/9

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:13 pm
by Big D
That's a no arms tackle.