6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland

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Rhubarb & Custard
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The game could enforce the notion that you have to arrive, bind, and then play. because that can clearly go very wrong, whether in terms of injury or card, and yet the game is perfectly happy with players coming in like missiles
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:30 am The game could enforce the notion that you have to arrive, bind, and then play. because that can clearly go very wrong, whether in terms of injury or card, and yet the game is perfectly happy with players coming in like missiles
All fucking day this! Of course we'd have to bring back the notion that hands in a ruck is a penalty offence as well, but I'm all for that too.

Genge has his arm tucked as he flies into the ruck - no matter if he makes contact with his midriff that should be a stone cold yellow. That fact he makes contact with the head, secondary or not, it should be a red.

Furlong does deserve unmerciful slagging for his end of it though - expect better from him.
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As I commented at the time, POM was lucky his flopover yellow card offence wasn't in the old days, he'd have been rucked into oblivion.
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Well done England - selection made a huge difference! Mitchell at 9 sped the game up and played brilliantly. Lawrence was back to his best, Martin added aggression at 2nd row and giving Feyi-Waboso a roving remit helped add an edge in attack.

Disruption in Irish ranks due to injuries didnt help them but in the end their pack ended up well beaten and that lost them quick ball and their game.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:06 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:38 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:20 pm Seems very likely that the officials missed Freeman being in touch and a potential clear out that clipped Furlong high. Very unfortunate for Ireland.

It doesn't show up in the highlights but I thought during the game that Slade was tackled and then placed the ball, he then regathered it and popped it up to a team mate in support - this led up to Earl's try but was too many phases before the actual score to check.

These games are very tight and when you get the rub of the green it can make a big difference.
Yeah, that one was a bit odd
Watched it again this morning. Slade was tackled but not held. He dropped the ball as he landed and the ball rolled backwards momentarily before he grabbed it again and threw it up to another England player. However, the Ref was playing two penalty advantages to England at the time, so even if it had been spotted, it would still have resulted in a penalty to England.

So probably not material to the final result, especially as there was still 20 minutes to go.
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Ymx wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:33 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:32 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:23 pm

He’s on the England supporters tonic
Huh, could have sworn Ireland went back top when they beat France. Don’t think it materially changes my point - it’s a pretty mainstream view that Ireland are the best team in the world right now. Still largely none the wiser about what you’re angling at tbh
It’s ok PB. They can be in your head.

Destroyed number 1 team with only 14 on the pitch.

Roaaaaaaaaaar !!!
Phenomenally bizarre set of posts :thumbup:
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Congrats England fans....better team on the day won ....

The whole game it just seemed like Ireland was out of synch....

Ben Earl.... :thumbup:
Jamie George ....love watching that man run...

as for Ireland...expecting a big bounce back next week in Dublin...

Looking forward to getting over to Cork and Dublin later this week...
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Nigel says Ireland should've won!

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Moral victory secured then.

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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:24 am Nigel says Ireland should've won!

Not watching with sound, but I just saw a photo of a player who didn't have the ball, with a foot on the touch line?
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:26 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:24 am Nigel says Ireland should've won!

Not watching with sound, but I just saw a photo of a player who didn't have the ball, with a foot on the touch line?
He was in touch tbf.

It was multiple phases back though and Ireland had actually won the ball back and turned it over again prior to the try being scored. So currently outside the TMO remit.

Comes back to whether we want the TMOs to be checking the scoring move or a couple of minutes back in play for any potential infringement
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Fuck me, they'd already turned the ball back and still complaining?
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Homer added clickbait headline.

According to Nige it was adjudicated correctly from the try point of view.
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Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:24 am Fuck me, they'd already turned the ball back and still complaining?
As far as I can tell, you're the only one complaining here! Precious much?
Ymx wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:50 am Homer added clickbait headline.

According to Nige it was adjudicated correctly from the try point of view.
Indeed. I mean it is annoying they missed it, but its a game of rugby for fucks sake - shit gets missed all the time in practically every phase.
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PornDog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:48 am
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:24 am Fuck me, they'd already turned the ball back and still complaining?
As far as I can tell, you're the only one complaining here! Precious much?
Ymx wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:50 am Homer added clickbait headline.

According to Nige it was adjudicated correctly from the try point of view.
Indeed. I mean it is annoying they missed it, but its a game of rugby for fucks sake - shit gets missed all the time in practically every phase.
Yeah - there's always stuff like that - Such as Aki's turnover penalty (3 points) when he clearly put his hands on the ground ahead of the ball. Sometimes they get called, often they don't.
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I'm still fuming over a Mark Cueto boot in touch.
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Ovals wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:20 am
PornDog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:48 am
Raggs wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:24 am Fuck me, they'd already turned the ball back and still complaining?
As far as I can tell, you're the only one complaining here! Precious much?
Ymx wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:50 am Homer added clickbait headline.

According to Nige it was adjudicated correctly from the try point of view.
Indeed. I mean it is annoying they missed it, but its a game of rugby for fucks sake - shit gets missed all the time in practically every phase.
Yeah - there's always stuff like that - Such as Aki's turnover penalty (3 points) when he clearly put his hands on the ground ahead of the ball. Sometimes they get called, often they don't.
I like this one though, since the ball literally ends up in Irish hands after Freeman offloads, and they get a controlled box kick exit.

Just went through the match quickly, and the people complaining about the kick by Ireland at the end, trying to claim they shouldn't have kicked, are mad. The only time a team keeps possession through phases for over a minute (, and it was only just a minute, let alone 90 seconds) is the Earl try in the 60th, and that came with the Slade juggle and recover, and was far from clean. Expecting Ireland to try and play for 90 seconds in their own half, with a ref who'd have been all over going off feet, would have been madness. Could have expected Murray to make a few more yards on the clearance though.
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