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6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:00 am
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Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:15 am
by Jock42
Thankfully I'm working.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:04 am
by Tichtheid
Jock42 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:15 am Thankfully I'm working.

Do you need a hand?

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:17 am
by Begbie
We're getting pumped.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:24 am
by westport
Not looking forward to it. If it was a boxing match the ref would stop it after 5 minutes

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 pm
by Uncle fester
Reading posts above, in getting deja vu.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:04 pm
by Jim Lahey
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 pm Reading posts above, in getting deja vu.
We should be beating Scotland at home, regardless of what the Mockers think.

Scotland are a decent side and are certainly capable of winning tbf, but it would be a serious shitting of the bed from an Irish POV. Shades of 2019 with Schmidt's wheels coming off after beating NZ in 2018 come to mind in that scenario.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:09 pm
by Slick
Jim Lahey wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:04 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 pm Reading posts above, in getting deja vu.
We should be beating Scotland at home, regardless of what the Mockers think.

Scotland are a decent side and are certainly capable of winning tbf, but it would be a serious shitting of the bed from an Irish POV. Shades of 2019 with Schmidt's wheels coming off after beating NZ in 2018 come to mind in that scenario.
Yup. As I mentioned, I had a feeling England were going to do a job on you at the weekend, but they had the tools available if it all clicked. We can click away but we don't have the pack or physicality to cause an upset.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:17 pm
by tcc_dc
Jim Lahey wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:04 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 pm Reading posts above, in getting deja vu.
We should be beating Scotland at home, regardless of what the Mockers think.

Scotland are a decent side and are certainly capable of winning tbf, but it would be a serious shitting of the bed from an Irish POV. Shades of 2019 with Schmidt's wheels coming off after beating NZ in 2018 come to mind in that scenario.
Not worried....Andy will have the team ready to go and what is looking like a nice day in Dublin. Injuries seem to me minor.

And has been stated, this could be the last match for some in a green jersey...going to send them out 6N Champs...

Honestly, anything less than a 15 point win and I will be disappointed. No, I did not think they would be easy last week.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:27 pm
by Slick
tcc_dc wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:17 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:04 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 pm Reading posts above, in getting deja vu.
We should be beating Scotland at home, regardless of what the Mockers think.

Scotland are a decent side and are certainly capable of winning tbf, but it would be a serious shitting of the bed from an Irish POV. Shades of 2019 with Schmidt's wheels coming off after beating NZ in 2018 come to mind in that scenario.
Not worried....Andy will have the team ready to go and what is looking like a nice day in Dublin. Injuries seem to me minor.

And has been stated, this could be the last match for some in a green jersey...going to send them out 6N Champs...

Honestly, anything less than a 15 point win and I will be disappointed. No, I did not think they would be easy last week.
I tried to be nice. But I hate you lot.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm
by Blackmac
Slick wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:27 pm
tcc_dc wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:17 pm
Jim Lahey wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:04 pm

We should be beating Scotland at home, regardless of what the Mockers think.

Scotland are a decent side and are certainly capable of winning tbf, but it would be a serious shitting of the bed from an Irish POV. Shades of 2019 with Schmidt's wheels coming off after beating NZ in 2018 come to mind in that scenario.
Not worried....Andy will have the team ready to go and what is looking like a nice day in Dublin. Injuries seem to me minor.

And has been stated, this could be the last match for some in a green jersey...going to send them out 6N Champs...

Honestly, anything less than a 15 point win and I will be disappointed. No, I did not think they would be easy last week.
I tried to be nice. But I hate you lot.
Irish are the new Welsh.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:41 pm
by PornDog
Blackmac wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:27 pm
tcc_dc wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:17 pm

Not worried....Andy will have the team ready to go and what is looking like a nice day in Dublin. Injuries seem to me minor.

And has been stated, this could be the last match for some in a green jersey...going to send them out 6N Champs...

Honestly, anything less than a 15 point win and I will be disappointed. No, I did not think they would be easy last week.
I tried to be nice. But I hate you lot.
Irish are the new Welsh.
Now that's beyond the pale!

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:11 pm
by Uncle fester
Yep reported.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:34 am
by Sandstorm
Blackmac wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Irish are the new Welsh.
Eish!

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:19 am
by bogbunny
Blackmac wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm
Slick wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:27 pm
tcc_dc wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:17 pm

Not worried....Andy will have the team ready to go and what is looking like a nice day in Dublin. Injuries seem to me minor.

And has been stated, this could be the last match for some in a green jersey...going to send them out 6N Champs...

Honestly, anything less than a 15 point win and I will be disappointed. No, I did not think they would be easy last week.
I tried to be nice. But I hate you lot.
Irish are the new Welsh.
Wash your damn mouth out!!!!!!!

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:19 pm
by Tichtheid

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:37 pm
by Jock42
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:19 pm
McDowall deserves his 2nd cap, it's a pity it'll be in a 20 point drubbing.

I understand the 6-2 split last week less if he's gone 5-3 this week. I'm also uncomfortable with Kinghorn covering 10. If, like last week, neither Russell or Kinghorn feel like playing in the 2nd half there's fuck all to be done. The only positive is that Rowe and Redpath stand a slightly better chance than Healy getting on meaning that maybe (only maybe) 1 of the underperformed backs might be changed.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:00 pm
by Jock42
And this co-capt shite needs binned.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pm
by dkm57
Fortunately I've been booked on a Hedgerow/woodland foraging course at all afternoon.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:10 pm
by Tichtheid
dkm57 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pm Fortunately I've been booked on a Hedgerow/woodland foraging course at all afternoon.
Do you need a hand?

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:24 pm
by Jock42
:lol:

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:31 pm
by fishfoodie
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:10 pm
dkm57 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pm Fortunately I've been booked on a Hedgerow/woodland foraging course at all afternoon.
Do you need a hand?
You'll never get a meal for two out of one squashed hedgehog

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:32 pm
by fishfoodie
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Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:25 pm
by C T
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:32 pm Image
Errr... looks weak...?

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:34 pm
by fishfoodie
C T wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:32 pm Image
Errr... looks weak...?
Well we picked the empty shirt again that is Murray, so if we have more injuries in the backs we're stuffed again.

Being loyal to players is all very well & good, but I can't remember the last match he was in that I didn't groan when he came on, & it's not like there aren't other options; he can't even get picked in his province.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:03 pm
by dkm57
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:10 pm
dkm57 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:33 pm Fortunately I've been booked on a Hedgerow/woodland foraging course at all afternoon.
Do you need a hand?
Fully booked apparently, quite surprised.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:25 am
by Jim Lahey
No Ulster players.
Scotland by 13

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:48 am
by Sards
Scots have big hearts. England showed the reason why the Irish are not world beaters.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:24 am
by C T
A strange calm feeling ahead of this one, wrote it off as an utter man shaming months ago.

The only thing that will really annoy me is if our arse completely collapses again, which might well happen.

May have to get on the Toonie out train if that happens.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:41 am
by clydecloggie
I can take a 10 or 20 point loss if the game ebbs and flows and there are some decent spells in there with a good try or two and Ireland winning it because they are much more composed and efficient. Which they undisputedly are. Because they have better players throughout the team.

Another limp 30-something to 3 result and it's clear the Toonie ceiling has been reached and will not be broken through, with the same weaknesses apparent time and again. So yeah, in that case - let's change tack earfly in this WRC cycle since it's probably the last one in which we have a half-decent team for a good while until we sort out our youth development pathways.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:02 am
by Uncle fester
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:34 pm
C T wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:32 pm Image
Errr... looks weak...?
Well we picked the empty shirt again that is Murray, so if we have more injuries in the backs we're stuffed again.

Being loyal to players is all very well & good, but I can't remember the last match he was in that I didn't groan when he came on, & it's not like there aren't other options; he can't even get picked in his province.
Fine deciding Casey isn't the answer but it's odd that Blade has been written off completely.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 am
by SaintK
Ireland by 15

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:03 am
by PornDog
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:02 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:34 pm
C T wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:25 pm

Errr... looks weak...?
Well we picked the empty shirt again that is Murray, so if we have more injuries in the backs we're stuffed again.

Being loyal to players is all very well & good, but I can't remember the last match he was in that I didn't groan when he came on, & it's not like there aren't other options; he can't even get picked in his province.
Fine deciding Casey isn't the answer but it's odd that Blade has been written off completely.
I wouldn't be advocating for either Cooney or Doak at the moment, but even so there are literally four other scrum halfs I'd have in the Irish squad ahead of Murray. If Marmion hadn't gone to Bristol it would be 5.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:41 pm
by Uncle fester
Both Cooney and Doak are similar style 9's to Murray and the shitshow at Ulster isn't doing them any favours.

In Farrell we trust but he does seem to have a predilection for sentimentality.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:23 pm
by Plim
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 amIreland by 15
Until ~2023 I’d have taken that as the starting point in a spread. I wouldn’t now.

Scotland are a decent side. Bit flakey, but full of grunt and running.

Ireland look to be on the slide - a shallow slope downwards, sure, but the decline has begun. They’ll still win. But the WC results and a fired-up England have shown that Ireland are well beatable.

Ireland by 5. With a lot of questions to be asked about Ireland’s next steps.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:34 pm
by Slick
Plim wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:23 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 amIreland by 15
Until ~2023 I’d have taken that as the starting point in a spread. I wouldn’t now.

Scotland are a decent side. Bit flakey, but full of grunt and running.

Ireland look to be on the slide - a shallow slope downwards, sure, but the decline has begun. They’ll still win. But the WC results and a fired-up England have shown that Ireland are well beatable.

Ireland by 5. With a lot of questions to be asked about Ireland’s next steps.
I'd take this!

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:43 am
by petej
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 amIreland by 15
Ireland are like the NZ in the Dan Carter era or England 00-03 so I expect a minimum 20 point win. Anything less will be a disappointing for the champions elect. Italy beat Scotland and Ireland nilled italy. Ireland 30-Scotland 0

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:24 am
by fishfoodie
petej wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:43 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 amIreland by 15
Ireland are like the NZ in the Dan Carter era or England 00-03 so I expect a minimum 20 point win. Anything less will be a disappointing for the champions elect. Italy beat Scotland and Ireland nilled italy. Ireland 30-Scotland 0
If only it worked like this !


... we'd be World Champions .... sniff

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:29 am
by Big D
It is going to be a skelping.

Re: 6 Nations round 5 - Ireland v Scotland

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:43 am
by Uncle fester
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:24 am
petej wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:43 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 amIreland by 15
Ireland are like the NZ in the Dan Carter era or England 00-03 so I expect a minimum 20 point win. Anything less will be a disappointing for the champions elect. Italy beat Scotland and Ireland nilled italy. Ireland 30-Scotland 0
If only it worked like this !


... we'd be World Champions .... sniff
We're more like pre-2003 England (how many grand slams did they blow?), a damn good team but not quite there in terms of dealing with everything that comes their way.