The Rugby Championship - Round 3
Saturday, 31st August - Sunday, 1st September
Curtain Raiser
South Africa vs New Zealand
Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
Local: 5pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
NZ: 3am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Aus: 1am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Arg: 12pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ire)
ARs: Matt Carley (Eng) & Jordan Way (Aus)
TMO: Brian McNiece (Ire)
Main Event
Argentina vs Australia
Estadio Jorge Hirschi, Buenos Aires
Local: 7pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
Aus: 8am, Sun' 1 Sep.
NZ: 10am, Sun' 1 Sep.
SA: 12am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Referee: James Doleman (NZ)
ARs: Ben O’Keeffe (NZ) & Pierre Brousset (Fra)
TMO: Glenn Newman (NZ)
Curtain Raiser
South Africa vs New Zealand
Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
Local: 5pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
NZ: 3am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Aus: 1am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Arg: 12pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ire)
ARs: Matt Carley (Eng) & Jordan Way (Aus)
TMO: Brian McNiece (Ire)
Main Event
Argentina vs Australia
Estadio Jorge Hirschi, Buenos Aires
Local: 7pm, Sat' 31 Aug.
Aus: 8am, Sun' 1 Sep.
NZ: 10am, Sun' 1 Sep.
SA: 12am, Sun' 1 Sep.
Referee: James Doleman (NZ)
ARs: Ben O’Keeffe (NZ) & Pierre Brousset (Fra)
TMO: Glenn Newman (NZ)
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Round 3 – Sat 31 Aug 2024
South Africa v New Zealand
Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ire)
ARs: Matt Carley (Eng) & Jordan Way (Aus)
TMO: Brian McNiece (Ire)
Argentina v Australia
Estadio Jorge Hirschi, Buenos Aires
Referee: James Doleman (NZ)
ARs: Ben O’Keeffe (NZ) & Pierre Brousset (Fra)
TMO: Glenn Newman (NZ)
South Africa v New Zealand
Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ire)
ARs: Matt Carley (Eng) & Jordan Way (Aus)
TMO: Brian McNiece (Ire)
Argentina v Australia
Estadio Jorge Hirschi, Buenos Aires
Referee: James Doleman (NZ)
ARs: Ben O’Keeffe (NZ) & Pierre Brousset (Fra)
TMO: Glenn Newman (NZ)
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Agreed, are Australia as bad as they look, or are the Bokke clearly the outstanding team currentlyOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:17 pmRound 3 will tell us a lot of where we are at the moment.
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Any SA URC franchise will dominate the Wallaby scrum and lineout. That has been always their worry. That's rugby basic rule.
Uncontested scrums are your friendOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:05 amAny SA URC franchise will dominate the Wallaby scrum and lineout. That has been always their worry. That's rugby basic rule.
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Ireland last month already showed us where we are. We are getting carried away by two wins against a shambolic australian team
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I asked you nicely but obvious you have a thick skin.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:52 amUncontested scrums are your friendOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:05 amAny SA URC franchise will dominate the Wallaby scrum and lineout. That has been always their worry. That's rugby basic rule.
100 percent.boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:31 am Ireland last month already showed us where we are. We are getting carried away by two wins against a shambolic australian team
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And that is the problem, the boks and the favourite tag do not play well together. I am not sure why the boks cannot motivate themselves the same way when they are favourites as they would when they have their backs against the wall. Maybe Rassie needs to find a good sport psychologist for the team.
And when that favourite tag goes together with an away trip, (many examples of past EOYT games) it can get even worse. That is where the All Blacks are generally really good. The boks need to find a way to convert the motivation they get from playing pressure knockout games in the WC to other games where they are the favourites to win. It is very frustrating that they can get themselves motivated for 1 month of pressure rugby but find it difficult for the 4 years in between.
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Who's getting carried away? Do you need a hug, seems like you need one.boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:31 am Ireland last month already showed us where we are. We are getting carried away by two wins against a shambolic australian team
Accept his offer Boerie. He gives the bestest hugs. It's those manboobsLoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:49 pmWho's getting carried away? Do you need a hug, seems like you need one.boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:31 am Ireland last month already showed us where we are. We are getting carried away by two wins against a shambolic australian team
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https://sarugby.co.za/news-features/art ... and-tests/
Springbok squad for the New Zealand leg of the Castle Lager Rugby Championship:
Props: Thomas du Toit (Bath), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls).
Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Locks: Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), RG Snyman (Leinster), Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier).
Loose forwards: Ben-Jason Dixon (DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (captain, Racing 92), Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).
Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Flyhalves: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers).
Centres: Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles).
Outside backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath), Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls).
Springbok squad for the New Zealand leg of the Castle Lager Rugby Championship:
Props: Thomas du Toit (Bath), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls).
Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Locks: Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), RG Snyman (Leinster), Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier).
Loose forwards: Ben-Jason Dixon (DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (captain, Racing 92), Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).
Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Flyhalves: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers).
Centres: Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles).
Outside backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath), Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls).
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Twat.Sards wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:45 pmAccept his offer Boerie. He gives the bestest hugs. It's those manboobsLoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:49 pmWho's getting carried away? Do you need a hug, seems like you need one.boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:31 am Ireland last month already showed us where we are. We are getting carried away by two wins against a shambolic australian team
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:07 pm https://sarugby.co.za/news-features/art ... and-tests/
Springbok squad for the New Zealand leg of the Castle Lager Rugby Championship:
Props: Thomas du Toit (Bath), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls).
Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Locks: Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), RG Snyman (Leinster), Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier).
Loose forwards: Ben-Jason Dixon (DHL Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (captain, Racing 92), Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).
Scrumhalves: Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks).
Flyhalves: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers), Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers).
Centres: Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles).
Outside backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls), Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath), Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Hollywoodbets Sharks), Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls).
Locks and 9s are weak. The rest is great.
Specially at altitude On the bright side I am interested to see how Razor develops this team, not expecting a great year, but at least retaining the Bledisloe would be cool It looks like he already has the rush defense covered, something Fozzie failed to do.
Springboks squad for the 2 ABs tests:
Outside backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Aphelele Fassi (Sharks), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath), Willie le Roux (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), Canan Moodie (Bulls).
Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Sharks), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles).
First five-eighths: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (Stormers), Manie Libbok (Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers).
Halfbacks: Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Sharks).
Loose forwards: Ben-Jason Dixon (Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (captain, Racing 92), Elrigh Louw (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).
Locks: Eben Etzebeth (Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Bulls), RG Snyman (Leinster), Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier).
Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Sharks).
Props: Thomas du Toit (Bath), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Sharks), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Ox Nche (Sharks), Gerhard Steenekamp (Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Bulls).
The midfield and outside backs are gonna cut us to ribbons.
Outside backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Aphelele Fassi (Sharks), Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath), Willie le Roux (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), Canan Moodie (Bulls).
Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Sharks), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles).
First five-eighths: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (Stormers), Manie Libbok (Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers).
Halfbacks: Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Sharks).
Loose forwards: Ben-Jason Dixon (Stormers), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (captain, Racing 92), Elrigh Louw (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers).
Locks: Eben Etzebeth (Sharks), Salmaan Moerat (Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Bulls), RG Snyman (Leinster), Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg (Montpellier).
Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Sharks).
Props: Thomas du Toit (Bath), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Sharks), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Ox Nche (Sharks), Gerhard Steenekamp (Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Bulls).
The midfield and outside backs are gonna cut us to ribbons.
All Blacks squad for the 2 tests in SA:
Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Codie Taylor, George Bell
Props: Ethan De Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Pasilio Tosi, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Tamaiti Williams
Locks: Scott Barrett (captain), Sam Darry, Josh Lord, Tupou Vaa’i
Loose forwards: Ethan Blackadder, Sam Cane, Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papali’i, Ardie Savea (vice-captain), Wallace Sititi
Halfbacks: Noah Hotham, TJ Perenara, Cortez Ratima
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett (vice-captain), David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown, Billy Proctor
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Ruben Love, Harry Plummer, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
Patrick Tiupulotu and Stephen Perofeta are both injured. Good to see that Ethan de Groot's neck has come right and he's fit to travel, and that Harry Plummer's been formally included in the squad (although no idea why he's listed in the outside backs).
Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Codie Taylor, George Bell
Props: Ethan De Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Pasilio Tosi, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Tamaiti Williams
Locks: Scott Barrett (captain), Sam Darry, Josh Lord, Tupou Vaa’i
Loose forwards: Ethan Blackadder, Sam Cane, Samipeni Finau, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papali’i, Ardie Savea (vice-captain), Wallace Sititi
Halfbacks: Noah Hotham, TJ Perenara, Cortez Ratima
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett (vice-captain), David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown, Billy Proctor
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke, Will Jordan, Ruben Love, Harry Plummer, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
Patrick Tiupulotu and Stephen Perofeta are both injured. Good to see that Ethan de Groot's neck has come right and he's fit to travel, and that Harry Plummer's been formally included in the squad (although no idea why he's listed in the outside backs).
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I'll post the relevant article on the All Blacks thread, but Leon MacDonald has quit his assistant coaching role.
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I genuinely fear for the All Blacks against Sefrica. We were shambolic against the Argies in the first and ok for about 50 minutes in the second. We have no attack structure, Mackenzie is all over the place and his kicking out of hand is very poor. We’re not going to get within 35 points of them. It’s potentially a 50+ point total against us.
Nah, the All Blacks usually manage to dig deep and find a their mojo when playing the Boks.ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:29 am I genuinely fear for the All Blacks against Sefrica. We were shambolic against the Argies in the first and ok for about 50 minutes in the second. We have no attack structure, Mackenzie is all over the place and his kicking out of hand is very poor. We’re not going to get within 35 points of them. It’s potentially a 50+ point total against us.
I'd be very surprised if it doesn't end 1-1 with two close matches. Less than 10-points winning margin in both matches.
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This All Blacks underdog tag is not a good sign. The mockers dont like it.
Tony Brown has made a huge difference to our attack.ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:29 am I genuinely fear for the All Blacks against Sefrica. We were shambolic against the Argies in the first and ok for about 50 minutes in the second. We have no attack structure, Mackenzie is all over the place and his kicking out of hand is very poor. We’re not going to get within 35 points of them. It’s potentially a 50+ point total against us.
Great to have a New Zealander in board
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Following Tony Brown to Rassie?Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:08 am I'll post the relevant article on the All Blacks thread, but Leon MacDonald has quit his assistant coaching role.
Don't make me tell you again who was first to summit Everest!
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Look like Moerat to start against the All Blacks. Eben and RG out.
Moerat is out, won't playOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:17 pm Look like Moerat to start against the All Blacks. Eben and RG out.
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Thats a big loss. All Blacks now big favorites.Calculon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:12 amMoerat is out, won't playOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:17 pm Look like Moerat to start against the All Blacks. Eben and RG out.