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I think this merits its own thread.

After Jackson/Olding and Hogg, we have this disgrace, which at least has seen some proper sentencing
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2024/12/13/pro ... 390452.php

Good to see them named too.

I agree, but I not sure the thread name is very good. Shouldn't it read men in general and their attitude to women?

Dan54 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:37 pm I agree, but I not sure the thread name is very good. Shouldn't it read men in general and their attitude to women?

+1

My side is certainly not lily-white in this area. In fact, they were dog-shit but thankfully they have improved a lot of late.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/310 ... scared-her

Having the Chiefs Manawa side around them a lot has been very beneficial.

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:49 pm

Dan54 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:37 pm I agree, but I not sure the thread name is very good. Shouldn't it read men in general and their attitude to women?

+1

This is a rugby board. The topic deserves respect and binging it home to ‘our code’ is a good way to bring that home.

Dan54 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:37 pm I agree, but I not sure the thread name is very good. Shouldn't it read men in general and their attitude to women?

I understand that but there is an oft peddled view that rugby somehow has better values than, say, football.

{EDIT} Guy was more eloquent than I ^

The young guys need to be made watch this over and over.


I think part of the problem is that they come out of underage rugby with their egos inflated like a balloon so they think they can do whatever like like.

Let's not forget the self proclaimed "Archbishop of Banterbury" who would probably be seeing jail time if he did it now.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/25/im-celeb ... -11214981/

C69 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:25 am Let's not forget the self proclaimed "Archbishop of Banterbury" who would probably be seeing jail time if he did it now.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/25/im-celeb ... -11214981/

Didn’t something similar happen with topsy Ojo and Mike brown on an England tour to New Zealand ?

Hask is someone who even I find massively unfunny and repetitive, and I love unfunny repetitive running jokes that are so shit they become good. Self dared myself to follow his feed for a month to see if I could appreciate his bantz - I lasted about 4 days before I deleted the cunt.

C69 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:25 am Let's not forget the self proclaimed "Archbishop of Banterbury" who would probably be seeing jail time if he did it now.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/25/im-celeb ... -11214981/

It was just as illegal back then, how did he get away with it??

Young men, huge egos, an alpha culture, high testosterone, plenty of free time and earning large amounts of money. In many ways it’s remarkable there aren’t more incidents

C69 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:25 am Let's not forget the self proclaimed "Archbishop of Banterbury" who would probably be seeing jail time if he did it now.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/25/im-celeb ... -11214981/

There’s little that annoys me more than people who don’t realise how dim and tedious they really are.
I think I managed 1 maybe 1 or 1 1/2 of a GBR thingycast before I got annoyed with that thick cvnt.

sturginho wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:42 am

C69 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:25 am Let's not forget the self proclaimed "Archbishop of Banterbury" who would probably be seeing jail time if he did it now.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/25/im-celeb ... -11214981/

It was just as illegal back then, how did he get away with it??

I'd relay a story about a player's name which might sound like Generally Gutless but I don't want to get ASMO into trouble.

Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

It’s hard to say but surely his issues are driven by CTE?

Alfie

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

Another who thinks women are objects.

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

I suppose this isn’t the thread to demand a Rule 1?

Slick wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:13 am

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

I suppose this isn’t the thread to demand a Rule 1?

The clue is in the “ .NZ “

Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:10 am

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

It’s hard to say but surely his issues are driven by CTE?

Or maybe by his drinking, or maybe because a woman he thought he should “have” didn’t want anything to do with him anymore. Whatever the reason, absolute scumbag behavior and lucky to get away with it with little more than a slap on the wrist

Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:10 am

Achahoish wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:04 pm Carl Hayman being a dirt bag

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3605131 ... hotographs

It’s hard to say but surely his issues are driven by CTE?

There were abuse allegations re his ex-wife as well, weren't there?

After a bunch of incidents in the James Small, James Dalton era of Springboks I'm quite happy with the character of the current crop of Boks when it comes to this issue.

In a country where gender-based violence is rife, and a lot of the Bok players have been open about witnessing the physical abuse of their mothers as children, it's great that they are using their platform and public profiles to actively campaign against it. Players like Mapimpi and Syia leading the charge.

I hope I don't jinx it by posting this, but in general, the current crop of Boks look like a bunch of solid men and I hope they can maintain this attitude within the team culture. I suspect a large part of it might have to do with the fact that Rassie and Nienaber also went to great lengths to make wives, girlfriends and the players' children part of the Bok's greater setup.