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372 new cases of COVID-19 in Victoria today and 14 deaths.

Not great numbers, but the overall trend is downward.

Interestingly, it seems the rumour that this 2nd wave in Victoria was started by a security guard having sex with quarantined women in hotels was false. It was more News Ltd fiction designed solely to bring down a democratically elected Victorian State govt.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 am 372 new cases of COVID-19 in Victoria today and 14 deaths.

Not great numbers, but the overall trend is downward.

Interestingly, it seems the rumour that this 2nd wave in Victoria was started by a security guard having sex with quarantined women in hotels was false. It was more News Ltd fiction designed solely to bring down a democratically elected Victorian State govt.

Yes apparently it was a hotel employee, possibly someone working the front desk. Certainly a high risk occupation under the circumstances no matter who was performing the role.

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 am

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 am 372 new cases of COVID-19 in Victoria today and 14 deaths.

Not great numbers, but the overall trend is downward.

Interestingly, it seems the rumour that this 2nd wave in Victoria was started by a security guard having sex with quarantined women in hotels was false. It was more News Ltd fiction designed solely to bring down a democratically elected Victorian State govt.

Yes apparently it was a hotel employee, possibly someone working the front desk. Certainly a high risk occupation under the circumstances no matter who was performing the role.

A night manager of the hotel people were staying in. Given over a thousand front-line doctors and nurses in Victoria have been infected by Covid, despite having access to PPE, it is no wonder that relatively untrained hospitality staff would contract this virus.

303 new infections overnight and 4 deaths.

The downward curve in Victoria continues. It seems that Level 4 is having a positive impact in Melb.

I'm finding the NSW figures very interesting. They had a minor outbreak a few weeks ago, that involved community transmission and mystery cases with no known source, but seem to have controlled it with zero restrictions. What are they doing that nowhere else in the world is doing?

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:07 am I'm finding the NSW figures very interesting. They had a minor outbreak a few weeks ago, that involved community transmission and mystery cases with no known source, but seem to have controlled it with zero restrictions. What are they doing that nowhere else in the world is doing?

They closed various places down and mask-wearing has become more prominent as far as I have seen. Large-scale gatherings are still banned. I've avoided stopping anywhere in Liverpool ever since those outbreaks.

Auckman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:49 am

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:07 am I'm finding the NSW figures very interesting. They had a minor outbreak a few weeks ago, that involved community transmission and mystery cases with no known source, but seem to have controlled it with zero restrictions. What are they doing that nowhere else in the world is doing?

They closed various places down and mask-wearing has become more prominent as far as I have seen. Large-scale gatherings are still banned. I've avoided stopping anywhere in Liverpool ever since those outbreaks.

Outbreak or not, that's sound advice.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 am 372 new cases of COVID-19 in Victoria today and 14 deaths.

Not great numbers, but the overall trend is downward.

Interestingly, it seems the rumour that this 2nd wave in Victoria was started by a security guard having sex with quarantined women in hotels was false. It was more News Ltd fiction designed solely to bring down a democratically elected Victorian State govt.

Typical, the people (guards) least able to represent themselves gets the blame. Rydges hotels conveniently hid the fact that it was a hotel manager that was patient zero.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:51 am Typical, the people (guards) least able to represent themselves gets the blame. Rydges hotels conveniently hid the fact that it was a hotel manager that was patient zero.

So you're saying that Rydges should have independently released medical information about on of its employees to the Australian media? If I did that about one of my school staff I'd be asked to tender my resignation within minutes for a gross breach of privacy.

So another day, another botched Federal stimulus. In June PM Morrison announced 'Home Builder'. This program was going to support the construction industry by kick starting projects with $25,000 grants to home owners to support renovations and new builds. Yet we are now in mid August, there have been just 250 applications nationally, and not a single cent has been spent on this program. Is this the worst stimulus in the history of stimulus's?

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:58 am

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:51 am Typical, the people (guards) least able to represent themselves gets the blame. Rydges hotels conveniently hid the fact that it was a hotel manager that was patient zero.

So you're saying that Rydges should have independently released medical information about on of its employees to the Australian media? If I did that about one of my school staff I'd be asked to tender my resignation within minutes for a gross breach of privacy.

Yes, I'm saying they should've corrected the media reports as a duty of care to the guards and the community as a whole. Not personal details but at least dispel the rumours blaming the guards. The community backlash against the guards was vicious and could cause mental health issue.

Reminds me of the time some Aussie radio jocks called the hospital the Queen was admitted to pretending to be from the palace. The nurse who answered it admitted the Queen was there, she unknowningly breached confidentiality protocol s. The public backlash was vicious and she committed suicide.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:30 am Yes, I'm saying they should've corrected the media reports as a duty of care to the guards and the community as a whole. Not personal details but at least dispel the rumours blaming the guards. The community backlash against the guards was vicious and could cause mental health issue.

Are you on the kava again? How would Rydges have possibly known who was infected first? A stack of people became sick within a 24 hour period and it's only through scientific genome tracing that they've allegedly been able to discover who was patient 0.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:30 am Reminds me of the time some Aussie radio jocks called the hospital the Queen was admitted to pretending to be from the palace. The nurse who answered it admitted the Queen was there, she unknowningly breached confidentiality protocol s. The public backlash was vicious and she committed suicide.

So Rydges not releasing any personal medical information to the media reminds you of when someone else did release personal medical info to the media?

They knew and allowed the public backlash to fall on the security guards rather than take responsibility. It's not their fault either but kept quiet. It sounds like the hotel manager was the one having sex with travellers.

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CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:09 am They knew and allowed the public backlash to fall on the security guards rather than take responsibility. It's not their fault either but kept quiet. It sounds like the hotel manager was the one having sex with travellers.

You're talking nonsense now. The security guard rumour was spread by News Ltd outlets, and Rydges didn't have the information, or the legal right, to name the manager. No-one was having sex with anyone. The hotel manager caught the infection because that's what happens when you quarantine infectious people in general society. The disease spreads. In the same way over 1000 nurses and doctors in Victoria have contracted covid-19 despite using PPE in hospitals.

Good figures coming out of QLD still, although I read today that Peter Dutton is unhappy with Palaszczuk's border closure with NSW. Not sure how QLD dodged a bullet with those two girls who lied about going to Melbourne and came back to QLD with covid-19. It seems that despite the, being very socially active there was little/no community transmission as a result.

Regardless, Rydges should've dispelled the rumours, it's a responsible organisation would do. After all no one would blame them for the spread. They were happy bystanders whilst the guards were lynched in public. I blame News too.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:28 am Good figures coming out of QLD still, although I read today that Peter Dutton is unhappy with Palaszczuk's border closure with NSW. Not sure how QLD dodged a bullet with those two girls who lied about going to Melbourne and came back to QLD with covid-19. It seems that despite the, being very socially active there was little/no community transmission as a result.

Covid is a small price to pay to keep Qld'ers out.

Good to see the infection numbers continue to decline in Victoria today, although the deaths are obviously very worrying.

Deaths are a lag indicator so that will start to go down too. With infections trending down things look to be getting back under more control.

Do they announce the source of infections - i.e are the new cases close contacts or are they still identifying community spread?

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:05 am Deaths are a lag indicator so that will start to go down too. With infections trending down things look to be getting back under more control.

Do they announce the source of infections - i.e are the new cases close contacts or are they still identifying community spread?

There is more detailed information made available. The image posted above is just a very general summary of the overall cases.

Things still looking sunny in QLD, although no-one up here is being complacent.

Very good numbers coming out of NSW today as well;



Overall it seems like as a country we are in a better place than we were 3 weeks ago.

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:05 am Deaths are a lag indicator so that will start to go down too. With infections trending down things look to be getting back under more control.

Do they announce the source of infections - i.e are the new cases close contacts or are they still identifying community spread?

Perhaps it will go up before it goes down though.

Good to see the numbers generally trending down.

I'm hoping we see a significant dive in the coming days such that we have a good chance of easing restrictions from 13 September.

Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:07 am Good to see the numbers generally trending down.

I'm hoping we see a significant dive in the coming days such that we have a good chance of easing restrictions from 13 September.

Yes the general trend is very pleasing. I have two brothers and four nieces/nephews living in Melbourne, so I am somewhat invested in the challenge the city and state face. I am glad to see that after all the sacrifices that Melburnians have made we are starting to see some positive data emerge.

Interesting to see that the unintended benefit of social distancing, more stringent hygiene and regular handwashing has been a huge reduction in the impact of the common cold. There has been an 84% decrease in the incidence of the flu in QLD this year, which will no doubt mean many lives have been saved.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:41 am

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:05 am Deaths are a lag indicator so that will start to go down too. With infections trending down things look to be getting back under more control.

Do they announce the source of infections - i.e are the new cases close contacts or are they still identifying community spread?

Perhaps it will go up before it goes down though.

Unlikely in Victoria while restrictions remain.

The blue has peaked for now:

Interesting to read that 80% of the active cases in NZ are in the Pacific Islander community

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12356818

This aligns with the situation in Melbourne, where migrant families have been disproportionally impacted.

Today's numbers coming out of Melbourne. Not good but the overall infection rate is still trending downward.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:59 pm Today's numbers coming out of Melbourne. Not good but the overall infection rate is still trending downward.

Yeah the case numbers are gradually coming down but the deaths figure is the highest yet. Probably a lag from when cases were in the 600-700 range.

Yes definitely lag time. Some of today's deaths may have been in ICU for weeks. Fewer cases means hopefully fewer deaths into the future. Daily new infections were over 700 a few weeks ago, so today's figure is obviously much better than that.

Sad to see a politician reverting to the story about the spread being due to a positive quarantiner having sex with a visiting female who broke in.

Probably did it while bent over a wine-box and eating a plate of scampi; whilst watching the races

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:11 pm Interesting to read that 80% of the active cases in NZ are in the Pacific Islander community

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12356818

This aligns with the situation in Melbourne, where migrant families have been disproportionally impacted.

Not adhering to lockdown?

Enzedder wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:57 am Sad to see a politician reverting to the story about the spread being due to a positive quarantiner having sex with a visiting female who broke in.

Probably did it while bent over a wine-box and eating a plate of scampi; whilst watching the races

I saw thst movie too!

The worrying thing is the rate of severe bouts of Covid ending in death.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:55 am

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:11 pm Interesting to read that 80% of the active cases in NZ are in the Pacific Islander community

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12356818

This aligns with the situation in Melbourne, where migrant families have been disproportionally impacted.

Not adhering to lockdown?

What lockdown should that family in Auckland have been adhering to? NZ was on Level 1.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:23 am

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:55 am

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:11 pm Interesting to read that 80% of the active cases in NZ are in the Pacific Islander community

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12356818

This aligns with the situation in Melbourne, where migrant families have been disproportionally impacted.

Not adhering to lockdown?

What lockdown should that family in Auckland have been adhering to? NZ was on Level 1.

Was referring to Melbourne

222 new cases of covid-19 in Victoria today and 17 new deaths.

The infections figure is the lowest in Victoria in a month. The deaths data will probably get worse before it gets better.