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Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:25 am
by Slick
Could get very interesting there.

Government have started distancing themselves from the soldiers, protests starting in other towns over corruption and brutality. Could really go off.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:39 am
by assfly
It's nuts. 12 dead so far.

It must be a tinderbox there at the moment. A population fed up with corruption, the situation with Covid and an indirect connection tothe global BLM movement (or rather the anti police brutality component of it).

Very worrying in a country with a population of over 200 million.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:54 am
by Slick
Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am
by OomStruisbaai
Was hoping to go to Lagos again.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:29 am
by MungoMan
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:54 am Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.
It strikes me as a country with the vitality to be a major player if it can take the next step.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:05 pm
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Nigeria!

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 pm
by Slick
MungoMan wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:29 am
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:54 am Yup and a very young population who are fed up with the "Big Man" corruption and more interested in being taken seriously in global business. A lot have just had enough and can see what a succesful country it could be without these cunts.
It strikes me as a country with the vitality to be a major player if it can take the next step.
It absolutely is. There is some amazing innovation coming out of Nigeria across sectors and, as I said above, a younger generation that wants to be part of the global market. Problem is, and I'm as guilty of this as anyone, as soon as you see Nigeria it's automatically assumed to be not worth the trouble. Because it more often than not, it isn't.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:37 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Lagos and Nigerian is not your usual economic market. Everything is on the street and is mostly cash.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm
by stemoc
shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:49 pm
by average joe
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Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:55 pm
by assfly
That must be a whoosh.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 pm
by Slick
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:55 pm That must be a whoosh.
Got to be...

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:59 pm
by Big Nipper
Must...... not..... have....... a..... nibble......


:think:

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm
by Fangle
Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.

As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:48 pm
by Ted.
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:55 pm That must be a whoosh.
Got to be...
It's probably a genuinely held belief.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pm
by Ted.
Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.

As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
Do ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:02 pm
by Jock42
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:25 am Could get very interesting there.

Government have started distancing themselves from the soldiers, protests starting in other towns over corruption and brutality. Could really go off.
I can see some mission creep arising from the first lot of guys to go out to Mali to getting involved in the Sahel area in a bigger way.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:13 pm
by Fangle
Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pm
Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.

As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
Do ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?
Immigrants nearly always are more committed to hard work, wherever they come from. I found it to be so in South Africa as well, where the Zimbabweans were keener than the local population. And here as well with the much maligned Mexicans really perform. But not only at the labouring level, but also at research if you look at how many Nobel prizes are awarded to immigrants to the States.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 pm
by Rinkals
Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pm
Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.

As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
Do ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?
I've always maintained that, if they put as much effort into legitimate business as they seem to put into divers nefarious ventures and scams, they'd be the most successful country on earth.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm
by Ymx
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 pm
assfly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:55 pm That must be a whoosh.
Got to be...
I’d agree except
1. He went quiet
2. He’s said such comments about the US before.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:41 pm
by Uncle fester
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:25 am Could get very interesting there.

Government have started distancing themselves from the soldiers, protests starting in other towns over corruption and brutality. Could really go off.
Savage opportunity for some creative scams.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:33 pm
by stemoc
wow sarcasm is lost on a few here...but alas i have to explain everything, nearly every country with huge oil deposits end up war torn because of the US (greed), last year they tried to do the same with Venezuela and Iran (but failed) , i wont be surprised if the US suddenly "peaks" interest in Nigeria in coming days..just yesterday 2 of the 10 largest oil exporters somehow became US enemy number 1 for "tempering' with the electoral system there..and now a possible civil war in another country listed as a top 10 exporters of oil.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:23 am
by assfly
stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:33 pm wow sarcasm is lost on a few here...but alas i have to explain everything, nearly every country with huge oil deposits end up war torn because of the US (greed), last year they tried to do the same with Venezuela and Iran (but failed) , i wont be surprised if the US suddenly "peaks" interest in Nigeria in coming days..just yesterday 2 of the 10 largest oil exporters somehow became US enemy number 1 for "tempering' with the electoral system there..and now a possible civil war in another country listed as a top 10 exporters of oil.
If their interest was going to peak, it would have already. Plus, Trump's foreign policy has been to completely ignore Africa as a whole.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am
by Lemoentjie
stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
It does have oil you fokken dumb poes

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.

Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.

Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:13 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Lemoentjie wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am
stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
It does have oil you fokken dumb poes
They are one of the top oil exporters to the US.

Delta area provides oil which the get from the same depths where we get water.


Lagos is on a sea of water. Don't need pipelines, each block got their own water borehole.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:28 pm
by Lobby
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:13 pm
Lemoentjie wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:34 am
stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 pm shame Nigeria doesn't have oil or the US would have send an army by now to 'liberate' them..
It does have oil you fokken dumb poes
They are one of the top oil exporters to the US.

Delta area provides oil which the get from the same depths where we get water.


Lagos is on a sea of water. Don't need pipelines, each block got their own water borehole.
It’s the fifth largest producer of oil in the World, and all the big oil companies (Shell, Chevron, Exxon-Mobil etc) are already heavily involved in Nigeria.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:36 pm
by assfly
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 pm Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.

Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.

Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
Abuja is completely different. Amazingly well-planned city that reminds me of parts of Joburg.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:55 pm
by Ali Cadoo
assfly wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:23 am
If their interest was going to peak, it would have already. Plus, Trump's foreign policy has been to completely ignore Africa as a shit-whole.
FTFY

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:31 pm
by Ghost-Of-Nepia
Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:05 pm Nigeria!
Please!

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 am
by assfly
I see that yesterday a few Nigerians became aquainted with the UK's Special Boat Services.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:14 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 am I see that yesterday a few Nigerians became aquainted with the UK's Special Boat Services.
What happened?

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:40 am
by Rinkals
Chilli wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:14 am
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 am I see that yesterday a few Nigerians became aquainted with the UK's Special Boat Services.
What happened?
I'm surmising that he's referring to this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-54687379

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:37 am
by Biffer
assfly wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:36 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 pm Nigerians grew up tough and work hard to survive as kids.

Some suburbs in Lagos make SA townships look like classy places.

Lagos traffic is horrific, takes two hours to travel 30 kms, some workers spend 6 hours traveling to work.
Abuja is completely different. Amazingly well-planned city that reminds me of parts of Joburg.
So car jacking is a constant risk then?

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:48 am
by assfly
Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:37 am So car jacking is a constant risk then?
No, not from my experience. Have you been to either cities?

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:54 am
by Bimbowomxn
Rinkals wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:29 pm
Ted. wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:50 pm
Fangle wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm Nigerians who come to the USA seem to do very well.

As an aside they are champs at scrabble, of all things.
Do ya reckon it would be worth it for a country to tap into their ability to work hard and do well, scrabble and athleticism?
I've always maintained that, if they put as much effort into legitimate business as they seem to put into divers nefarious ventures and scams, they'd be the most successful country on earth.


Remarkable stereotyping here.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:25 am
by yermum
I love Nigeria. Spent a couple of happy years out there in my mid 20s.

Not sure how much things have changed but it was a kleptocracy back in the day (late 90s). Every transaction had to be "dashed" to make it happen.

the beer is excellent.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm
by Biffer
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:48 am
Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:37 am So car jacking is a constant risk then?
No, not from my experience. Have you been to either cities?
Nope, I'm merely shit stirring.

FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:06 pm
by assfly
Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.
I agree on the potential. A lot of the middle class Nigerians I met are educated in the UK and US, and the younger ones seem to want to move away from the stereotypes. But they are a minority.

I was having dinner at one of the new high-end shopping centres in Abuja. I was complimenting the city on it's modern appearance and amenities, and he told me that what makes Nigeria unique is that if I were to drive one hour north I would find people living naked in the bush with little or no contact with the modern world. He also mentioned that although the population is considered to be 195 million he said there is an error margin of 10%. An error margin of nearly 20 million people. :crazy:

Re: Nigeria

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:19 pm
by Biffer
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:06 pm
Biffer wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:58 pm FWIW, I think Nigeria has the potential to lead amongst African nations in so many ways - developing into a modern stable democracy, economic development and not least demonstrating that large Muslim and Christian populations can coexist peacefully (and not vote according to religion). If it goes right, it could lea the whole area to better future. If it goes wrong it could equally lead to a shit show across the whole region.
I agree on the potential. A lot of the middle class Nigerians I met are educated in the UK and US, and the younger ones seem to want to move away from the stereotypes. But they are a minority.

I was having dinner at one of the new high-end shopping centres in Abuja. I was complimenting the city on it's modern appearance and amenities, and he told me that what makes Nigeria unique is that if I were to drive one hour north I would find people living naked in the bush with little or no contact with the modern world. He also mentioned that although the population is considered to be 195 million he said there is an error margin of 10%. An error margin of nearly 20 million people. :crazy:
I don't think that makes it unique - there are a lot of developing countries which could be considered similar.