So, coronavirus...

[Fangle]

but rather fist pumping for quite a while to come.

Better done in private surely?

Haha. Unlike CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin on a Zoom call!

[mat the expat]

[Not saying anyone would take offence, just not a great look. More relevant probably is if you’ve got to use hand sanitiser 50-70 times a day your skin will feel like it’s had a good rub down with sandpaper.

Apart from the fact thou said exactly that.

[Jockaline]

If infections levels remain low I'm not in favour of continuing social distancing other than public events with strangers, and it would be pointless to try. Many people, including me, are single household and have had zero physical interaction with anyone for over a year. Hugs from friends, touching, sexual or not, are so important to ones mental well being.

I'm glad the oldies have embraced their new freedom and are out and about with confidence and a spring in their step. They are, if we believe the science, no longer at risk of serious illness or death. We need to reap the benefits of the vaccine achievements after a hard but necessary year and a bit. Keep an eye on infection and hospitalisation rates for sure and change course if necessary, but normalise as much as possible as quickly as possible. Easy wins such as mask use sure, I've never really got why some find that such a strain on them.

[Biffer]

[Not saying anyone would take offence, just not a great look. More relevant probably is if you’ve got to use hand sanitiser 50-70 times a day your skin will feel like it’s had a good rub down with sandpaper.

Apart from the fact thou said exactly that.

No I didn’t. I said it wasn’t a good look. Learn to Fùcking read before you have a tizzy fit.

[Biffer]

If infections levels remain low I'm not in favour of continuing social distancing other than public events with strangers, and it would be pointless to try. Many people, including me, are single household and have had zero physical interaction with anyone for over a year. Hugs from friends, touching, sexual or not, are so important to ones mental well being.

I'm glad the oldies have embraced their new freedom and are out and about with confidence and a spring in their step. They are, if we believe the science, no longer at risk of serious illness or death. We need to reap the benefits of the vaccine achievements after a hard but necessary year and a bit. Keep an eye on infection and hospitalisation rates for sure and change course if necessary, but normalise as much as possible as quickly as possible. Easy wins such as mask use sure, I've never really got why some find that such a strain on them.

Believe me, I’m exactly the same. Single household, the only physical contact I’ve had in the last year apart from the doc poking my stomach was a fist bump last August. Normally a relatively tactile person with my good friends as well. It’s awful.

[tabascoboy]

WHO are a bit behind with this, but extra confirmation if it were needed I guess...

[Jockaline]

So I can have a hug if I go in quick, possibly masked, and we both hold our breaths, not ideal, but I'll take it.

[Marylandolorian]

WHO are a bit behind with this, but extra confirmation if it were needed I guess...

WHO has been behind by a mile since the beginning of this farking virus, all of these useless and shameless aholes should be fired.

[mat the expat]

[Not saying anyone would take offence, just not a great look. More relevant probably is if you’ve got to use hand sanitiser 50-70 times a day your skin will feel like it’s had a good rub down with sandpaper.

Apart from the fact thou said exactly that.

No I didn’t. I said it wasn’t a good look. Learn to Fùcking read before you have a tizzy fit.

You're not leaving a good impression here.....

[Biffer]

Apart from the fact thou said exactly that.

No I didn’t. I said it wasn’t a good look. Learn to Fùcking read before you have a tizzy fit.

You're not leaving a good impression here.....

What, by knowing how to read and not lying about what other people say? Your sector must accept cunts if they have you.

[Slick]

This is one of the odder shitfights we have had on here.

[Openside]

This is one of the odder shitfights we have had on here.

Indeed, and I am washing my hands of it!!

[mat the expat]

The sarchasm failed sadly

[Saint]

2nd doses in the UK tailing off a bit, reflecting 1st doses around 12 months ago. However 1st doses not particularly accelerating, presumably as there's a bit of a stock building exercise going on to cope with the 5 million odd 2nd dose week that's coming up soon

[Raggs]

2nd doses in the UK tailing off a bit, reflecting 1st doses around 12 months ago. However 1st doses not particularly accelerating, presumably as there's a bit of a stock building exercise going on to cope with the 5 million odd 2nd dose week that's coming up soon

Suspect the long weekend (and our school had an inset day on friday, others may have done too), could have had an effect. Let's wait and see if the rest of the week pans out the same or if the numbers pick up again.

[Saint]

2nd doses in the UK tailing off a bit, reflecting 1st doses around 12 months ago. However 1st doses not particularly accelerating, presumably as there's a bit of a stock building exercise going on to cope with the 5 million odd 2nd dose week that's coming up soon

Suspect the long weekend (and our school had an inset day on friday, others may have done too), could have had an effect. Let's wait and see if the rest of the week pans out the same or if the numbers pick up again.

It started trending down over a week ago, and it's very definitely the 2nd doses only trending downwards

[tc27]

2nd doses in the UK tailing off a bit, reflecting 1st doses around 12 months ago. However 1st doses not particularly accelerating, presumably as there's a bit of a stock building exercise going on to cope with the 5 million odd 2nd dose week that's coming up soon

Suspect the long weekend (and our school had an inset day on friday, others may have done too), could have had an effect. Let's wait and see if the rest of the week pans out the same or if the numbers pick up again.

Minister promising big numbers the rest of this week.

Ancedotally almost everyone I know over 40 has at least one jab now.

[Saint]

Like I said, at some point soon they actually need to deliver an absolute shitload of second jabs. We had a week where we hit nearly 5 million in the week, and with 800,000 in a single day. That's building up in the forecast for 2nd doses to be delivered, and without any external delivery from India or the EU for AZ has got to be a limiting factor at the moment. Not sure we'll be opening up to under 40s any time soon in most places

[Raggs]

2nd doses in the UK tailing off a bit, reflecting 1st doses around 12 months ago. However 1st doses not particularly accelerating, presumably as there's a bit of a stock building exercise going on to cope with the 5 million odd 2nd dose week that's coming up soon

Suspect the long weekend (and our school had an inset day on friday, others may have done too), could have had an effect. Let's wait and see if the rest of the week pans out the same or if the numbers pick up again.

It started trending down over a week ago, and it's very definitely the 2nd doses only trending downwards

Doesn't look like it trended down over a week ago to me (2nd doses), there was only 1 day it was lower (and that was offset by the following day), going from the 19th - 26th. Only this past long weekend (including the friday) has seen a drop, and as I said, if lots of people had an inset day, there;s real potential for a long weekend getaway type deal.

[Saint]

Suspect the long weekend (and our school had an inset day on friday, others may have done too), could have had an effect. Let's wait and see if the rest of the week pans out the same or if the numbers pick up again.

It started trending down over a week ago, and it's very definitely the 2nd doses only trending downwards

Doesn't look like it trended down over a week ago to me (2nd doses), there was only 1 day it was lower (and that was offset by the following day), going from the 19th - 26th. Only this past long weekend (including the friday) has seen a drop, and as I said, if lots of people had an inset day, there;s real potential for a long weekend getaway type deal.

The 7 day average peaked on April 26th. Every day since then the average has dropped. Absolutely understand the long weekend will have an impact in the most recent numbers, but there's a real downwards trend that predates the weekend.

Like I said, there has to be a huge number being built up to to cope with the bonkers 1st dose period we had

[Biffer]

Like I said, at some point soon they actually need to deliver an absolute shitload of second jabs. We had a week where we hit nearly 5 million in the week, and with 800,000 in a single day. That's building up in the forecast for 2nd doses to be delivered, and without any external delivery from India or the EU for AZ has got to be a limiting factor at the moment. Not sure we'll be opening up to under 40s any time soon in most places

In Scotland I'm expecting second doses to trend down a bit in the next week, and first doses to kick in again. The big numbers of first doses up here were 31st Jan - 14th Feb, where 50,000+ were done each day, but it looks like they've been aiming for around a 10 week interval for the second dose, as there's now more second doses given than there were first doses by 14th Feb (1,348,000 vs 1,242,000). Last couple of weeks they were hitting 40-45,000 second doses a day to get to there, which meant first doses were low (<10,000/day). Expecting it to go to a 50/50 or 40/60 split of first dose v second dose now, as that will keep pace with the second dose rate (first doses were about 25-30k/day second half of Feb and most of March) allowing us to get through most of the 40-49 group in the next two or three weeks (about 350k more people to do).

[Raggs]

It started trending down over a week ago, and it's very definitely the 2nd doses only trending downwards

Doesn't look like it trended down over a week ago to me (2nd doses), there was only 1 day it was lower (and that was offset by the following day), going from the 19th - 26th. Only this past long weekend (including the friday) has seen a drop, and as I said, if lots of people had an inset day, there;s real potential for a long weekend getaway type deal.

The 7 day average peaked on April 26th. Every day since then the average has dropped. Absolutely understand the long weekend will have an impact in the most recent numbers, but there's a real downwards trend that predates the weekend.

Like I said, there has to be a huge number being built up to to cope with the bonkers 1st dose period we had

Yes, April 26th for 7 day average, goes upto and includes April 29th (Friday inset day). If you look, you can see the same drop each week, this week, due to the weekend, it continues to drop longer than it has before.

If it peaked on the 26th, how can you say it trended down over a week ago (when it literally peaked a week ago, the highest it's been for 2nd doses).

[Saint]

And in other news, I'm AZ dose 1 + 72 hours and having to dose up on paracetamol every 2 hours. My shoulder is murdering me

[Fangle]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

[fishfoodie]

And in other news, I'm AZ dose 1 + 72 hours and having to dose up on paracetamol every 2 hours. My shoulder is murdering me

I won't call you a softcock just yet, as I haven't had any doses yet, & karma can be a bitch

[Biffer]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

[Saint]

And in other news, I'm AZ dose 1 + 72 hours and having to dose up on paracetamol every 2 hours. My shoulder is murdering me

I won't call you a softcock just yet, as I haven't had any doses yet, & karma can be a bitch

I take heart from the fact that I've not ended up in bed for a week unlike some people I know.

I had a reaction to the flu vaccine like this once, around 15 years ago, so not anything I'm too concerned about. But I've had today off and am back to work tomorrow, and while I can use a mouse I;m going to struggle with long term keyboard use

[Marylandolorian]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

Or the Kung Flu ( who by the way wasn’t Trump idea) Don’t all these coronavirus shits always start in Chiiinaa ?

Also does it ring the bell if they say the B.1.427 variant ?

[Ymx]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

[Fangle]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

[Lemoentjie]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Yes. The Chinese know that fear of being accused of racism is a weapon against the West, therefore they use it like that. And it works.

[Calculon]

I guess the other names didn’t result in a surge of hate crime against a particular ethnic group, or more accurately in this case, anyone who looks a bit Chinese. If the media or politicians calling it by its proper name, rather than “China virus” or “Kong Flu”, has any inhibiting effect on anti-Asian sentiment, I would think it worth it.

[Uncle fester]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

Or the Kung Flu ( who by the way wasn’t Trump idea) Don’t all these coronavirus shits always start in Chiiinaa ?

Also does it ring the bell if they say the B.1.427 variant ?

Swine flu was North America.

[Uncle fester]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

[Marylandolorian]

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

Or the Kung Flu ( who by the way wasn’t Trump idea) Don’t all these coronavirus shits always start in Chiiinaa ?

Also does it ring the bell if they say the B.1.427 variant ?

Swine flu was North America.

Swine flu didn’t kill millions (still 500k) and didn’t cost trillions of dollars to the world economy and mainly 100% sure it didn’t come from a lab .

[Marylandolorian]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

Wrong, you need to update your library, it came from China.

https://www.history.com/news/china-epic ... orian-says

[Fangle]

So, Asian flu is fine

[Saint]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

[Calculon]

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

Wrong, you need to update your library, it came from China.

https://www.history.com/news/china-epic ... orian-says

You'll believe any old shit won't you?

[Fangle]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

Didn’t it take a while before they got to naming it.?Anyway I was just chatting idly. Call it anything you want.