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Thanks hlvp. Cloudy but warm here today.

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BATTLE OF WITS
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Good morning. Cloudier. 15º C.

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FRANKLIN
But I don’t get the Canterbury pilgrim part of the clue?
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Is it a Chaucer reference? Have only read a few of the tales.
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Cloudy but mild, 17C

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= twitcher
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= welfare state
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FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:13 am Is it a Chaucer reference? Have only read a few of the tales.
EDIT: Yes. Thank you Wikipedia. A so-called English teacher will be brushing up on his Chaucer over the summer.
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FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:13 am Is it a Chaucer reference? Have only read a few of the tales.
Yes.
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FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:15 am
FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:13 am Is it a Chaucer reference? Have only read a few of the tales.
EDIT: Yes. Thank you Wikipedia. A so-called English teacher will be brushing up on his Chaucer over the summer.
Had to do the Canterbury tales at A level. Like learning a new language on the go!
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Guys, you are all masters of the cryptic crosswords.

As a complete novice I read a little, and understand there are types of clue. So part of it is deciphering which type of clue it is and then it’s solving the word. Is this correct? Or am I way off on this?
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So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
It's an anagram !
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THEN AGAIN.
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hlvp wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:27 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
It's an anagram !
Yep, but how did FK figure out the first part was an anagram?
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PISTOL = PI + STOLe
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IGUANA = CAR leaving NICARAGUA crushed (ie anagram) lizard
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
Yep. You’re right. As hlvp says, it’s an anagram. Or as you say “the letters”.

Anagrams, spelling words backwards, allusions, puns, riddles, hiding words in clues are just some of the tricks I’ve noticed used by compilers (I’m still a rookie, really).

Your question is a bit funny, because figuring out what kind of clue it is is what it’s all about. That’s the point. It’s supposed to be baffling, discerning which part of the clue is which, and how to then solve it. That’s what makes the dopamine rush hit so hard when you solve one.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:44 am
hlvp wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:27 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
It's an anagram !
Yep, but how did FK figure out the first part was an anagram?
Spidey sense.

It becomes an intuition more and more as you solve hundreds.

But if you want to apply reason, you’d see that that expression makes no sense as a definition. That pointed me in the direction of an anagram.
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FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:48 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
Yep. You’re right. As hlvp says, it’s an anagram. Or as you say “the letters”.

Anagrams, spelling words backwards, allusions, puns, riddles, hiding words in clues are just some of the tricks I’ve noticed used by compilers (I’m still a rookie, really).

Your question is a bit funny, because figuring out what kind of clue it is is what it’s all about. That’s the point. It’s supposed to be baffling, discerning which part of the clue is which, and how to then solve it. That’s what makes the dopamine rush hit so hard when you solve one.
Ok, cheers. Are most of them anagrams combined with clues?

Which are the most common types/structure of clues?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:53 am
FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:48 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
Yep. You’re right. As hlvp says, it’s an anagram. Or as you say “the letters”.

Anagrams, spelling words backwards, allusions, puns, riddles, hiding words in clues are just some of the tricks I’ve noticed used by compilers (I’m still a rookie, really).

Your question is a bit funny, because figuring out what kind of clue it is is what it’s all about. That’s the point. It’s supposed to be baffling, discerning which part of the clue is which, and how to then solve it. That’s what makes the dopamine rush hit so hard when you solve one.
Ok, cheers. Are most of them anagrams combined with clues?

Which are the most common types/structure of clues?
Ha. Read my sermon again. I think it’s the wrong approach to have a set likelihood in mind. That often sets you on the wrong path anyway. Take each clue as it comes is my recommendation.
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Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:26 am So 14a

Looks to me like the first part is the letters and the second part the definition (by looking at the answer)

Ableist two fit

to engage in intellectual competition


Is this correct? Bloody clever if so. How did you figure out that this was the type of clue?
This may help
https://www.wealthwords.com/blog/comple ... rosswords/

Also, start with Monday (tends to be easier)
Cheers!
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Similar to the other one.
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Ah. Already done. Got it right though :grin:
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FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:55 am
Ymx wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:53 am
FujiKiwi wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:48 am

Yep. You’re right. As hlvp says, it’s an anagram. Or as you say “the letters”.

Anagrams, spelling words backwards, allusions, puns, riddles, hiding words in clues are just some of the tricks I’ve noticed used by compilers (I’m still a rookie, really).

Your question is a bit funny, because figuring out what kind of clue it is is what it’s all about. That’s the point. It’s supposed to be baffling, discerning which part of the clue is which, and how to then solve it. That’s what makes the dopamine rush hit so hard when you solve one.
Ok, cheers. Are most of them anagrams combined with clues?

Which are the most common types/structure of clues?
Ha. Read my sermon again. I think it’s the wrong approach to have a set likelihood in mind. That often sets you on the wrong path anyway. Take each clue as it comes is my recommendation.
Ok, but in your mind you have a toolset of options to apply.

At present, I have anagrams or ... can’t do it.
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