President Biden and US politics catchall

[TB63]

[Marylandolorian]

No "Biden bounce" of improved perceptions of the US in Germany and France according to poll.

I wonder if the US will ever reclaim the sort of prestige it enjoyed on the world stage prior to 2016? I think the antics of Trump coupled with the revelation of the US spying on Germany some years earlier and the gun violence/BLM stuff have permanently damaged worldwide perceptions of the US.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/no-bid ... 021-06-07/

The United States' reputation as the leading global power has suffered in France and Germany because of Washington's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic that has killed nearly 600,000 Americans, a poll showed on Monday.

On the eve of President Joe Biden's trip to Europe, the survey by the German Marshall Fund and the Bertelsmann Foundation said he had not won back the standing of the United States as it was before COVID-19 struck. China's reputation had risen slightly.

According to U.S. research papers released on March 26, the United States under Biden's predecessor Donald Trump could have avoided nearly 400,000 deaths with a more effective strategy.

"The first three months of the Biden administration have not affected French and German views of U.S. influence in the world," the study of views in 11 countries said.

"These numbers are in line with the results of the 2020 survey, which had fallen by about 10 points from the pre-pandemic numbers, to the advantage of China."

That compares with the perception within the United States that U.S. influence abroad has risen, the survey found.

Biden embarks on his first European tour as president on Wednesday to attend G7, NATO and European Union summits. He faces the challenge of repairing transatlantic ties damaged by Trump, whose withdrawal from international agreements and sharp criticism of NATO undermined European faith in Washington.

Only 51% of Germans see the United States as a reliable partner, rising to 60% in France, 67% in Britain and 76% in Poland. Fewer than a quarter of Turks trust the United States. Most Americans regard the European Union as a reliable partner, the study said.

A majority of respondents surveyed still think that the United States should be involved in the defence and security of Europe, except in Sweden, where views are divided, and Turkey.

Conducted online between March 29 and April 13, the survey sampled 1,000 adults in each of the 11 countries - Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Sweden, Turkey , the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Really, China numbers went up ? Because these assholes 3 millions of people died , millions will have covid related health issues for the rest of their life and the world economy lost trillions of $ but they gain 10 points , sad world.

The survey was done first part of April, maybe the views will change a bit now that the US gave 500 million doses of Pfizer to poorer countries .... or maybe not.

[Hugo]

No "Biden bounce" of improved perceptions of the US in Germany and France according to poll.

I wonder if the US will ever reclaim the sort of prestige it enjoyed on the world stage prior to 2016? I think the antics of Trump coupled with the revelation of the US spying on Germany some years earlier and the gun violence/BLM stuff have permanently damaged worldwide perceptions of the US.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/no-bid ... 021-06-07/

The United States' reputation as the leading global power has suffered in France and Germany because of Washington's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic that has killed nearly 600,000 Americans, a poll showed on Monday.

On the eve of President Joe Biden's trip to Europe, the survey by the German Marshall Fund and the Bertelsmann Foundation said he had not won back the standing of the United States as it was before COVID-19 struck. China's reputation had risen slightly.

According to U.S. research papers released on March 26, the United States under Biden's predecessor Donald Trump could have avoided nearly 400,000 deaths with a more effective strategy.

"The first three months of the Biden administration have not affected French and German views of U.S. influence in the world," the study of views in 11 countries said.

"These numbers are in line with the results of the 2020 survey, which had fallen by about 10 points from the pre-pandemic numbers, to the advantage of China."

That compares with the perception within the United States that U.S. influence abroad has risen, the survey found.

Biden embarks on his first European tour as president on Wednesday to attend G7, NATO and European Union summits. He faces the challenge of repairing transatlantic ties damaged by Trump, whose withdrawal from international agreements and sharp criticism of NATO undermined European faith in Washington.

Only 51% of Germans see the United States as a reliable partner, rising to 60% in France, 67% in Britain and 76% in Poland. Fewer than a quarter of Turks trust the United States. Most Americans regard the European Union as a reliable partner, the study said.

A majority of respondents surveyed still think that the United States should be involved in the defence and security of Europe, except in Sweden, where views are divided, and Turkey.

Conducted online between March 29 and April 13, the survey sampled 1,000 adults in each of the 11 countries - Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Sweden, Turkey , the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Really, China numbers went up ? Because these assholes 3 millions of people died , millions will have covid related health issues for the rest of their life and the world economy lost trillions of $ but they gain 10 points , sad world.

The survey was done first part of April, maybe the views will change a bit now that the US gave 500 million doses of Pfizer to poorer countries .... or maybe not.

I think its probably a reflection of the way the media have covered the pandemic. Criticism of China has been relatively muted in comparison to the criticism levelled at various govts mishandling of the response. Foremost amongst which was the Trump administration. There's also the element of Asian people being beaten up in the US (and the Atlanta shooting) which has further soured perceptions of America.

Up until only very recently the notion that the virus came from a lab was dismissed as a conspiracy theory. If the Biden investigation turns up evidence that it did I would imagine public opinion will shift.

[Kiwias]

She's never made more sense!!

[Rinkals]

I'm kind of interested to see where this goes.

If they indict Trump, will his base stage another coup?

[fishfoodie]

I'm kind of interested to see where this goes.

If they indict Trump, will his base stage another coup?

It's been telegraphed from a long way off; & I think the NY Bar association started getting complaints from hundreds of lawyers; as soon as the douch bag started the big fraud lie.

I've less than zero sympathy for him; or anyone else, who peddles the election fraud lies; they're treasonous traitors, & nothing less; & anything that comes their way is fully deserved.

[Saint]

I'm kind of interested to see where this goes.

If they indict Trump, will his base stage another coup?

It's been telegraphed from a long way off; & I think the NY Bar association started getting complaints from hundreds of lawyers; as soon as the douch bag started the big fraud lie.

I've less than zero sympathy for him; or anyone else, who peddles the election fraud lies; they're treasonous traitors, & nothing less; & anything that comes their way is fully deserved.

Just read the highlights of the panel's judgement. Sounds like this was the easiest decision they've ever made, and also reads like they quite enjoyed ripping Rudi's arguments to shreds. There's going to be an appeal, but he has absolutely no evidence to back him up - as was noted even after being presented with proof that he was spouting complete nonsense, he continued.

[fishfoodie]

I'm kind of interested to see where this goes.

If they indict Trump, will his base stage another coup?

It's been telegraphed from a long way off; & I think the NY Bar association started getting complaints from hundreds of lawyers; as soon as the douch bag started the big fraud lie.

I've less than zero sympathy for him; or anyone else, who peddles the election fraud lies; they're treasonous traitors, & nothing less; & anything that comes their way is fully deserved.

Just read the highlights of the panel's judgement. Sounds like this was the easiest decision they've ever made, and also reads like they quite enjoyed ripping Rudi's arguments to shreds. There's going to be an appeal, but he has absolutely no evidence to back him up - as was noted even after being presented with proof that he was spouting complete nonsense, he continued.

I'm not surprised.

He's hitching his wagon to the notion that he no longer needs to have an actual job; he can just have a gig parroting bullshit to right-wing media.

His only problem is that the suits by voting machine companies, have already put the wind up all of the scumbag media; & no-one in their right mind is going to invite Rudi to give his opinion on anything; because even if you don't lose the case; you spend a fortune on lawyers; the loss of advertising dollars is ruinous. He's just cancer at this point to any media outlet !

[fishfoodie]

In another RICO update; the SDNY has warned the Trump Org; that it's going to proceed against; "The Organization" !, probably within a week.

So they have a series of criminal acts; from the hush payments, to the bank valuations, to insurance valuations; & un-taxed BIK stuff for senior officers. All of these together show the Org as a criminal enterprise over decades.

and then the kicker .... the point being made by an ex-senior DA, is that no Bank will have anything to do with a company that is; not just under investigation; but under indictment, & in those circumstances; the banks would all call in their loans; & the Turd org, would go into bankruptcy immediately !

The SDNY has given up looking for heads; & now their just going to burn the Organization to the ground, & fish around in the debris for people to throw in jail; & be satisfied with removing a cancer from their State.

[Rinkals]

Is this all tax-related, though?

As I understand it, it's a question of paying up and all being forgiven.

Mind you, I'm not sure what the Trump Org fiscal reserves are. Maybe it'll force him into a seventh bankruptcy. He'll probably be alright, though: Vlad will probably stump up for him and his base will continue to donate funds.

[Saint]

Is this all tax-related, though?

As I understand it, it's a question of paying up and all being forgiven.

Mind you, I'm not sure what the Trump Org fiscal reserves are. Maybe it'll force him into a seventh bankruptcy. He'll probably be alright, though: Vlad will probably stump up for him and his base will continue to donate funds.

The valuation stuff is fraud; there's also potential bribery and corruption cases in there. It will be interesting to see what the initial charges might be

[Hong Kong]

[Kiwias]

Not sure I would want to drive through any hardcore Trump areas in that.

[Hong Kong]

[GogLais]

Granted I don't follow domestic US news closely but things seem far quieter than I would expect them to be. No storming of state capitols or terrorist attacks for example. That I know of anyway. What should I make of this?

[Rinkals]

Granted I don't follow domestic US news closely but things seem far quieter than I would expect them to be. No storming of state capitols or terrorist attacks for example. That I know of anyway. What should I make of this?

It's difficult to separate the conspiracy theories from what we see from interviews of punters at Trump's Ohio rally.

At the heart of a conspiracy theory, there is a plan. The conspirators have an objective, and they work together to manipulate events to further that objective.

The weakness in a lot of conspiracy theories is that the number of people who would be required to maintain absolute silence makes them implausible.

In this case, I don't think there is any planned and coordinated action; rather, I think there is a general objective - return Trump to the Presidency in August - and there are disparate groups working separately to influence events which would make it easier for that to happen.

On Fox News and other pro-Trump outlets, there have been unprecedented attacks on the Military Leadership in the last few days and I've read opinions that view this as part of an attempt to drive a wedge between the rank-and-file and Command. The feeling is that the January 6th could have succeeded but that the Generals failed to support it. By undermining their authority and appealing to the other ranks, the feeling is that the anticipated support from the Military would be more likely to materialise. General Flynn's comments about the Myanmar coup would seem to support this.

Of course this all could be highly fanciful rubbish, but it does seem that a lot of the attendees of Trump's rally believe it.

[robmatic]

On Fox News and other pro-Trump outlets, there have been unprecedented attacks on the Military Leadership in the last few days and I've read opinions that view this as part of an attempt to drive a wedge between the rank-and-file and Command. The feeling is that the January 6th could have succeeded but that the Generals failed to support it. By undermining their authority and appealing to the other ranks, the feeling is that the anticipated support from the Military would be more likely to materialise. General Flynn's comments about the Myanmar coup would seem to support this.

Of course this all could be highly fanciful rubbish, but it does seem that a lot of the attendees of Trump's rally believe it.

The US military's racial makeup tends less white than the general US population, especially among the lower ranks, so it's weird that Trumpists assume that the military would be on their side.

[Rinkals]

Yes.

I'm not sure that logic is the strong suit of most Trump supporters, though.

When rally goers speak of 'civil war', they clearly feel that they have the support of both the general population and the military rank and file.

I think the general perception is that Biden is only President through the intervention of the Washington Elite and that Trump won "over 80% of the vote" (according to one interviewee).

At what point does Trump's whipping up of his supporters become treason?

I can honestly see a situation where there is an attempt on Biden's or Pelosi's life in the next few months and, should that happen, it would be hard to absolve Donald J. Trump.

[Rinkals]

On the tax related charges against Trump Org. it does seem as though this may be a damp squib.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/2 ... rge-496768

According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives.

“We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” Fischetti told POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’”

“It’s crazy that that’s all they had,” he added.

...

“It’s like the Shakespeare play Much Ado About Nothing,” Fischetti added. “This is so small that I can’t believe I’m going to have to try a case like this.”

[fishfoodie]

On the tax related charges against Trump Org. it does seem as though this may be a damp squib.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/2 ... rge-496768

According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives.

“We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” Fischetti told POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’”

“It’s crazy that that’s all they had,” he added.

...

“It’s like the Shakespeare play Much Ado About Nothing,” Fischetti added. “This is so small that I can’t believe I’m going to have to try a case like this.”

You're taking the opinion of the shitgibbons lawyer as accurate & factual ????

[Rinkals]

I'm not so sure.

What I do know is that they'd given Trump's lawyers until yesterday to respond to the charges, so I'd be quite surprised if they didn't tell them what the charges were.

I could be wrong, though.

[GogLais]

Granted I don't follow domestic US news closely but things seem far quieter than I would expect them to be. No storming of state capitols or terrorist attacks for example. That I know of anyway. What should I make of this?

It's difficult to separate the conspiracy theories from what we see from interviews of punters at Trump's Ohio rally.

At the heart of a conspiracy theory, there is a plan. The conspirators have an objective, and they work together to manipulate events to further that objective.

The weakness in a lot of conspiracy theories is that the number of people who would be required to maintain absolute silence makes them implausible.

In this case, I don't think there is any planned and coordinated action; rather, I think there is a general objective - return Trump to the Presidency in August - and there are disparate groups working separately to influence events which would make it easier for that to happen.

On Fox News and other pro-Trump outlets, there have been unprecedented attacks on the Military Leadership in the last few days and I've read opinions that view this as part of an attempt to drive a wedge between the rank-and-file and Command. The feeling is that the January 6th could have succeeded but that the Generals failed to support it. By undermining their authority and appealing to the other ranks, the feeling is that the anticipated support from the Military would be more likely to materialise. General Flynn's comments about the Myanmar coup would seem to support this.

Of course this all could be highly fanciful rubbish, but it does seem that a lot of the attendees of Trump's rally believe it.

Thanks for this.

[fishfoodie]

I'm not so sure.

What I do know is that they'd given Trump's lawyers until yesterday to respond to the charges, so I'd be quite surprised if they didn't tell them what the charges were.

I could be wrong, though.

This round is just about driving a wedge between the shitgibbon; & someone who knows where the bodies are. The charges are just big enough to make someone like Weisselberg contemplate spend the rest of his life in prison; & his two sons are also in the frame.

Right now he's still using their lawyer; so he hasn't made a deal; but there's another guy in play, who worked for him, & actually did the leg work, & signed the forms. These guys have probably gotten all kinds of promises from the loser; but they know the true value of his promises.

They can be brave now; but lets see if they are prepared to go into court & perjure themselves; on the strength of a promise from a pathological liar, to look after them.

[Kiwias]

This bloke Glenn Kirschner offers a decent explanation why this first indictment seems somewhat minor and trivial.

[convoluted]

In another RICO update; the SDNY has warned the Trump Org; that it's going to proceed against; "The Organization" !, probably within a week.

So they have a series of criminal acts; from the hush payments, to the bank valuations, to insurance valuations; & un-taxed BIK stuff for senior officers. All of these together show the Org as a criminal enterprise over decades.

and then the kicker .... the point being made by an ex-senior DA, is that no Bank will have anything to do with a company that is; not just under investigation; but under indictment, & in those circumstances; the banks would all call in their loans; & the Turd org, would go into bankruptcy immediately !

The SDNY has given up looking for heads; & now their just going to burn the Organization to the ground, & fish around in the debris for people to throw in jail; & be satisfied with removing a cancer from their State.

Yay !!!!!!!

THIS TIME (attempt #76 to take down Trump) is surely it.
THIS TIME the noose is surely tightening.
THIS TIME the walls are surely closing in on Trump.

Dear God please please please please let it be THIS TIME.
75 previous times we gullible morons have fallen for the anti-Trump crap from the MSM.
75 previous times the MSM have treated us with absolute contempt by feeding total crap into our pea brains.
75 previous times all my pro-Trump relatives and friends have ended up cackling at me for my buffoonish servitude to the MSM.

So please let it be this time.

Please, I beg you.

[Zig]

Even South Africa can successfully prosecute corrupt former Presidents.

[Rinkals]

Spoiler

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In another RICO update; the SDNY has warned the Trump Org; that it's going to proceed against; "The Organization" !, probably within a week.

So they have a series of criminal acts; from the hush payments, to the bank valuations, to insurance valuations; & un-taxed BIK stuff for senior officers. All of these together show the Org as a criminal enterprise over decades.

and then the kicker .... the point being made by an ex-senior DA, is that no Bank will have anything to do with a company that is; not just under investigation; but under indictment, & in those circumstances; the banks would all call in their loans; & the Turd org, would go into bankruptcy immediately !

The SDNY has given up looking for heads; & now their just going to burn the Organization to the ground, & fish around in the debris for people to throw in jail; & be satisfied with removing a cancer from their State.

Yay !!!!!!!

THIS TIME (attempt #76 to take down Trump) is surely it.
THIS TIME the noose is surely tightening.
THIS TIME the walls are surely closing in on Trump.

Dear God please please please please let it be THIS TIME.
75 previous times we gullible morons have fallen for the anti-Trump crap from the MSM.
75 previous times the MSM have treated us with absolute contempt by feeding total crap into our pea brains.
75 previous times all my pro-Trump relatives and friends have ended up cackling at me for my buffoonish servitude to the MSM.

So please let it be this time.

Please, I beg you.

Is the other board down?

I thought we were mostly adults here.

[Uncle fester]

Has only ever posted in this thread too.
Ignore list methinks.

[Grandpa]

Yay !!!!!!!

THIS TIME (attempt #76 to overturn election in favour of Trump) is surely it.
THIS TIME the noose is surely tightening.
THIS TIME the walls are surely closing in on this fraud.

Dear God please please please please let it be THIS TIME.
75 previous times we gullible morons have fallen for the pro-Trump crap from... Trump... oh and Fox.. but even they have mostly given up.. so try OAN.
75 previous times Trump has treated us with absolute contempt by feeding total crap into anyone who cares...
75 previous times all my pro-Trump relatives and friends... wait... I don't know any morons...

So please let it be this time.

Please, I beg you.

Keep up the good work...

[Sandstorm]

Has only ever posted in this thread too.
Ignore list methinks.

Its Sneaker

[Ali Cadoo]

Has only ever posted in this thread too.
Ignore list methinks.

Its Sneaker

I never thought that silly wanker would show his face again after going full QAnon...

[fishfoodie]

WSJ saying that Weisselberg does the pimp-walk tomorrow.

[Hal Jordan]

Donald Rumsfeld is dead.

[JM2K6]

Has only ever posted in this thread too.
Ignore list methinks.

Its Sneaker

I never thought that silly wanker would show his face again after going full QAnon...

He writes nothing like Seneca

[Slick]

Donald Rumsfeld is dead.

Is that a known known?

Oh well

[Gumboot]

The US justice department is halting all federal executions after a historic use of capital punishment by the Trump administration, which carried out 13 executions in six months.

The attorney general, Merrick Garland, ordered a temporary pause on Thursday, saying he was imposing a moratorium on federal executions while the justice department reviews its capital punishment policies and procedures.

“The Department of Justice must ensure that everyone in the federal criminal justice system is not only afforded the rights guaranteed by the constitution and laws of the United States, but is also treated fairly and humanely,” Garland said. “That obligation has special force in capital cases.”

[Insane_Homer]

[Hal Jordan]

Does he squeal or will he get a chat from Tom Hagen about Roman plotters?

[fishfoodie]

Does he squeal or will he get a chat from Tom Hagen about Roman plotters?

One of interesting points in the indictment; is an "Unindicted Co-conspirator", who a lot of the media are speculating is Jeffrey McConney, the Orgs Controller, who carried out Weisselberg's instructions, around the various tax fiddles.

It makes sense as; he was interviewed as well; & if Weisselberg isn't co-operating, then he'd be the next most valuable witness.

[fishfoodie]

The destruction of Democracy in the US is almost complete.

The conservation majority in the Supreme Court , upheld the racist voting laws passed, by Arizona; & so green lit similar laws across the Southern states.

The Democrats need to get off their arses, immediately, & remove the filibuster, & restructure the court, to stop the complete politicization of the Court. They're being taken for mugs by the GOP, who aren't interested in cooperation, & doing whats best for the country.