Slick wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:38 am
tc27 wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:30 am
So going my head above the parapet and say the whole 'its finally come home' theme is a bit of a reach. Winning the women's Euros is an achievement that stands in its own right but its not something that finally ends the ongoing narrative associated with the men's team.
Yeah, it's bollocks. Kind of demeans their own achievement a bit by seeming a little needy when they don't need to be
Nah, you just need to put it into context. Every single one of those players is a massive fan of English football. Being part of the team that finally wins a major trophy genuinely feels like part of that whole journey to them (including the men's team) especially given their previous finals experiences. If they weren't playing, they'd be in the stands celebrating with just as much gusto. They care about football - men's, women's - and it's a great credit to them.
Are there plenty of people who won't see this as ending the hurt? Absolutely. But it is equivalent for these girls and I just can't see it as needy at all; it's a generation of players who've grown up with all the pressure and the agony of the men's failures who can't do anything about that but can for the women's game. It seems like a genuine response to me. Would also say the crowd seemed a-OK with singing the song! :-)
I don't think tc27 is wrong or anything, it's purely subjective (and it clearly won't end the narrative - it'll just put the pressure on the men's team to do the same / take heart from it), I just... don't think it's needy at all.