NZ Rugby Thread

[OomStruisbaai]

Waikato line outs need work.

[Grandpa]

Handbags!

It's a great word.. but does anyone know why that word is used?

[OomStruisbaai]

Yes vok yes!!!

[OomStruisbaai]

No re kick?

[Gumboot]

WTF?

[Certain Navigator]

The refereeing got even more confusing in the second half. Waikato were gifted another try after a clear (accidental) offside, but were robbed of what looked to be a perfectly reasonable one, and then weren't given the opportunity to retake the conversion after what looked to be an early charge.

So on net, Waikato were up a try and down a conversion.

[Grandpa]

What a fiasco... ref failing to be consistent with the early charge down there.. if first one was.. then so was the second... did the ref botte it?

[OomStruisbaai]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

[Grandpa]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

It is. Stop moving to the left after you have stopped...

[Gumboot]

NPC Round 3 games this arvo: Taranaki vs Wellington at 2.05pm and Northland vs Tasman at 4.35. Shannon Frizell is at no.8 for the Mako.

Aaand...the Heartland Championship kicks off today!

[Certain Navigator]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

[Gumboot]

Taranaki leading Wellington 20-16 at HT.

[Gumboot]

Taranaki wins it 32-26.

[OomStruisbaai]

Why is Wellington so kak?

[Kiwias]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

My feed cut out immediately after the final whistle. What happened?

[Gumboot]

Tasman ahead of Northland 24-15 at HT.

[OomStruisbaai]

Taniwhas

[Enzedder]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

My feed cut out immediately after the final whistle. What happened?

We tried to make a 1 hour video of refs errors but couldn't manage it.

[OomStruisbaai]

Rugbystream.me link work lekker.
Tasman now running away.

[OomStruisbaai]

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

My feed cut out immediately after the final whistle. What happened?

We tried to make a 1 hour video of refs errors but couldn't manage it.

Broke the cameras on the refs egg head.

[Gumboot]

This German kid Segner's an impressive young player.

[OomStruisbaai]

41-22 69 mins

[Certain Navigator]

I enjoyed the rugby dished up, never check the ref. Its depressing blaming refs.

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

My feed cut out immediately after the final whistle. What happened?

Smith chased the ref arguing against the decision. The team manager interfered with the ref on the way off the field arguing the toss. Could have been others, but the cameras cut away as soon as one of the commentators mentioned it wasn't a good look and shouldn't be getting shown.

Anybody involved should get a few weeks' suspension.

[Enzedder]

Not blaming the ref for anything, and never do — just pointing out that the officiating was eccentric, as in hard to understand. In the end, it didn't affect the result.

More concerning was the behaviour of Waikato players and officials after the final whistle. Not a good look, and I expect (hope) there will be some pretty strong disciplinary action taken by NZR.

My feed cut out immediately after the final whistle. What happened?

Smith chased the ref arguing against the decision. The team manager interfered with the ref on the way off the field arguing the toss. Could have been others, but the cameras cut away as soon as one of the commentators mentioned it wasn't a good look and shouldn't be getting shown.

Anybody involved should get a few weeks' suspension.

The ref too?

[Gumboot]

The Chiefs have confirmed Clayton McMillan will remain head coach for the 2022 Super Rugby Pacific season, despite the return of Warren Gatland from his hiatus with the British & Irish Lions.

After the Chiefs' winless 2020 season, Gatland temporarily handed over the reins to assistant McMillan as interim head coach, while he returned to the UK to plan and ultimately guide the Lions on their tour of South Africa last month.

McMillan led the team back from the doldrums, securing a place in the 2021 Super Rugby Aotearoa final, where they lost to the Crusaders.

The Hamilton-based franchise has confimed McMillan will now retain the role next season, while Gatland will move into a new position as director of rugby.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/20 ... eturn.html

Excellent. Sends a clear message that it doesn't matter who you are, failure to perform will see you demoted.

[Ymx]

The Chiefs have confirmed Clayton McMillan will remain head coach for the 2022 Super Rugby Pacific season, despite the return of Warren Gatland from his hiatus with the British & Irish Lions.

After the Chiefs' winless 2020 season, Gatland temporarily handed over the reins to assistant McMillan as interim head coach, while he returned to the UK to plan and ultimately guide the Lions on their tour of South Africa last month.

McMillan led the team back from the doldrums, securing a place in the 2021 Super Rugby Aotearoa final, where they lost to the Crusaders.

The Hamilton-based franchise has confimed McMillan will now retain the role next season, while Gatland will move into a new position as director of rugby.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/20 ... eturn.html

Excellent. Sends a clear message that it doesn't matter who you are, failure to perform will see you demoted.

Yeah, i was wondering how it would play out.

Having said that Gatland has effectively been promoted and is still his boss.

[Gumboot]

Yeah, i was wondering how it would play out.

Having said that Gatland has effectively been promoted and is still his boss.

Nah, it's a specially created position allowing him to save face while getting him as far away from the actual playing squad as they can.

Great move, who the hell wants to watch the Chiefs playing like the woeful fucking Gatlions? He's a busted flush, imho. Thank god he never got near the ABs coaching job.

[Enzedder]

Cannot have people who lose in South Africa running the show.

[Niegs]

Well worth a watch if you didn't see this!

Spoiler

Show

Real happy about sharing the title!

[Ymx]

Sounds like we are going to have back both Sam’s

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sport ... 021-10-04/

Oct 4 (Reuters) - Captain Sam Cane has been recalled to the All Blacks squad for their northern hemisphere tour later this month as locks Scott Barrett and Patrick Tuipulotu return to New Zealand for family reasons.

Cane, who missed New Zealand's involvement in the just-completed Rugby Championship in Queensland due to injury, will join up with the squad in Washington ahead of the All Blacks' meeting with the United States on Oct. 23.

Sam Whitelock, Dane Coles and Shannon Frizell have also been added to the squad that won the southern hemisphere title alongside 20-year-old newcomer Josh Lord.

"From a physical point of view, we have come through The Rugby Championship really well," All Blacks coach Ian Foster said in a statement.

"Therefore, we've decided to add fewer players than first anticipated for the next part of our 12-week tour."

With the squad unable to return to New Zealand from Australia due to pandemic restrictions, the All Blacks will hold a training camp on the Sunshine Coast before leaving for the United States on Oct. 17.

Following the game against the Eagles on Oct. 23, the squad will travel to Europe to face Wales on Oct. 30 before taking on Italy a week later.

That will be followed by a clash with Ireland on Nov. 13, with the tour finishing in Paris and a meeting with France on Nov. 20.

But we have lost 2 locks.

[Flockwitt]

And why do we need Frizzel? Plenty of loose forwards.

[Gumboot]

Sounds like we are going to have back both Sam’s

Yeah, King Country have named a ring in for their Heartland game against Whanganui in Taupo on Saturday.

[Gumboot]

And why do we need Frizzel? Plenty of loose forwards.

Fozzie says he's also emergency lock cover.

[Ymx]

So, Josh Lord is joining as second row, by the looks.

[Gumboot]

So, Josh Lord is joining as second row, by the looks.

Yep, he's a fine young player.

[Ymx]

I think I read regarding captaincy Cane won’t be it in the short term, until I guess he is full match. Either that or just Foster too scared to pit Sam v Sam.

So instead Foster will go for the lead from the wing Savea.

[Enzedder]

But we have lost 2 locks.

And we have gained 2

Sam Whitelock, Dane Coles and Shannon Frizell have also been added to the squad that won the southern hemisphere title alongside 20-year-old newcomer Josh Lord.

[Gumboot]

All Blacks 'pushing' for Folau Fakatava eligibility in 2022

Coach Ian Foster has also revealed to Stuff that there is an ongoing push to gain All Blacks eligibility for Folau Fakatava in 2022, after an ACL injury potentially robbed the Highlanders halfback of a cap this year – and pushed back his availability until 2023.

“It hasn't been cleared up, it's still a work in progress,” Foster said after the conclusion of the Rugby Championship. “I can't give you the exact details.

“I know they're still discussing it. Between Folau and New Zealand Rugby we're pushing...we think that he's done his time and he should be available next year, as does he and the players’ association.

“That’s just a work in progress with World Rugby...”

Fakatava has lived in New Zealand since he was 16 years old and starred for the Hastings Boys’ First XV, but under World Rugby regulations the eligibility clock not start ticking until 18 years of age, which World Rugby calls ‘the age of majority’.

As it stands, Folau won’t be eligible until December 16, 2022, ruling him out of next year’s test campaign, but the All Blacks would clearly love to have him as an option next year, given his strong running game, defence and improving distribution skills.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all ... -rwc-spots

Hope this works out - he's a rare talent.

[Grandpa]

All Blacks 'pushing' for Folau Fakatava eligibility in 2022

Coach Ian Foster has also revealed to Stuff that there is an ongoing push to gain All Blacks eligibility for Folau Fakatava in 2022, after an ACL injury potentially robbed the Highlanders halfback of a cap this year – and pushed back his availability until 2023.

“It hasn't been cleared up, it's still a work in progress,” Foster said after the conclusion of the Rugby Championship. “I can't give you the exact details.

“I know they're still discussing it. Between Folau and New Zealand Rugby we're pushing...we think that he's done his time and he should be available next year, as does he and the players’ association.

“That’s just a work in progress with World Rugby...”

Fakatava has lived in New Zealand since he was 16 years old and starred for the Hastings Boys’ First XV, but under World Rugby regulations the eligibility clock not start ticking until 18 years of age, which World Rugby calls ‘the age of majority’.

As it stands, Folau won’t be eligible until December 16, 2022, ruling him out of next year’s test campaign, but the All Blacks would clearly love to have him as an option next year, given his strong running game, defence and improving distribution skills.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all ... -rwc-spots

Hope this works out - he's a rare talent.

I wonder what argument they will use? That he would have been picked this year, but for injury?

[FalseBayFC]

All Blacks 'pushing' for Folau Fakatava eligibility in 2022

Coach Ian Foster has also revealed to Stuff that there is an ongoing push to gain All Blacks eligibility for Folau Fakatava in 2022, after an ACL injury potentially robbed the Highlanders halfback of a cap this year – and pushed back his availability until 2023.

“It hasn't been cleared up, it's still a work in progress,” Foster said after the conclusion of the Rugby Championship. “I can't give you the exact details.

“I know they're still discussing it. Between Folau and New Zealand Rugby we're pushing...we think that he's done his time and he should be available next year, as does he and the players’ association.

“That’s just a work in progress with World Rugby...”

Fakatava has lived in New Zealand since he was 16 years old and starred for the Hastings Boys’ First XV, but under World Rugby regulations the eligibility clock not start ticking until 18 years of age, which World Rugby calls ‘the age of majority’.

As it stands, Folau won’t be eligible until December 16, 2022, ruling him out of next year’s test campaign, but the All Blacks would clearly love to have him as an option next year, given his strong running game, defence and improving distribution skills.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all ... -rwc-spots

Hope this works out - he's a rare talent.

I wonder what argument they will use? That he would have been picked this year, but for injury?

They should bend the rules for him because of his wonderful haircut.