The Official Guitar Thread

[FujiKiwi]

How far away from a music shop / repair place are you? I’d strongly recommend taking it to someone or somewhere it could get some expert tlc.

Yeah. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and do that.

EDIT: Thanks for the advice guys. I figured out I was trying to put the nut on (ahem) sideways. Idiotic. I will just banish myself from this thread forever.

Seeing myself out.

[ASMO]

Thought i would drop this in here

[Ali Cadoo]

What wonderful tone, what tasteful playing.

Sharon is a girl’s name though. She sure has hairy knuckles for a chick.

[ASMO]

Hows this for a solo

[Knuckledragger]

Shows what you can do with an Amin scale without having to go all Steve Vai on it.

Obvs there's a bit Moore to it than that......

[Line6 HXFX]

Playing guitar is my thing, can jam along to backing tracks forever..love it..absolutely and with all my life force... gets all my creative juices flowing..listening to other people play sucks ass.
What the hell am I supposed to learn from f'king Guthrie Goven?
That I'm crap and should give up?
Know that already.

[Ali Cadoo]

Playing guitar is my thing, can jam along to backing tracks forever..love it..absolutely and with all my life force... gets all my creative juices flowing..listening to other people play sucks ass.
What the hell am I supposed to learn from f'king Guthrie Goven?
That I'm crap and should give up?
Know that already.

How are you getting on with those caprices?

edit: have recently started to investigate Allan Holdsworth. That guy is nucking futs.

[Line6 HXFX]

Playing guitar is my thing, can jam along to backing tracks forever..love it..absolutely and with all my life force... gets all my creative juices flowing..listening to other people play sucks ass.
What the hell am I supposed to learn from f'king Guthrie Goven?
That I'm crap and should give up?
Know that already.

How are you getting on with those caprices?

edit: have recently started to investigate Allan Holdsworth. That guy is nucking futs.

Holdsworth is truly insane. Vai said upon Holdsworths death that he can understand when he hears someone play, and what they are doing, what modes or theory they use (even if he cannot play the song, he understands its mechanics). But with Holdworth he had absolutely no clue what the hell he was doing . He was a complete mystery and in a world of his own. Just out there. Also (I learned recently) if Alan heard someone had learned and performed a song of his (no matter how famous ut was), he would never play it again.
A true English genius.
Paganini is hard (understatement of the year) my picking is awful now, think I had times when I think I have mastered it..but always struggle to expand on it and take it to areas it needs to go... Thought I could conquer paganini by sheer force of will, I could get some serious levels of autistic focus going when I wanted to learn a song back in the day...just sheer determination and commitment.. but with Pags..when four note arpeggios start on the bottom G note on the E string and go up to the top C note on the top E string and you have to hit two notes in between going up and back down, in the blink of a eye.. you really start to think maybe a short little necked violin is the right tool for this shite.

I really try not to play other peoples songs (anyone can play anything if they put their minds to it) now and think of the guitar as just a means of personal expression and for improvisation.
I try to get as much fucking fun out of it as possible.

[Ali Cadoo]

Well, none of that makes me think that you are a crap musician! It sounds like you have exactly the right attitude - it should always be fun!

I watched a Jason Becker vid once - never again. At least with Holdsworth I have no idea at all, with Becker's classical stuff I kind of understand what he's doing, I just can't understand how he plays it so well.

Surprise - and yet rewarding - youtube video of the day is Michael Batio teaching jazz progressions. Some very nice stuff in there!

[Line6 HXFX]

Well, none of that makes me think that you are a crap musician! It sounds like you have exactly the right attitude - it should always be fun!

I watched a Jason Becker vid once - never again. At least with Holdsworth I have no idea at all, with Becker's classical stuff I kind of understand what he's doing, I just can't understand how he plays it so well.

Surprise - and yet rewarding - youtube video of the day is Michael Batio teaching jazz progressions. Some very nice stuff in there!

Read somewhere Yngwie Malmstien quit school at 6 years old and just played guitar. His parents said OK, if that is what you want to do, and you are sure about it, go for it.
That is the advantage a lot if these young kids had.

(Sweedish Accent).."You go do you Yngwie..whilst others have to deal with having their heads shoved down toilets learning crap eight hours a day will never use, and then get to leave the local comp with crushing social anxiety and depression, you use those vibrant, firing young brain cells and pluck away on this fifties strat 10 hours a day for 15 years".

We can't compete mun.
They have us by 15 of the best years of their lives.

[Line6 HXFX]

Want a terrific lockdown type, guitar jam for half an hour, discovered this. Should keep you entertained for a bit.
Key of F# Minor, You can lean on A major a lot.

[tabascoboy]

Talking of Allan Holdsworth

[A6D6E6]

Talking of Allan Holdsworth

Firmly in the "just because you can, it doesn't mean you should" category for me. Maybe after a few more board migrations I will become A9D13E#11b13 and will get it. Until then it is just discordant noise to me.

[Line6 HXFX]

All music is discordant noise until you get a ear for it.

Rick Beato talked a lot about how exotic jazz chords, that sounded jarring initially, sound just dull and normal after just a few weeks of familiarity and exposure to them and how he craved even more jarring chords.

Though this is a guy who jumps straight in and talks about dissonances on page 10 of his (admittedly brilliant) music theory book, just to warm us up to the whole concept.

An isolated tone, when sounded, generates a series of overtones
which form intervals that relate to each other by mathematical ratio.
Generally, in the tempered scale, consonant intervals are considered
to be those formed from the lower tones of the overtone series, the
upper overtones producing dissonant intervals. In practice, these
tone-to-tone relationships have been reduced by the use of the
chromatic tempered scale from an unlimited number of intervals to
twelve intervals, which retain the characteristis of their counterparts
in the overtone series. Their textural characteristics are as follows:
perfect ODh and octave - open consonances
major and minor thirds and sixths - soD consonances
minor seconds and major sevenths - sharp dissonances
major seconds and minor sevenths - mild dissonances
perfect fourth - consonant or dissonant
tritone (augmented fourth or diminished ODh) - ambiguous, can
be either neutral or restless

[Line6 HXFX]

Dave Simpson being interviewed at Andertons.
Really admire this bloke.

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[Ali Cadoo]

Awesome. Only seen the first 5 mins of the Dave Simpson interview and he's grabbed my attention. I will certainly be checking the rest of that out...

[tabascoboy]

All music is discordant noise until you get a ear for it.

Rick Beato talked a lot about how exotic jazz chords, that sounded jarring initially, sound just dull and normal after just a few weeks of familiarity and exposure to them and how he craved even more jarring chords.

Though this is a guy who jumps straight in and talks about dissonances on page 10 of his (admittedly brilliant) music theory book, just to warm us up to the whole concept.

Nah musicians should just stick to the circle of fifths and common chords, keep it nice an' predictable

Anyway, probably thanks to this thread I had a weird dream last night I was on some sort of old tanker and turned a corner and found a small guitar shop tucked away with load of Martin acoustics. Of course I felt the need to pick one up and show my chronic lack of ability to even put two chords together...

[Line6 HXFX]

Awesome. Only seen the first 5 mins of the Dave Simpson interview and he's grabbed my attention. I will certainly be checking the rest of that out...

Dave is something else, one crazy hillarious, knowledgeable character.
Love his YouTube channel
Dave Simpson.
Guy deserves great things.

[A6D6E6]

All music is discordant noise until you get a ear for it.

Rick Beato talked a lot about how exotic jazz chords, that sounded jarring initially, sound just dull and normal after just a few weeks of familiarity and exposure to them and how he craved even more jarring chords.

Though this is a guy who jumps straight in and talks about dissonances on page 10 of his (admittedly brilliant) music theory book, just to warm us up to the whole concept.

Nah musicians should just stick to the circle of fifths and common chords, keep it nice an' predictable

Anyway, probably thanks to this thread I had a weird dream last night I was on some sort of old tanker and turned a corner and found a small guitar shop tucked away with load of Martin acoustics. Of course I felt the need to pick one up and show my chronic lack of ability to even put two chords together...

It isn't about being predictable, it is about music that I enjoy and which gives me an emotional response. Jazz just doesn't do it for me. Just like the trend for female singers who sing what sounds more like a warm up exercise than a tune doesn't or how the typical output of Shrapnel Records didn't in the late 80s.

[tabascoboy]

Fair enough, I have no liking for female singers who warble up and down octaves every other line, and tend not to listen to guitar "showcase" artists like Steve Vai for example.

[Line6 HXFX]

I had to learn a bit of jazz for my music course, back in ze day, because apparently killing yourself and learning to perform Satch Boogie, Surfing With an Alien, Flying in a Blue Dream, Crushing Day, Always with You Always with me, For the Love of God, Liberty and Sisters (note perfectly) barely gets you a BTEC National Diploma in Performing arts.



Damn you Leighton!!!

[Ali Cadoo]

I had to learn a bit of jazz for my music course, back in ze day, because apparently killing yourself and learning to perform Satch Boogie, Surfing With an Alien, Flying in a Blue Dream, Crushing Day, Always with You Always with me, For the Love of God, Liberty and Sisters (note perfectly) barely gets you a BTEC National Diploma in Performing arts.



Damn you Leighton!!!

That sounds about right to me. Imagine trying to get qualification as a chef and thinking that being able to cook 8 different meals in two different styles would see you through.

[Knuckledragger]

Dave Simpson being interviewed at Andertons.
Really admire this bloke.

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Grimsby lad (well, Louth, but close enough) - ‘Nuff said.....

[A6D6E6]

Dave Simpson being interviewed at Andertons.
Really admire this bloke.

[media] [/media]

Grimsby lad (well, Louth, but close enough) - ‘Nuff said.....

I'm sure people from Louth would agree entirely that they in fact come from Grimsby!

[Knuckledragger]

They typically aspire to such greatness.

[Line6 HXFX]

I had to learn a bit of jazz for my music course, back in ze day, because apparently killing yourself and learning to perform Satch Boogie, Surfing With an Alien, Flying in a Blue Dream, Crushing Day, Always with You Always with me, For the Love of God, Liberty and Sisters (note perfectly) barely gets you a BTEC National Diploma in Performing arts.



Damn you Leighton!!!

That sounds about right to me. Imagine trying to get qualification as a chef and thinking that being able to cook 8 different meals in two different styles would see you through.

Hah, I'm not arguing, his thinking was that I know all these impressive songs, had all the technical ability* (*read just lots and lots of sheer autistic determination) but had zero knowledge of the scales or chords that went into making them and no real interest in learning them.
My general thinking was violinists in orchestras etc don't have to know how to write Beethoven or Mozart stuff, they just knock it out, and everyone is impressed, claps and showers them in cash and pussy, and the same was true for guitar playing, and actually, for lots of guitarists it is.

But hey ho, it was all getting me laid at the time and I thought I was brilliant.

Ironically I left with grade 5 music theory from other classes.

He just couldn't get his uninspiring Jazz chords into my brain.

Afterwards I learned a lot of the modes etc from Frank Gambali books and tapes.

Talk about eating way too much Creme Brulee.

[Ali Cadoo]

Fair play! I love Sisters, btw - that could be my fave Vai track. So gentle and intricate and melodic, just a perfect bit of music, I think. Slows down a bit... then goes again! It's got all the tricks. I mean, if he had been REALLY clever, he would have added a harmonic squeal dive-bomb in there for comedy value, but who am I to critique a master.

[Line6 HXFX]

Fair play! I love Sisters, btw - that could be my fave Vai track. So gentle and intricate and melodic, just a perfect bit of music, I think. Slows down a bit... then goes again! It's got all the tricks. I mean, if he had been REALLY clever, he would have added a harmonic squeal dive-bomb in there for comedy value, but who am I to critique a master.

Performed it (and many others) in the Angel in Neath in about 1993. I remember practicing it specifically in the morning in my mates flat ( bedroom) accoustically , before I had to go on, and it was just one in a set list of about six extremely hard songs, that I had ready.
Half the class were of course running sweepstake to see which one I was going to fuck up. hah.
Loved Neath. The people there were just the best.
Had it all at the time, a fantastic music and performing arts, theatre scene there and terrific music teachers.
Funny enough I went back in about 1995 and I had a girl come up in a pub, and say to me "you are that guy who performed sisters a few years ago". She didn't remember the other five awesome gawdamned songs I learned.
My Mrs was well impressed though that someone remembered me perform, three years prior.

[Ali Cadoo]

I really like the little guitar shop (‘The Music Shop’) in the covered market in Neath, always get my strings and bits and pieces from there now - would be cheaper to order them online but I’d rather support a local business.

[Line6 HXFX]

I really like the little guitar shop (‘The Music Shop’) in the covered market in Neath, always get my strings and bits and pieces from there now - would be cheaper to order them online but I’d rather support a local business.

Can't remember the name of the music shop, that was across from the park, on the corner think he has turned it into a music academy (says my Facebook).
Haven't been down to Neath in decades.
The Mrs won't take me or let because apparently I instantly turn into a mad student, and it all goes a bit Will Ferrell.

[Fat Old Git]

I recently got Bias FX 2 which allows you to mimic different amp and pedal set ups. Really loving it. Going to take me ages to work ti all out properly. But even just playing with the presets, of which there are many, is good fun. So many tones!

[tabascoboy]

But does it go up to 11?

[A6D6E6]

But does it go up to 11?

Avid have you covered Nigel.

https://www.avid.com/plugins/eleven

[Fat Old Git]

But does it go up to 11?

Actually, for some of the amp set up it does! I was well chuffed when I noticed. :)

[Ali Cadoo]

Julian Bream chucks a six.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53777949

Sad news. Loved this, tho:

"I devoted my life to music for a reason, and the reason wasn't because I wanted to get on or make money, but to try to fulfil myself and also to give people pleasure. That's been my credo."

[Mr Bungle]

Julian Bream chucks a six.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53777949

Sad news. Loved this, tho:

"I devoted my life to music for a reason, and the reason wasn't because I wanted to get on or make money, but to try to fulfil myself and also to give people pleasure. That's been my credo."

Thanks for posting, I didn’t know much about him. Remarkable player. RIP.





“Would you like to see my lute?”

[Fat Old Git]

But does it go up to 11?

Actually, for some of the amp set up it does! I was well chuffed when I noticed. :)

Knew I had a pic somewhere.

[Ovals]

Planning to thin out the herd a bit this year - so I decided to get all my axes together for a group photo

[Tichtheid]

Planning to thin out the herd a bit this year - so I decided to get all my axes together for a group photo

Q - How many guitars do you need?

A - just one more

[Tichtheid]

I've made a couple of acoustics guitars under the tutelage of a good luthier. I've also got several in various stages of construction, but I need to find some workshop space in order to complete them and make more.