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Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
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Will he wear a mask on the flight home :think:.
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Lets the games begin - the tennis I mean, now that the sideshow is over.
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Normal service is resumed?
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Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am
Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.
A shambolic process but the right outcome imho.

As if Djokovic ever gave an actual fuck about Australia beyond winning another title.
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am
Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
This article was posted on the other site. It's an interesting look into the Australian Psyche and why their public opinion was overwhelmingly against him. Which also meant there was no way the government would allow him to stay.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/12/opin ... index.html
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am
Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am
Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am

Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
As far as I can ascertain, she has been treated pretty badly and should be allowed back to compete.
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am

Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.

The one I feel for is the Czech girl. Was allowed in, and then because of political interference and trying to be consistent was then booted.
An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
Did Voracova lie on her visa application then?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Wasn’t she in the same boat as him? Vaccine exemption due to having recently had it?

So she got what she deserved too, no?



Admittedly she wasn’t reported as failing isolate like him. But that was non Aus jurisdiction, and certainly wasn’t an item when he first had his visa cancelled.
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Biffer wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:01 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am

An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
Did Voracova lie on her visa application then?
The Spain/other countries thing??
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Biffer wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:01 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:48 am
Kiwias wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:32 am

An utter shit show by the various groups involved but it all comes back to Novax. He got what he deserved.
Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
Did Voracova lie on her visa application then?
That had nothing to do with the decision to deport him
Travel form error not being argued by government
Last week, much was made of Djokovic's error on his travel entry form into Australia. But the government is not using that error in its legal argument.

The error has "neutral" bearing on whether he's a risk to Australian public, the government has said.

In his letter to Djokovic cancelling his visa, Immigration Minister Alex Hawke said he accepted the tennis player's explanation for the false declaration. Djokovic said his agent had made the mistake on the paperwork and hadn't checked travel details with him.

"Mr Djokovic should have been more careful," Mr Hawke said.
It was all about protecting the health of the Australian public from the disease ridden Djokovic and to prevent him inciting the 5% of unvaccinated Australias. Arguably the same reasoning could apply to Voracova
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Calculon wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:12 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:01 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:48 am

Assume you feel the same about Voracova?
Did Voracova lie on her visa application then?
That had nothing to do with the decision to deport him
Travel form error not being argued by government
Last week, much was made of Djokovic's error on his travel entry form into Australia. But the government is not using that error in its legal argument.

The error has "neutral" bearing on whether he's a risk to Australian public, the government has said.

In his letter to Djokovic cancelling his visa, Immigration Minister Alex Hawke said he accepted the tennis player's explanation for the false declaration. Djokovic said his agent had made the mistake on the paperwork and hadn't checked travel details with him.

"Mr Djokovic should have been more careful," Mr Hawke said.
It was all about protecting the health of the Australian public from the disease ridden Djokovic and to prevent him inciting the 5% of unvaccinated Australias. Arguably the same reasoning could apply to Voracova
My query is why she was not informed that she had the right to appeal the initial ruling.
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The defending women's champ, Naomi Osaka, has started her tournament well.
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Kiwias wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:36 am The defending women's champ, Naomi Osaka, has started her tournament well.
That's the Naomi Osaka who Djokovic criticised for not following the rules.

Karma is a bitch, huh.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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The Andy Murray Rollercoaster continues - typical Murray 5 setter - but a good win against a world top 20 player

He is going to need a few shorter matches if he wants to get to the second week
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Dogbert wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:27 am The Andy Murray Rollercoaster continues - typical Murray 5 setter - but a good win against a world top 20 player

He is going to need a few shorter matches if he wants to get to the second week
Good win for Andy. Looked fairly sharp. Pleased to see him get the win. :thumbup:
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I see Raducanu has won. Nice consistent match 6-0, 2-6, 6-1.
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You have to feel for Murray. Injury struck him down just as he finally got to No 1 and looked as if he might nick a couple of more Grand Slams. U Unfortunately watching him now is sad. Scrambling around tournaments with wild cards and getting the odd win against nobodies cannot be good for his mental or physical health. He has a young family at home and a great legacy, he should surely just give it up.
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Blackmac wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:00 pm You have to feel for Murray. Injury struck him down just as he finally got to No 1 and looked as if he might nick a couple of more Grand Slams. U Unfortunately watching him now is sad. Scrambling around tournaments with wild cards and getting the odd win against nobodies cannot be good for his mental or physical health. He has a young family at home and a great legacy, he should surely just give it up.
I blame Federer. Making players think they can compete till they are 40... :grin:
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Blackmac wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:00 pm You have to feel for Murray. Injury struck him down just as he finally got to No 1 and looked as if he might nick a couple of more Grand Slams. U Unfortunately watching him now is sad. Scrambling around tournaments with wild cards and getting the odd win against nobodies cannot be good for his mental or physical health. He has a young family at home and a great legacy, he should surely just give it up.
I guess, as come across in the docu, he just bloody loves it. But agree, he really needs to find something else.
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Blackmac wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:00 pm You have to feel for Murray. Injury struck him down just as he finally got to No 1 and looked as if he might nick a couple of more Grand Slams. U Unfortunately watching him now is sad. Scrambling around tournaments with wild cards and getting the odd win against nobodies cannot be good for his mental or physical health. He has a young family at home and a great legacy, he should surely just give it up.
The thing which really separated him from peers was his drive and determination, which is probably a negative at this stage - can't give it up. Although I find his style ungainly I've been increasingly impressed by his character (and strength of character), standing up for women in tennis etc, but think this obstinacy isn't always beneficial.

He's had hip injuries that cause him pain and which required pretty serious surgery, time to put feet up unless he can develop a less impactful style - which is unlikely to be successful as he's not the shotmaker others at his level are. His style was never going to give him as long a shelf life as someone like Federer - although Federer has had to cope with slight loss of his agile quickness, his game is much more about shotmaking than Murray's chase it down and counterpunch.

On that note - Federer is 40. Blimey.
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inactionman wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:23 pm
Blackmac wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:00 pm You have to feel for Murray. Injury struck him down just as he finally got to No 1 and looked as if he might nick a couple of more Grand Slams. U Unfortunately watching him now is sad. Scrambling around tournaments with wild cards and getting the odd win against nobodies cannot be good for his mental or physical health. He has a young family at home and a great legacy, he should surely just give it up.
The thing which really separated him from peers was his drive and determination, which is probably a negative at this stage - can't give it up. Although I find his style ungainly I've been increasingly impressed by his character (and strength of character), standing up for women in tennis etc, but think this obstinacy isn't always beneficial.

He's had hip injuries that cause him pain and which required pretty serious surgery, time to put feet up unless he can develop a less impactful style - which is unlikely to be successful as he's not the shotmaker others at his level are. His style was never going to give him as long a shelf life as someone like Federer - although Federer has had to cope with slight loss of his agile quickness, his game is much more about shotmaking than Murray's chase it down and counterpunch.

On that note - Federer is 40. Blimey.
Good post Inaction. Agree with it all, especially first paragraph. I have always been a Murray 'disliker'. Just didn't like his play, mannerisms, fucking mother, his appearance and the way he carried himself. But as the last year or so has gone on I've found myself sympathising with him a bit, and watching a bit more of his matches. I think this one last year playing a full schedule might be it, but only his body will tell him. As said above, he just seems to love it.

Pity ER lost last night. Am hoping she can settle in to the tour a bit, but she will certainly have a drop before she finds her correct ranking. Suspect between 40-50 at years end - which is fine I think.
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Gumboot wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:23 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:56 am
Quade wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:18 am Novax confirmed gone. Total clusterfuck though - no one has come out of this looking good.
Very much this.

What a shambles by immigration, and the political interference has been ridiculous. He’s now a martyr.
A shambolic process but the right outcome imho.

As if Djokovic ever gave an actual fuck about Australia beyond winning another title.
well he apparently gave a substantial sum to help those affected by fire...
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The dream last 16 matchup of Barty and Osaka is now, well, a dream. Good win by an in form Anisamova. Wonder if she can now take Barty out.
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Nadal levels it! 5th set decider.
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Nadal holds to maintain the break. 2 games away from 21....
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2 points away....
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hold the phone, break point on offer.
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taken! 5-5
oh my nerves!
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3 match points. shirley now?
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Done. 21! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Must admit I always wanted Fed to have the most but Nadal seems the better alternative than anyone else. Fair play to him.
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That’s an amazing result. After going to bed after the first set I wasn’t expecting to wake up to anything other than a Medvedev straight sets win.
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