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does anyone have any knowledge/inkling as to how French skiing might be affected this season with Covid restrictions?
Im pondering a trip in the spring but have my concerns about value for money
I fear is there are certain distancing restrictions in place then queues for lifts will be horrific and trying to get a table for an evening Fondue would be tres difficile
does anyone have any knowledge/inkling as to how French skiing might be affected this season with Covid restrictions?
Im pondering a trip in the spring but have my concerns about value for money
I fear is there are certain distancing restrictions in place then queues for lifts will be horrific and trying to get a table for an evening Fondue would be tres difficile
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It's a massive unknown really, isn't it and there is a bit of a stigma seeing as skiing in Italy was one of the early vectors for covid in Europe in the first place.
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I'm planning on a trip to France or Switzerland in early January. Not decided on a resort yet, might leave it to close to the time to see about snow conditions etc. We're self-catering, so looking at Airbnb.
As for restrictions in the resort and on ski lifts, as noted it's a big unknown. Hopefully, as the week we're going is not peak holiday, any impacts will be minimised.
I will report back!
As for restrictions in the resort and on ski lifts, as noted it's a big unknown. Hopefully, as the week we're going is not peak holiday, any impacts will be minimised.
I will report back!
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Anything can change if it goes over 200cases/100K, so far it’s fine. Reservations are feeling up fast.colonel wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:17 am A question
does anyone have any knowledge/inkling as to how French skiing might be affected this season with Covid restrictions?
Im pondering a trip in the spring but have my concerns about value for money
I fear is there are certain distancing restrictions in place then queues for lifts will be horrific and trying to get a table for an evening Fondue would be tres difficile
Masks are mandatory at the lifts and queues. Restaurants and hotels will ask for the “ pass sanitaire”
An one assumes any attempt by the "i dont need a mask"/"im not one of the sheeple"/"I just want someone in morrisons to tut at me" Mask avoiding crowd will simply be refused access to the lift?
Wont stop the insufferable fuckers taking them off once they get going of course but its something
Wont stop the insufferable fuckers taking them off once they get going of course but its something
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Yes to all your questions, after people do whatever they want at their own risks (fined, punched or been through of the cliff)
Seriously I won’t worry too much about masks, just have your “I got the jab pass” to go in the restaurants.
Seriously I won’t worry too much about masks, just have your “I got the jab pass” to go in the restaurants.
Lift guys have their ways of making their point! Best I saw was when a bunch of large, middle aged and obviously well to do German twats pushed through queue, shoving kids out of the way, to get on an 8 man bubble in Val Gardena. Crowd were shouting at them and the lift guys did feck all .... until the Germans got on the bubble then the Italian lift guys ran up and took all their skis off the rack on the outside of the door just as the bubble went off up the hill. Crowd cheered and Italians took a bow! The Germans were well pissed off. Brilliant.colonel wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:02 pm An one assumes any attempt by the "i dont need a mask"/"im not one of the sheeple"/"I just want someone in morrisons to tut at me" Mask avoiding crowd will simply be refused access to the lift?
Wont stop the insufferable fuckers taking them off once they get going of course but its something
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Merci. Is the "pass sanitaire" a specific French document/app, or could I use the NHS Scotland vaccine passport app?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:40 pmAnything can change if it goes over 200cases/100K, so far it’s fine. Reservations are feeling up fast.colonel wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:17 am A question
does anyone have any knowledge/inkling as to how French skiing might be affected this season with Covid restrictions?
Im pondering a trip in the spring but have my concerns about value for money
I fear is there are certain distancing restrictions in place then queues for lifts will be horrific and trying to get a table for an evening Fondue would be tres difficile
Masks are mandatory at the lifts and queues. Restaurants and hotels will ask for the “ pass sanitaire”
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I’ll have the same problem than you as I’m in the US, this might helpS/Lt_Phillips wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:45 am
Merci. Is the "pass sanitaire" a specific French document/app, or could I use the NHS Scotland vaccine passport app?
https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-a ... -in-the-UK
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We're booked for Val Thorens late Feb. Hopefully we're still in the trough post efforts to get the current infection spike down and restrictions won't be too horrific.
They'll try and keep things open as much as they can after a season and a half of missed income.
They'll try and keep things open as much as they can after a season and a half of missed income.
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Cheers. That page suggests the NHS Scotland vaccine passport app isn't accepted (whilst the English one is), so I'll get paper copies to take along as well.Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:30 pmI’ll have the same problem than you as I’m in the US, this might helpS/Lt_Phillips wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:45 am
Merci. Is the "pass sanitaire" a specific French document/app, or could I use the NHS Scotland vaccine passport app?
https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-a ... -in-the-UK
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Guaranteed snow and great skiing - remember watching buses in convoy trying to get through to Val Thorens in blizzard conditions in early March. There is a really nice run just over in the next valley - Mont Vallon. Bubble up and a couple of nice long reds down.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:01 pm We're booked for Val Thorens late Feb. Hopefully we're still in the trough post efforts to get the current infection spike down and restrictions won't be too horrific.
They'll try and keep things open as much as they can after a season and a half of missed income.
I'm off here with this lot at beginning of March. Self Catering and self drive
https://www.snowtrex.co.uk/france/valme ... UUQAvD_BwE
Very keenly priced and seems a pretty decent ski area that doesn't get too busy from what I can see with good snow record too, Booked with them last year and couldn't go and got money back instantly. Only 15 mins from the motorway too
The French are keen to have according to the Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/ ... sh-skiers/
I think the main problem (as it so often is) is teenagers and their vaccinations.
But March is still a long way off (as I have got to lose 2 stone and get fitter)
https://www.snowtrex.co.uk/france/valme ... UUQAvD_BwE
Very keenly priced and seems a pretty decent ski area that doesn't get too busy from what I can see with good snow record too, Booked with them last year and couldn't go and got money back instantly. Only 15 mins from the motorway too
The French are keen to have according to the Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/ ... sh-skiers/
I think the main problem (as it so often is) is teenagers and their vaccinations.
But March is still a long way off (as I have got to lose 2 stone and get fitter)
A week in Val Thorens was my last act in the before times. Within 4 hours of leaving the resort France closed all the reorts and we isolated for a week for safeties sake. Within that week we were put into lockdown.dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:51 amGuaranteed snow and great skiing - remember watching buses in convoy trying to get through to Val Thorens in blizzard conditions in early March. There is a really nice run just over in the next valley - Mont Vallon. Bubble up and a couple of nice long reds down.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:01 pm We're booked for Val Thorens late Feb. Hopefully we're still in the trough post efforts to get the current infection spike down and restrictions won't be too horrific.
They'll try and keep things open as much as they can after a season and a half of missed income.
Completely agree with the above, amazing skiing and perfect snow. (Im an intermediate skiier having retired from the plank 4 seasons ago, blues and reds as a rule)
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Aye, Val Thorens is great. We go there every year. Love Mont Vallon, but the wee duaghter needs one more year of snowboard lessons so we're sticking to a VT pass rather than 3V for the last time. As an intermediate skier myself, the Combes du Caron is utterly amazing if it's been groomed. It's a black, but as 'easy' as black gets - very wide all the way down after the initial 'jump in the pool' section. Although nothing beats jumping the wee ridges on the blue Moiraine slope for me.colonel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:57 amA week in Val Thorens was my last act in the before times. Within 4 hours of leaving the resort France closed all the reorts and we isolated for a week for safeties sake. Within that week we were put into lockdown.dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:51 amGuaranteed snow and great skiing - remember watching buses in convoy trying to get through to Val Thorens in blizzard conditions in early March. There is a really nice run just over in the next valley - Mont Vallon. Bubble up and a couple of nice long reds down.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:01 pm We're booked for Val Thorens late Feb. Hopefully we're still in the trough post efforts to get the current infection spike down and restrictions won't be too horrific.
They'll try and keep things open as much as they can after a season and a half of missed income.
Completely agree with the above, amazing skiing and perfect snow. (Im an intermediate skiier having retired from the plank 4 seasons ago, blues and reds as a rule)
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Just back from a week in Switzerland - the first for almost 3 years!
We thought long and hard about this, and had the trip been a few weeks later and Omicron wasn't hitting its peak, it would have been an easier decision. However, daughter's uni term dates meant we couldn't delay, unfortunately. But we decided that as we were self-catering, and hiring a car, we could try and minimise mixing with other people and hence the risk of getting infected. Type 2R moisture-repellent masks for the airports and flights and lots of hand sanitiser.
Originally, we had hoped to go to France (out of habit, mostly), but due to France being closed to Brits and having flights booked to Geneva, we decided to try Switzerland instead. So we decided to try Grimentz in the Valais canton. The ski area wasn't huge, but together with Zinal and the Saint-Luc/Chandolin area down the valley, it was just about big enough to keep us entertained for the week. The village was beautiful, but with little in the way of apres-ski - which of course was fine as we were trying to avoid crowds. So no visits to any bars (not that there were many to choose from)!
We got lucky with the snow - it had been very warm the previous week, but the temperature dropped a few days before we left, and it snowed all day on our first day on the pistes. It stayed cold so for the next few days we had perfect packed powder on the pistes (I'm not good enough to do off-piste, but apparently there wasn't really enough snow for good off-piste). Towards the end of the week, there was some boiler-plate appearing.
Testing & navigating the flights/airports was all very smooth, though we gave ourselves plenty of time. Randox LFT kits were accepted with no problem by Easyjet to get out there, and the Swiss Passenger Locator Form was easy. Nicola followed Boris and changed the testing requirement for re-entry to Scotland a couple of days before we left, and were able to cancel the day 2 PCR tests (Eurofins drive-in at Livingston) and re-purpose the Randox LFTs we were going to take with us for fit-to-fly and used them as day 2 LFTs instead. The UK PLF is a pain in the arse compared with the Swiss one. We took paper copies of the test certificates and PLFs on the way out, but had to rely on phones for the UK PLFs on the way home - no problems.
The NHS Scotland covid passport app was accepted when we went out for dinner (once) and had lunch in a mountain cafe (day 1 when snowing). One thing to be aware of is that it doesn't work without a data connection, and with roaming charges in Switzerland, I needed to rely on wifi for connection to make the app work. Also, when you switch to the 'International Travel' view in the app, it gives you a different QR code for each dose or PCR result. Only the second dose (not the booster) QR code was accepted.
Daily LFTs since returning and no positives yet, so it seems like we've not picked it up. The biggest concern was getting a positive result out there and having to isolate - so the work laptop came with me! Despite the extra faff with testing and PLFs, it was still worth going, and I'm glad we didn't postpone until next year. It was sooo good to be back on skis!
We thought long and hard about this, and had the trip been a few weeks later and Omicron wasn't hitting its peak, it would have been an easier decision. However, daughter's uni term dates meant we couldn't delay, unfortunately. But we decided that as we were self-catering, and hiring a car, we could try and minimise mixing with other people and hence the risk of getting infected. Type 2R moisture-repellent masks for the airports and flights and lots of hand sanitiser.
Originally, we had hoped to go to France (out of habit, mostly), but due to France being closed to Brits and having flights booked to Geneva, we decided to try Switzerland instead. So we decided to try Grimentz in the Valais canton. The ski area wasn't huge, but together with Zinal and the Saint-Luc/Chandolin area down the valley, it was just about big enough to keep us entertained for the week. The village was beautiful, but with little in the way of apres-ski - which of course was fine as we were trying to avoid crowds. So no visits to any bars (not that there were many to choose from)!
We got lucky with the snow - it had been very warm the previous week, but the temperature dropped a few days before we left, and it snowed all day on our first day on the pistes. It stayed cold so for the next few days we had perfect packed powder on the pistes (I'm not good enough to do off-piste, but apparently there wasn't really enough snow for good off-piste). Towards the end of the week, there was some boiler-plate appearing.
Testing & navigating the flights/airports was all very smooth, though we gave ourselves plenty of time. Randox LFT kits were accepted with no problem by Easyjet to get out there, and the Swiss Passenger Locator Form was easy. Nicola followed Boris and changed the testing requirement for re-entry to Scotland a couple of days before we left, and were able to cancel the day 2 PCR tests (Eurofins drive-in at Livingston) and re-purpose the Randox LFTs we were going to take with us for fit-to-fly and used them as day 2 LFTs instead. The UK PLF is a pain in the arse compared with the Swiss one. We took paper copies of the test certificates and PLFs on the way out, but had to rely on phones for the UK PLFs on the way home - no problems.
The NHS Scotland covid passport app was accepted when we went out for dinner (once) and had lunch in a mountain cafe (day 1 when snowing). One thing to be aware of is that it doesn't work without a data connection, and with roaming charges in Switzerland, I needed to rely on wifi for connection to make the app work. Also, when you switch to the 'International Travel' view in the app, it gives you a different QR code for each dose or PCR result. Only the second dose (not the booster) QR code was accepted.
Daily LFTs since returning and no positives yet, so it seems like we've not picked it up. The biggest concern was getting a positive result out there and having to isolate - so the work laptop came with me! Despite the extra faff with testing and PLFs, it was still worth going, and I'm glad we didn't postpone until next year. It was sooo good to be back on skis!
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Would love to go this year but it'll have to wait till next year. Consoled myself buying a ski jacket that I'll only be able to wear twice a year in Ireland.
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They weren't restricting numbers on the lifts in Switzerland last week, but as it was a quiet week anyway the chairlifts and gondolas almost always had spaces on them. And no queues. Half-term week could be another matter!
Masks were required and the lifties were politely reminding people, though a buff pulled up over the nose was sufficient.
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You'd only set off the metal detectors anyway.
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I drove up to Val d'Isère last weekend to visit some friends, I live in Nice and the resort was pretty quiet. Masks are required everywhere except on the slopes and COVID certs were required everywhere I went for the 48 hours i was there. I noticed a few queues at shuttlebus locations but nothing major.
One occasion to drop my pants
This (in Switzerland) although in Italy theoretically you are meant to have an FFP2 mask?? (we didn't) on first day religiously showed covid QR code then just ignored them completely (as everyone else was)S/Lt_Phillips wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:58 amThey weren't restricting numbers on the lifts in Switzerland last week, but as it was a quiet week anyway the chairlifts and gondolas almost always had spaces on them. And no queues. Half-term week could be another matter!
Masks were required and the lifties were politely reminding people, though a buff pulled up over the nose was sufficient.
A hard lifeThe sun god wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:01 pmI drove up to Val d'Isère last weekend to visit some friends, I live in Nice and the resort was pretty quiet. Masks are required everywhere except on the slopes and COVID certs were required everywhere I went for the 48 hours i was there. I noticed a few queues at shuttlebus locations but nothing major.
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Is any old face covering allowed? Or do I need one of these fancy ones with a filter?
Fuck all snow in a lot of places ... I am very close to cancelling my trip (Jura mountains have lost all snow coverage and temps are high).
La plagne looks to have most of the piste open expect shit snow as the forecast is mild weather.