Yeah the RGs is already confirmed.
Did a search and this is what I found for the summer 3 games against Argentina unless it will be A team
Would be incredible. A couple of years too early for me unfortunately
Might still be an option tbf. Only did a couple of random searches in June.
A South American journalist only mentioned it yesterday as a rumour he'd heard so wouldn't be confirmed anywhere. Seems very random if it is made up, but it could be. Or there could be discussions but it go no further.westport wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:20 amDid a search and this is what I found for the summer 3 games against Argentina unless it will be A team
Date Fixtures and Venue
24 May 2022 Spain vs Classic All Blacks
Wanda Metropolitano, Madrid
July 02, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 02, 2022 Fiji vs England
Olympic Park Stadium, Melbourne, Australia
July 09, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 09, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 09, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 09, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 09, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 09, 2022 Canada vs Italy
TBA
July 16, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 16, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 16, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 16, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 16, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 16, 2022 United States vs Italy
TBA
July 23, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 23, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 23, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 23, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 23, 2022 Argentina vs Italy
TBA
Thanks for clearing that upBig D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:21 amA South American journalist only mentioned it yesterday as a rumour he'd heard so wouldn't be confirmed anywhere. Seems very random if it is made up, but it could be. Or there could be discussions but it go no further.westport wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:20 amDid a search and this is what I found for the summer 3 games against Argentina unless it will be A team
Date Fixtures and Venue
24 May 2022 Spain vs Classic All Blacks
Wanda Metropolitano, Madrid
July 02, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 02, 2022 Fiji vs England
Olympic Park Stadium, Melbourne, Australia
July 09, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 09, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 09, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 09, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 09, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 09, 2022 Canada vs Italy
TBA
July 16, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 16, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 16, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 16, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 16, 2022 Argentina vs Scotland
TBA
July 16, 2022 United States vs Italy
TBA
July 23, 2022 New Zealand vs Ireland
TBA
July 23, 2022 Japan vs France
TBA
July 23, 2022 Australia vs England
TBA
July 23, 2022 South Africa vs Wales
TBA
July 23, 2022 Argentina vs Italy
TBA
Wouldn't expect it to be a capped game if it happened though. I wounder if we make it a "Scotland XV" rather than A, if Dempsey can play?
Depends. This would be quite a big deal to South American rugby if the rumours are true. So there would be lots of interested parties in this.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:38 pm Would a Scotland A team get sent to Santiago? Flights and accom would be very expensive for the SRU unless world rugby pay?
That's true, it'd be a shame if Chile don't get to play us in country though. And I'd expect it would be a slightly larger/weaker squad.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:46 pmDepends. This would be quite a big deal to South American rugby if the rumours are true. So there would be lots of interested parties in this.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:38 pm Would a Scotland A team get sent to Santiago? Flights and accom would be very expensive for the SRU unless world rugby pay?
The "Rugby Chile" twitter that seems to have started this don't say where the game is to be played. Could be in Argentina the week before test 1.
Wouldn't need many more players added to the squad. If the Lions are left at home then there'll be a few guys who are "A team level" in the squad anyway. The likes of Hogg haven't had much time off since rugby restarted after lockdown. He may need to be saved from himself.
I agree, but I guess it is more a risk going into a WC with no alternative. We are going to need to start developing the back up plan soon. We've seen Seymour retire, Maitland be semi retired from internationals and Kinghorn moved position. They must have some back up plan... maybe.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:11 pmThat's true, it'd be a shame if Chile don't get to play us in country though. And I'd expect it would be a slightly larger/weaker squad.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:46 pmDepends. This would be quite a big deal to South American rugby if the rumours are true. So there would be lots of interested parties in this.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:38 pm Would a Scotland A team get sent to Santiago? Flights and accom would be very expensive for the SRU unless world rugby pay?
The "Rugby Chile" twitter that seems to have started this don't say where the game is to be played. Could be in Argentina the week before test 1.
Wouldn't need many more players added to the squad. If the Lions are left at home then there'll be a few guys who are "A team level" in the squad anyway. The likes of Hogg haven't had much time off since rugby restarted after lockdown. He may need to be saved from himself.
The problem we currently have is absolutely no back up fullback. So whilst I agree Hogg won't play Chile... Argentina without a Hogg would be a tough old task.
Darcy Graham I guess? None of the other wings in the current squad play 15. Forbes the coming man seems to have regressed from last year. Ollie Smith had a promising appearance but will have to get ahead of McKay.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:27 pmI agree, but I guess it is more a risk going into a WC with no alternative. We are going to need to start developing the back up plan soon. We've seen Seymour retire, Maitland be semi retired from internationals and Kinghorn moved position. They must have some back up plan... maybe.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:11 pmThat's true, it'd be a shame if Chile don't get to play us in country though. And I'd expect it would be a slightly larger/weaker squad.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:46 pm
Depends. This would be quite a big deal to South American rugby if the rumours are true. So there would be lots of interested parties in this.
The "Rugby Chile" twitter that seems to have started this don't say where the game is to be played. Could be in Argentina the week before test 1.
Wouldn't need many more players added to the squad. If the Lions are left at home then there'll be a few guys who are "A team level" in the squad anyway. The likes of Hogg haven't had much time off since rugby restarted after lockdown. He may need to be saved from himself.
The problem we currently have is absolutely no back up fullback. So whilst I agree Hogg won't play Chile... Argentina without a Hogg would be a tough old task.
I think you'd simply see some positional adjustments. Darcy Graham, Ross Thompson, Stafford McDowall, Adam Hastings, Rory Hutchinson, Rufus McLean and Damien Hoyland have all played fullback before, as has Kinghorn (obviously) and there's Ollie Smith breaking through at Glasgow. I agree we don't have a top class replacement of Hogg's quality, but we are a mile away from having absolutely noone.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:27 pmI agree, but I guess it is more a risk going into a WC with no alternative. We are going to need to start developing the back up plan soon. We've seen Seymour retire, Maitland be semi retired from internationals and Kinghorn moved position. They must have some back up plan... maybe.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:11 pmThat's true, it'd be a shame if Chile don't get to play us in country though. And I'd expect it would be a slightly larger/weaker squad.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:46 pm
Depends. This would be quite a big deal to South American rugby if the rumours are true. So there would be lots of interested parties in this.
The "Rugby Chile" twitter that seems to have started this don't say where the game is to be played. Could be in Argentina the week before test 1.
Wouldn't need many more players added to the squad. If the Lions are left at home then there'll be a few guys who are "A team level" in the squad anyway. The likes of Hogg haven't had much time off since rugby restarted after lockdown. He may need to be saved from himself.
The problem we currently have is absolutely no back up fullback. So whilst I agree Hogg won't play Chile... Argentina without a Hogg would be a tough old task.
I would say there is a slightly skewed narrative of the game developing in some aspects. While England absolutely dominated territory (around 40:60), possession was much more even (46:54 / 15.34m:18.08m) and time in the opposition 22 was very low for both teams (54s:2m13s). The main thing for me was that the game was largely played either side of half way and predominantly (regardless of who had the ball) in Scotland's half (57% of our possession was in our own half).world class phil wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:59 pm Saturday was my third Calcutta cup match at Murrayfield (2008 Jason White tackle on Sackey), (2010 Shite dull draw) and my last 6 nations match was the 2013 ROG officially past it match vs Ireland. Guess I'm a good luck charm since Scotland haven't lost a match vs England whilst I've been in live attendance... I've since had a couple of rewatches as my seat was in the corner of the 2nd tier of the West stand so good for the tactical overview but a bit far out to pick out what was happening at ground level.
Forwards put in a stout resolute defence but it was really Taylor and Z Fagerson (who luckily managed his aggression well) smashing the English carriers back in 1-on-1 tackles. Gray and Gilchrist did a decent enough soaking job but Skinner was outstanding in his impact off the bench running over Ford and getting the crucial lineout steal when England were pressing after the neck roll on Curry put an end to Scotland's most promising multi-phase attack. I've been watching Bradbury at Edinburgh home games but he wasn't physically impactful enough and will need to start stronger if he gets chosen to replace Ritchie.
It really is astonishing how little England managed to do with the ball, it seemed like the end game was just pinning Scotland back in their 22 which was managed well in the first 65 minutes but they only bothered to go through multiple phases when within 10-15 metres of the tryline. Although Scotland don't have a mental hoodoo with Eddie Jones' coached England the way they do with Wales in Cardiff it was an outstanding effort. Ireland showed how their tight 5 dominance really made it easy for their backs and never let Wales in the game. The Welsh will undoubtedly be better and we've all seen numerous false dawns. Still can't wait for the showdown in Cardiff on Saturday.
Welcome back to the outside world, I’ve somehow avoided Covid jail while all around me have done time in it recently, I shall be walking around in a bubble between now and my trip up for the France gameYr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:49 pmI was stuck in Covid jail! I’m out today though and the lateral flow was finally negative. Looking forward to Parc Eirias on FridaySomersetJock wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:20 am Well I enjoyed that a lot more this morning than I did watching it live. My reaction after the match was that we had somehow scraped a win having been battered. Am now of the thinking that it was a very impressive win based on fantastic defence. And very good line breaks leading to points on the rare occasions we got some possession.
Watched it in a pub surrounded by Wales fans, they made a Hell of a lot more noise for our game than they did for their own
My plan is to get the 18:20 train from Pen. Irritatingly not direct and have to change in Junction, but should be there by about 18:45. Which should give us time for a jar. I will have my son with me, but he’s 17.5 and looks older, so it shouldn’t be an issue.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:22 pmWelcome back to the outside world, I’ve somehow avoided Covid jail while all around me have done time in it recently, I shall be walking around in a bubble between now and my trip up for the France gameYr Alban wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:49 pmI was stuck in Covid jail! I’m out today though and the lateral flow was finally negative. Looking forward to Parc Eirias on FridaySomersetJock wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:20 am Well I enjoyed that a lot more this morning than I did watching it live. My reaction after the match was that we had somehow scraped a win having been battered. Am now of the thinking that it was a very impressive win based on fantastic defence. And very good line breaks leading to points on the rare occasions we got some possession.
Watched it in a pub surrounded by Wales fans, they made a Hell of a lot more noise for our game than they did for their own
Am looking forward to Friday as well, you want to meet at Parc Eirias or is a pint or two in the Bay before kickoff an idea ?
Was poorly worded on my part, should have been no clear and obvious no.2. There is noone else with recent game time at the position or performing at international level in that position. We have 7 guys above who probably aren't full backs in the first instance (or second), a guy who hasn't played there for a while and focusing on 10 and and a kid breaking though.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:57 pmI think you'd simply see some positional adjustments. Darcy Graham, Ross Thompson, Stafford McDowall, Adam Hastings, Rory Hutchinson, Rufus McLean and Damien Hoyland have all played fullback before, as has Kinghorn (obviously) and there's Ollie Smith breaking through at Glasgow. I agree we don't have a top class replacement of Hogg's quality, but we are a mile away from having absolutely noone.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:27 pmI agree, but I guess it is more a risk going into a WC with no alternative. We are going to need to start developing the back up plan soon. We've seen Seymour retire, Maitland be semi retired from internationals and Kinghorn moved position. They must have some back up plan... maybe.I like neeps wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:11 pm
That's true, it'd be a shame if Chile don't get to play us in country though. And I'd expect it would be a slightly larger/weaker squad.
The problem we currently have is absolutely no back up fullback. So whilst I agree Hogg won't play Chile... Argentina without a Hogg would be a tough old task.
This may have gotten lost in the weekend celebrations but seriously you can't just post that and not give a hint.Punter15 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:19 pm All rugby is currently on hold - I’m watching it with my eldest while helping him sort out the new flat he and his girlfriend are renting. The owner and previous tenant is a former MP of reasonably high profile, it’s furnished and he has left quite a lot of stuff here that we have to move around.
We just found a big bag full of butt plugs and prostate massagers.
I already tried to ferret something out of him with no luck.Hellraiser wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:56 pmThis may have gotten lost in the weekend celebrations but seriously you can't just post that and not give a hint.Punter15 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:19 pm All rugby is currently on hold - I’m watching it with my eldest while helping him sort out the new flat he and his girlfriend are renting. The owner and previous tenant is a former MP of reasonably high profile, it’s furnished and he has left quite a lot of stuff here that we have to move around.
We just found a big bag full of butt plugs and prostate massagers.
It does happen but it is always weird when a huge amount of time has passed between offences. Definitely feels like that law needs a tweak.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 pm Whilst I'm here, I was catching up with the game today, I hadn't seen the full replay yet. There was something that I thought was bonkers at the time and it still seems that way. The Scottish pack was penalised for not being steady at a scrum on 5 minutes, this was a free kick.
On 55 mins the entire Scottish front row is replaced and at their first scrum they are penalised with a penalty for not being steady, the ref said this was escalated from a free kick because they had already been warned at that 5th minute scrum.
I don't think I've ever seen that carried over like that before, and especially with a completely new front row.
I'm feeling like absolute shit from Saturday but not testing positive for Covid. Apparently the bloke next to me who I spent all day with might have bronchitis though...
Just to the pub
I think it would be OK if the ref had warned the new front row but I guess it could fairly be argued Scotland should have made each other aware.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:35 amIt does happen but it is always weird when a huge amount of time has passed between offences. Definitely feels like that law needs a tweak.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 pm Whilst I'm here, I was catching up with the game today, I hadn't seen the full replay yet. There was something that I thought was bonkers at the time and it still seems that way. The Scottish pack was penalised for not being steady at a scrum on 5 minutes, this was a free kick.
On 55 mins the entire Scottish front row is replaced and at their first scrum they are penalised with a penalty for not being steady, the ref said this was escalated from a free kick because they had already been warned at that 5th minute scrum.
I don't think I've ever seen that carried over like that before, and especially with a completely new front row.
Was nice to see someone other than Kyle Sinckler doing this though!
Yeah, would absolutely be unfair on the front rows to not be aware of the current situation and that should be on the ref.Big D wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:10 pmI think it would be OK if the ref had warned the new front row but I guess it could fairly be argued Scotland should have made each other aware.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:35 amIt does happen but it is always weird when a huge amount of time has passed between offences. Definitely feels like that law needs a tweak.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 pm Whilst I'm here, I was catching up with the game today, I hadn't seen the full replay yet. There was something that I thought was bonkers at the time and it still seems that way. The Scottish pack was penalised for not being steady at a scrum on 5 minutes, this was a free kick.
On 55 mins the entire Scottish front row is replaced and at their first scrum they are penalised with a penalty for not being steady, the ref said this was escalated from a free kick because they had already been warned at that 5th minute scrum.
I don't think I've ever seen that carried over like that before, and especially with a completely new front row.
Was nice to see someone other than Kyle Sinckler doing this though!
Watching it back Nel v Marler was a right good tussle.
They'll have trained on Monday.
Team will be picked on Monday I reckon, Scotland have to release non picked English based players on Tuesday night.
Good points, chaps..I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:00 pmTeam will be picked on Monday I reckon, Scotland have to release non picked English based players on Tuesday night.
https://www.theoffsideline.com/ben-white/
On another note Ben White was involved in our exiles program.
