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EnergiseR wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:17 pm
Jock42 wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:13 pm Do you ever do interval or low hr runs?
Do a bit of mixed intervals but the oul dog is a German Pointer so wants me to keep up in the rest sections. I am a big fan of the quarter mile repeats. Never do low hr runs as it seems like cheating. I reckon the long slow runs might be what is missing alright. I just struggle with the jogging along bit
Yeah I really struggle to do low hr, attempted a few over the last couple of months. The change of gait fucks me up and it bores me a bit too. Maybe I'm too impatient fir if is a better description.
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Yeah it's a real skill. I belted past a lad who I know is quicker than me yesterday. The dog and I saw him in the distance and as I got nearer I tried to slow down but then I just took off and about a hundred yards past him the shame set in. I blamed the dog, it was mainly her fault, and promised not to do it again.
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EnergiseR wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:20 pm Lads back running a few weeks and struggling to get the time to move significantly downwards. Any tips? Not doing any longer runs these days due to life so just the 5-6kms a day with the dog. Have plateaued at 22.35-45 for 5 km and run that consistently. Plenty of up and down hills so not taking it easy on myself but can't seem to push it on.
As above, definitely mix it up. Maybe throw in some hill sprints one day, as well as another for strength training. The best thing I ever did for my running was introduce a day of strength and core exercises. I'm by no means toned, but the extra strength in my core really helps in the latter part of my runs and I now regularly do negative splits.
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assfly wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:54 am
EnergiseR wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:20 pm Lads back running a few weeks and struggling to get the time to move significantly downwards. Any tips? Not doing any longer runs these days due to life so just the 5-6kms a day with the dog. Have plateaued at 22.35-45 for 5 km and run that consistently. Plenty of up and down hills so not taking it easy on myself but can't seem to push it on.
As above, definitely mix it up. Maybe throw in some hill sprints one day, as well as another for strength training. The best thing I ever did for my running was introduce a day of strength and core exercises. I'm by no means toned, but the extra strength in my core really helps in the latter part of my runs and I now regularly do negative splits.
Was talking to a proper runner mate today over a coffee and he agrees. Also reckons I need to run with people periodically and do more quarter mile repeats in each session than I currently am. Aim to increase from the current 6 to 10/12 in the next few months.
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Ok got a longer run in and some hill work and took off last night in the pissing rain and did it in 21.18 and then tonight in 21.25 so that appears to be where I am now at. Felt very good during it and definitely have another minute or so in me I reckon. Break the 20 mins some time next year and I am pretty sure that qualifies me for the Olympics
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Special Olympics :thumbup:
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:49 pm Special Olympics :thumbup:
I worked at the Special Olympics in 2003. You know those absolutely gorgeous women in the likes of the Athens Olympics who stand either side of where the athletes enter the stadium and smile vacantly. I was one of them only Irish stylie
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Went for a run yesterday for the first time in about 6 weeks.

I was pretty pleased with the time and how I felt after but during the evening my ankles tightened up and I was barely able to sleep last night. Today I'm hobbling around in decent pain.

Never had this before to any extent, not heavier than I was for my last few runs. Conditions were pretty slippery and wondering if that was a factor.

Anyway, certainly seems like I need to do some ankle mobility exercises, anyone got any tips?
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Slick wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:55 pm Went for a run yesterday for the first time in about 6 weeks.

I was pretty pleased with the time and how I felt after but during the evening my ankles tightened up and I was barely able to sleep last night. Today I'm hobbling around in decent pain.

Never had this before to any extent, not heavier than I was for my last few runs. Conditions were pretty slippery and wondering if that was a factor.

Anyway, certainly seems like I need to do some ankle mobility exercises, anyone got any tips?
I find that coming back from a break the first tun feels good, a bit tired for the second and even worse for the third, and then restart the build up. So don’t get disheartened.
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Also coming off the holiday break. Ran 2x today 2 x 30 minutes 8 hours apart.

Will walk for an hour tomorrow then run in the evening. I find walking very good for strength training.
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robmatic wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:31 am
assfly wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:17 pm I've been watching various documentaries on ultra-marathons.

The Barkley Marathons must be one of the most difficult on earth, both physically and mentally.
It's definitely crazy.

Look at how long it takes quite strong athletes to complete one lap. Nine hours for approx. marathon distance when they are fresh? The course must be brutal.
I have just watched this documentary and found it fascinating. All I have done are ultras on the road and would never have had the guts to even consider this. Or Marathon des Sables. I’m about to watch Running for Good about this.

Are there any other interesting documentaries out there?
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I was rather disappointed in Running for Good. She is a tremendous runner, but there were far too many references as to the difficulties she faces - they must have brought it up at least within every five minutes. It was mentioned that over a thousand starters for the race, but all focus was on one runner so I have no idea what the drop out rate was.
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Last ran mid November, starting to run again is the hard part tho.
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Fangle wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:33 pm Are there any other interesting documentaries out there?
I quite enjoyed this one:

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Thanks Assfly. Of course in SA I knew a lot of runners who ran the 100 mile races. In the 1960s I seconded my younger brother for one on the track - 400 laps which made it easy for us but must have driven the runners nuts. He took just over 14 hours which was a good time for those days. And he also ran 23 Comrades - three more than me.
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Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:16 pm Thanks Assfly. Of course in SA I knew a lot of runners who ran the 100 mile races. In the 1960s I seconded my younger brother for one on the track - 400 laps which made it easy for us but must have driven the runners nuts. He took just over 14 hours which was a good time for those days. And he also ran 23 Comrades - three more than me.
Bloody hell. Considering how much of an accomplishment finishing one Comrades is, I can't imaging doing 23. What was your training like?

I've decided to start training for my first 50km trail in June/July. Knocked out my first 20km in 6 months on Saturday with relative ease, so planning to gradually increase my way there.
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Compared to most people, Comrades was easy for me. At college I ran track and cross country, and was always a runner and on the skinny side, so was easily bullied into trying the longer distance. Unlike you I didn’t have the number of years of not running so we can’t compare our experiences.

As I got older I only started training in January, three times a week of a slow three miles. After a few weeks I would start to extend to five miles each and four runs a week with a ten miler on the weekend. But the most important was to run within yourself and listen to the body. Walk if necessary.
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My first Comrades at about the 40 mile mark. I’m the tall one.
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You ran with Liege Boulle?
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average joe wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:34 am You ran with Liege Boulle?
He told us to call him Mr Boulle, and was a grumpy old sod. Nobody ever seemed to run with him for long. He wasn’t in that group in 1964. We were mainly first timers with one guy, Rodgers, motivating us.
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Fangle wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:35 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:34 am You ran with Liege Boulle?
He told us to call him Mr Boulle, and was a grumpy old sod. Nobody ever seemed to run with him for long. He wasn’t in that group in 1964. We were mainly first timers with one guy, Rodgers, motivating us.
I believe he went out the way he come in.
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They stopped him running for a couple of years after he turned 70, but he came back for at least one after that. But what a difference from the great Wally Hayward.
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I meant to say he died with nothing on his name. I also heard Wallace and Boulle had a bit of a special relationship.
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average joe wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:23 pm I meant to say he died with nothing on his name. I also heard Wallace and Boulle had a bit of a special relationship.
How do you mean “nothing on his name”?
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Fangle wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:43 pm
average joe wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:23 pm I meant to say he died with nothing on his name. I also heard Wallace and Boulle had a bit of a special relationship.
How do you mean “nothing on his name”?
as in poor, impoverished, pennyless.
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Poor bugger.
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Just got back on the road myself after swelling up to 96 kg. Next 2 months will be tough. I really miss weekend races. Comrades is cancelled this year. :cry:
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Rude awakening yesterday after 3 weeks off due to snow and lazyness.

Thought I'd got over that first few runs hump, but no, back to square one!
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Fangle wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:08 pm Compared to most people, Comrades was easy for me. At college I ran track and cross country, and was always a runner and on the skinny side, so was easily bullied into trying the longer distance. Unlike you I didn’t have the number of years of not running so we can’t compare our experiences.

As I got older I only started training in January, three times a week of a slow three miles. After a few weeks I would start to extend to five miles each and four runs a week with a ten miler on the weekend. But the most important was to run within yourself and listen to the body. Walk if necessary.


That's very good advice.
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