There has got to be a Channel 5 show in seeing Rishi, after he's fired perhaps, and Matt Hancock actually jumping sharks. Nadine Dorris has never had an issue taking extended time off her job to go on TV to promote herself so she's in. JRM possibly denies sharks exist having been 'lied' to about the number of years sharks have swum in earth's waters, so he could be a difficult contestant to get, but Chris Grayling might need the work along with Dom Cummings and Sir Gavin of Williamsonsockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:41 pmfor carrying on in this direction.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:25 pmRishi as the new Fonzee is that? Maybe, he is tiny but at best it's a paltry pompadour, and his boss is the one more likely to bang on about happy dayssockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:38 pm
Iannucci famously ended it by saying stating the current state of politics was getting beyond satirisation. We've jumped several further sharks since then.
If Rishi can't be The Fonz on the basis of his 'do, then Boris is definitely out.
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What a contemtible cunt of a man. The BBC link has a video embedded which shows him at his finest
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61029969
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... ll-wrongA former cabinet minister has challenged the Grenfell inquiry not to waste his time while giving evidence, before getting the death toll from the disaster wrong.
Lord Pickles, who served as secretary of state at the then Department for Communities and Local Government between 2010 and 2015, sparked anger after he advised the inquiry’s senior counsel to “use your time wisely” as he had an extremely busy day.
Pickles said: “By all means sir, feel free to ask me as many questions as you like, but could I respectfully remind you that you did promise that we would be away this morning and I have changed my schedules to fit this in.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61029969
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I think there's some slightly muddled criticism here and in other comments - we have energy issues because for over 20 years + we've decided it's politically inconvenient to build power plants. If they can get the ball rolling on the new ones we need, great. I wouldn't want to criticise a government for thinking long term for a change!dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:55 pmEasiest thing in the world to announce new nuclear power plants - done in safe knowledge that none will even get off the initial planning stage before next election so they can't be held to account for any non delivery but the Tories will now use this as a mantra for having 'got power fixed' or some such inane slogan. Announcing nuclear far easier to do than something that actually had to be delivered in the remaining time this clusterfuck of a Gov has, such as introducing and delivering home insulation to help those who can't afford bills and can be done relatively quickly and started almost immediately. Problem for the gov is they haven't any money left as a result of profligate spending in pandemic plus impact of Brexit so they can't actually come forward with any power strategy that they actually have to deliver plus their oil/gas big business buddies will get pissed off if they start trying to limit demand side of the equation. Hence the Blonde Bumblecunt's strategy is all about confirming existing plans, focusing on supply side and longer term. It does nothing for short-medium term.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:32 pmWhat was announced today was new reactors at existing plants I think? Which is probably deliverable.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:25 pm
As you say, no cosplay opportunities, but would demand proper funding, & planning.
It's also the only one that could actually deliver, or more likely, fail horribly, before the next GE, the rest of it is all more jam tomorrow.
If the Tories are running scared over the nimbys freaking out over onshore wind farms; how the hell are they going to sell them on a bunch of new Nuclear plants ???
The NIMBY issue is astonishing and it's hard to look at British politics the same again once you grasp it IMO - NIMBYism is paralysing a government with an 80 seat majority years out from a general election, crippling chances at growth, affordable energy, housing etc, not to mention storing up massive problems for the Tory party in years to come. The worst part is that all polling suggests onshore wind is actually really popular - there's just a small minority who hate them who organise against it.
Home insulation is important but plugs a gap until we can get new power plants online.
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Funnily enough I was in a meeting yesterday discussing Small Modular and Advanced Modular nuclear power - they reckon that if they get the go ahead they could get some up and running by 2026Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:22 amI think there's some slightly muddled criticism here and in other comments - we have energy issues because for over 20 years + we've decided it's politically inconvenient to build power plants. If they can get the ball rolling on the new ones we need, great. I wouldn't want to criticise a government for thinking long term for a change!dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:55 pmEasiest thing in the world to announce new nuclear power plants - done in safe knowledge that none will even get off the initial planning stage before next election so they can't be held to account for any non delivery but the Tories will now use this as a mantra for having 'got power fixed' or some such inane slogan. Announcing nuclear far easier to do than something that actually had to be delivered in the remaining time this clusterfuck of a Gov has, such as introducing and delivering home insulation to help those who can't afford bills and can be done relatively quickly and started almost immediately. Problem for the gov is they haven't any money left as a result of profligate spending in pandemic plus impact of Brexit so they can't actually come forward with any power strategy that they actually have to deliver plus their oil/gas big business buddies will get pissed off if they start trying to limit demand side of the equation. Hence the Blonde Bumblecunt's strategy is all about confirming existing plans, focusing on supply side and longer term. It does nothing for short-medium term.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:32 pm
What was announced today was new reactors at existing plants I think? Which is probably deliverable.
The NIMBY issue is astonishing and it's hard to look at British politics the same again once you grasp it IMO - NIMBYism is paralysing a government with an 80 seat majority years out from a general election, crippling chances at growth, affordable energy, housing etc, not to mention storing up massive problems for the Tory party in years to come. The worst part is that all polling suggests onshore wind is actually really popular - there's just a small minority who hate them who organise against it.
Home insulation is important but plugs a gap until we can get new power plants online.
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Give his references to time I would assume he'd consented to being there, it's certainly the norm, and this likely was arranged in advance with him receiving some assurances on time and the panel are supposed to proceed with fairness for all those involved, and he likely has that in mind. And whilst it's not a good look he wasn't that strident in his objection that perhaps the panel isn't proceeding in timely fashion, and he has then anyway proceeded to cancel his later diary appointments, and apologised.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:56 am What a contemtible cunt of a man. The BBC link has a video embedded which shows him at his finesthttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... ll-wrongA former cabinet minister has challenged the Grenfell inquiry not to waste his time while giving evidence, before getting the death toll from the disaster wrong.
Lord Pickles, who served as secretary of state at the then Department for Communities and Local Government between 2010 and 2015, sparked anger after he advised the inquiry’s senior counsel to “use your time wisely” as he had an extremely busy day.
Pickles said: “By all means sir, feel free to ask me as many questions as you like, but could I respectfully remind you that you did promise that we would be away this morning and I have changed my schedules to fit this in.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61029969
There's plenty of genuine stuff to be outraged by in all this, the short term annoyance of a witness with proceedings (which happens all the time) we can surely just let slide
So, not tomorrow, then?Slick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:09 amFunnily enough I was in a meeting yesterday discussing Small Modular and Advanced Modular nuclear power - they reckon that if they get the go ahead they could get some up and running by 2026Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:22 amI think there's some slightly muddled criticism here and in other comments - we have energy issues because for over 20 years + we've decided it's politically inconvenient to build power plants. If they can get the ball rolling on the new ones we need, great. I wouldn't want to criticise a government for thinking long term for a change!dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:55 pm
Easiest thing in the world to announce new nuclear power plants - done in safe knowledge that none will even get off the initial planning stage before next election so they can't be held to account for any non delivery but the Tories will now use this as a mantra for having 'got power fixed' or some such inane slogan. Announcing nuclear far easier to do than something that actually had to be delivered in the remaining time this clusterfuck of a Gov has, such as introducing and delivering home insulation to help those who can't afford bills and can be done relatively quickly and started almost immediately. Problem for the gov is they haven't any money left as a result of profligate spending in pandemic plus impact of Brexit so they can't actually come forward with any power strategy that they actually have to deliver plus their oil/gas big business buddies will get pissed off if they start trying to limit demand side of the equation. Hence the Blonde Bumblecunt's strategy is all about confirming existing plans, focusing on supply side and longer term. It does nothing for short-medium term.
Home insulation is important but plugs a gap until we can get new power plants online.
That surprises me; I thought small modular systems could be set up in a matter of weeks.
It's his utterly tone-deaf pomposity that is reprehensible.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:31 amGive his references to time I would assume he'd consented to being there, it's certainly the norm, and this likely was arranged in advance with him receiving some assurances on time and the panel are supposed to proceed with fairness for all those involved, and he likely has that in mind. And whilst it's not a good look he wasn't that strident in his objection that perhaps the panel isn't proceeding in timely fashion, and he has then anyway proceeded to cancel his later diary appointments, and apologised.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:56 am What a contemtible cunt of a man. The BBC link has a video embedded which shows him at his finesthttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... ll-wrongA former cabinet minister has challenged the Grenfell inquiry not to waste his time while giving evidence, before getting the death toll from the disaster wrong.
Lord Pickles, who served as secretary of state at the then Department for Communities and Local Government between 2010 and 2015, sparked anger after he advised the inquiry’s senior counsel to “use your time wisely” as he had an extremely busy day.
Pickles said: “By all means sir, feel free to ask me as many questions as you like, but could I respectfully remind you that you did promise that we would be away this morning and I have changed my schedules to fit this in.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61029969
There's plenty of genuine stuff to be outraged by in all this, the short term annoyance of a witness with proceedings (which happens all the time) we can surely just let slide
He was also Housing and Building minister under Cameron and was therefore responsible for a lot of building deregulation at that time
To be fair to Kwarteng (Huh!!!!) in an interview yesterday he quoted a medium term of 3 to 6 years for this.Rinkals wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:06 pmSo, not tomorrow, then?Slick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:09 amFunnily enough I was in a meeting yesterday discussing Small Modular and Advanced Modular nuclear power - they reckon that if they get the go ahead they could get some up and running by 2026Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:22 am
I think there's some slightly muddled criticism here and in other comments - we have energy issues because for over 20 years + we've decided it's politically inconvenient to build power plants. If they can get the ball rolling on the new ones we need, great. I wouldn't want to criticise a government for thinking long term for a change!
Home insulation is important but plugs a gap until we can get new power plants online.
That surprises me; I thought small modular systems could be set up in a matter of weeks.
Though we all know just how on time major govrnment projects come in on!
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That would be quite something if they could, fingers crossed...Slick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:09 amFunnily enough I was in a meeting yesterday discussing Small Modular and Advanced Modular nuclear power - they reckon that if they get the go ahead they could get some up and running by 2026Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:22 amI think there's some slightly muddled criticism here and in other comments - we have energy issues because for over 20 years + we've decided it's politically inconvenient to build power plants. If they can get the ball rolling on the new ones we need, great. I wouldn't want to criticise a government for thinking long term for a change!dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:55 pm
Easiest thing in the world to announce new nuclear power plants - done in safe knowledge that none will even get off the initial planning stage before next election so they can't be held to account for any non delivery but the Tories will now use this as a mantra for having 'got power fixed' or some such inane slogan. Announcing nuclear far easier to do than something that actually had to be delivered in the remaining time this clusterfuck of a Gov has, such as introducing and delivering home insulation to help those who can't afford bills and can be done relatively quickly and started almost immediately. Problem for the gov is they haven't any money left as a result of profligate spending in pandemic plus impact of Brexit so they can't actually come forward with any power strategy that they actually have to deliver plus their oil/gas big business buddies will get pissed off if they start trying to limit demand side of the equation. Hence the Blonde Bumblecunt's strategy is all about confirming existing plans, focusing on supply side and longer term. It does nothing for short-medium term.
Home insulation is important but plugs a gap until we can get new power plants online.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Up and running by 2026? if you were talking to RR add at least 2yearsSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:23 pmTo be fair to Kwarteng (Huh!!!!) in an interview yesterday he quoted a medium term of 3 to 6 years for this.
Though we all know just how on time major govrnment projects come in on!
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It's not a good look and I agree there are serious questions on building standards as it pertains to Grenfell and wider that need to be addressed. But he wasn't that bad in the objection he raised (and I don't know how slow/behind they were in saying that), I've heard plenty worse, and he retracted, amended his schedule and apologised to the person in question and panel anyway. Put another way, his pomposity would have to be an awful lot worse before I'd even consider it, keeping the focus on the regs or lack of seems much more sensibleSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:19 pmIt's his utterly tone-deaf pomposity that is reprehensible.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:31 amGive his references to time I would assume he'd consented to being there, it's certainly the norm, and this likely was arranged in advance with him receiving some assurances on time and the panel are supposed to proceed with fairness for all those involved, and he likely has that in mind. And whilst it's not a good look he wasn't that strident in his objection that perhaps the panel isn't proceeding in timely fashion, and he has then anyway proceeded to cancel his later diary appointments, and apologised.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:56 am What a contemtible cunt of a man. The BBC link has a video embedded which shows him at his finest
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... ll-wrong
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61029969
There's plenty of genuine stuff to be outraged by in all this, the short term annoyance of a witness with proceedings (which happens all the time) we can surely just let slide
He was also Housing and Building minister under Cameron and was therefore responsible for a lot of building deregulation at that time
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Who is leaking against Sunak? Is it No.10 to engineer a Chancellor who'll sign off on anything Boris the Builder wants? Or is Sunak leaking against himself having realised that he's now unlikely to be able to take the top job and he's making the play of I'm a millionaire get me out of here?
Or it's on behalf of whoever wants Liz Truss to be PM.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:28 pm Who is leaking against Sunak? Is it No.10 to engineer a Chancellor who'll sign off on anything Boris the Builder wants? Or is Sunak leaking against himself having realised that he's now unlikely to be able to take the top job and he's making the play of I'm a millionaire get me out of here?
He wasn't complaining that it was taking too long, because it was about half way through proceedings and he had no way of knowing how many questions he was going to be asked. It was during a period of questioning that he clearly didn't like - it absolutely sounds like "I have better things to do so don't waste my time" on such a crucial topic. It's selfish, self-centered, utterly tone deaf, and appallingly ill-judged. Add on his fuckups re: the victims in his statements, and his potential culpability and it's not something that should be handwaved away. He acted like a cunt and given the position he's in it's worth pointing that out.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:55 pmIt's not a good look and I agree there are serious questions on building standards as it pertains to Grenfell and wider that need to be addressed. But he wasn't that bad in the objection he raised (and I don't know how slow/behind they were in saying that), I've heard plenty worse, and he retracted, amended his schedule and apologised to the person in question and panel anyway. Put another way, his pomposity would have to be an awful lot worse before I'd even consider it, keeping the focus on the regs or lack of seems much more sensibleSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:19 pmIt's his utterly tone-deaf pomposity that is reprehensible.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:31 am
Give his references to time I would assume he'd consented to being there, it's certainly the norm, and this likely was arranged in advance with him receiving some assurances on time and the panel are supposed to proceed with fairness for all those involved, and he likely has that in mind. And whilst it's not a good look he wasn't that strident in his objection that perhaps the panel isn't proceeding in timely fashion, and he has then anyway proceeded to cancel his later diary appointments, and apologised.
There's plenty of genuine stuff to be outraged by in all this, the short term annoyance of a witness with proceedings (which happens all the time) we can surely just let slide
He was also Housing and Building minister under Cameron and was therefore responsible for a lot of building deregulation at that time
There are such people?robmatic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:38 pmOr it's on behalf of whoever wants Liz Truss to be PM.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:28 pm Who is leaking against Sunak? Is it No.10 to engineer a Chancellor who'll sign off on anything Boris the Builder wants? Or is Sunak leaking against himself having realised that he's now unlikely to be able to take the top job and he's making the play of I'm a millionaire get me out of here?
No 10 must be the favourites. Can you imagine just how jealous the blonde slug must be of the Sunak's combined wealth
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But. But. I thought she couldn't do that, as she's an Indian citizen ...
It's the Tory specialty, & U-Turn 48 hrs too late, when the damage is already done, & others have made fools of themselves defending the indefensible
TBH, if it was the likes of Boris or Gove they would have just ignored it till the next scandal.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:40 pmBut. But. I thought she couldn't do that, as she's an Indian citizen ...
It's the Tory specialty, & U-Turn 48 hrs too late, when the damage is already done, & others have made fools of themselves defending the indefensible
Rishi obviously still has ambitions and cares about his popularity.
Though if he wants to be prime minister of this country, maybe he should care a bit more about the economy and financial health of its population.
Over the hills and far away........
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aren't most of the current rishi stories being started by the independent.
which means it's definitely no10
which means it's definitely no10
Sunak is toast now, his brief flirtation with possible PM status has faded away and he is now nothing more than a spoilt little rich brat in short trousers. He will never now be PM and I suspect he will soon retreat back into the murky waters of international finance and IT world of his multi millionaire father-in law's businesses. His little hobby of playing politics has bitten him and his missus on the arse and he isn't happy with being held to account publicly and made to look a prat, he will take his ball away and go off in the huff.
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and while all of that is true .... he's also probably the brightest, & most capable individual at Cabinet.dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:38 pm Sunak is toast now, his brief flirtation with possible PM status has faded away and he is now nothing more than a spoilt little rich brat in short trousers. He will never now be PM and I suspect he will soon retreat back into the murky waters of international finance and IT world of his multi millionaire father-in law's businesses. His little hobby of playing politics has bitten him and his missus on the arse and he isn't happy with being held to account publicly and made to look a prat, he will take his ball away and go off in the huff.
So what do you get next ?
Chancellor Nadine Dorries !
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I know it's a low bar in this cabinet, but he's not that bright if he didn't think all of this would be be an issue at some point.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:42 pmand while all of that is true .... he's also probably the brightest, & most capable individual at Cabinet.dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:38 pm Sunak is toast now, his brief flirtation with possible PM status has faded away and he is now nothing more than a spoilt little rich brat in short trousers. He will never now be PM and I suspect he will soon retreat back into the murky waters of international finance and IT world of his multi millionaire father-in law's businesses. His little hobby of playing politics has bitten him and his missus on the arse and he isn't happy with being held to account publicly and made to look a prat, he will take his ball away and go off in the huff.
So what do you get next ?
Chancellor Nadine Dorries !
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I think he thought that he could just get away with it, like the bumblecunt has for years .....Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:51 pmI know it's a low bar in this cabinet, but he's not that bright if he didn't think all of this would be be an issue at some point.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:42 pmand while all of that is true .... he's also probably the brightest, & most capable individual at Cabinet.dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:38 pm Sunak is toast now, his brief flirtation with possible PM status has faded away and he is now nothing more than a spoilt little rich brat in short trousers. He will never now be PM and I suspect he will soon retreat back into the murky waters of international finance and IT world of his multi millionaire father-in law's businesses. His little hobby of playing politics has bitten him and his missus on the arse and he isn't happy with being held to account publicly and made to look a prat, he will take his ball away and go off in the huff.
So what do you get next ?
Chancellor Nadine Dorries !
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I suspect he thought his riches would act as a shield against public scrutiny as they have prior to becoming a Cabinet member.
Yeah, and add another two for planning permissiompetej wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:39 pmUp and running by 2026? if you were talking to RR add at least 2years
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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The previous Tory Chancellor is also a tax dodger.
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Yeah, not sure that will help the situation Rishi
Lol, like Sunk would wants this to go to Court. The Chasm between Borish and Rishi is well and true gaping.
Clearly the Tory leak machine is going to go into over drive. Istillthink that there is traction with Partygate and Dom will drop bombshell at some point.
No way has he finished with Boris. We are going to have a paralysed infighting government for years to come.
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And the rumours of domestic abuse.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:13 amWell he's probably fed up with living beside the neighbors from hell !
... I mean the Parties, & the Police are always in & out of the place
In other news Javid claimed non Dom status for years years