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sturginho wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:46 pm I love the way you think all women have the same opinion
Except for the bit where I never said that :clap:

I love the way you need to make shit up to try and score points. Jog on.
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sturginho wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:46 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:00 pm
sturginho wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:53 pm Because there are plenty of other sticks to bash the Tories with
Why be selective? these cunts need to be hit will all the sticks, all the time until they're consigned to oblivion. Picking this hill to die on is not a good start, but that dumb fuck doesnt realise women still have the vote (for now)
I love the way you think all women have the same opinion
The point is that all women have a right to their opinion, and to their own bodies.
This Tory MP is discrediting that, and should be called out for it.
Over the hills and far away........
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:29 am His argument isn't exactly that mental. I thought it was going to be something off the wall but it's just that the foetus is as valuable as the mother. Most people in the UK disagree with that but it's not a totally off the wall position to take. Anyway as noted Tory detractors don't need to tag on this shite to make a point. As an aside as abortion now becomes a worldwide battle ground the numbers will shift. Oul wans who thought they didn't care will suddenly think 'hold on I don't like immigration AND abortions'. Its inevitable
The problem for the tories is they're losing female voters at a clip. Right wing parties going very pro abortion will only end badly. It's not a vote winner
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:44 am Oh I don't think this is a short term winner. It'll just become part of the overall Conservative package. Old people can be easily manipulated into believing abortions are bad news and don't effect them. Sure in the states they advertise it: its a problem for minorities so it won't even impact on your squeaky clean grandkids
In the long term the xenophobic, Brexit-voting, 'Britannia rules the waves' pensioners will be too senile or dead to vote.
Unless their spoilt kids have inherited similar opinions it shouldn't be a longer term issue.
But then again, people....... :sad:

(ps: exaggerations for effect)
Over the hills and far away........
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Support for abortions is higher in the 65 + female bracket than women of child bearing age.

Older women can remember the consequences of a ban
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I see the Met has been placed into special measures.

I understand this will lead to them being privatised and turned into an academy.
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Raab winking at Rayner during PMQ's while berating her for being photographed at Glyndebourne drinking champagne

Pity she didn't have this comeback at the time
My advice to the deputy prime minister is to cut out the snobbery and brush up on his opera. The Marriage of Figaro is the story of a working-class woman who gets the better of a privileged but dim-witted villain. Judging by his own performance today, Dominic Raab could learn a lesson about opening up the arts to everyone, whatever their background.
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“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Well we could take to the streets to protest, except that if it makes a noise louder than 10dB we'd get arrested.

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Nicley rubber stamped and no possible conflict here. It's as if they've forgotten Owen Patterson!!!
Gavin Williamson has taken a £50,000-a-year second job as an adviser to a firm that runs private schools, university courses and education investments – less than a year after leaving the role of education secretary.

The former chief whip has taken a job as chair of the advisory board of RTC Education Ltd, which has given more than £165,000 to the Conservatives.

According to Companies House, RTC’s chairman is Maurizio Bragagni, a major Tory donor in his own right, who has hit the headlines in recent weeks over comments about sharia law that the party distanced itself from.
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This long article on the Olympic legacy project is good:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... s-sold-out

It's like a microcosm of how the Tories are governing. The profits from public goods privatised for the benefit of corporates (probably Tory donors) and foreign multi nationals and/or foreign sovereign wealth funds (probably Tory donors). Democracy not just eroded but ended if possible. Local residents/citizens excluded completely, anything from previous Labour plans designed to help them is removed. Truck loads of money thrown at architects and planners, and the result still being a mess. Boris Johnson in the middle of it all ignoring details, demanding (and getting) dictator-esque vanity projects. Some strange attempt at reliving the Thatcher era without understanding the context/ideas/failings/limitations of that time, like one of those never ending bad remakes of 1980s films, Predator 6, Ghost Busters 5, Star Wars 11. Then all the costs of this mess are heaped onto the already fucked residents/citizens, who got nothing from it.
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Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
Johnson also returns to Westminster-wide gossip about *that* Private Eye story containing lurid allegations (denied by his allies) that Playbook won’t get into while numerous readers are having their breakfasts. Finish your porridge before you run out and get a copy.
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SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
Johnson also returns to Westminster-wide gossip about *that* Private Eye story containing lurid allegations (denied by his allies) that Playbook won’t get into while numerous readers are having their breakfasts. Finish your porridge before you run out and get a copy.
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
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Brazil wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
Johnson also returns to Westminster-wide gossip about *that* Private Eye story containing lurid allegations (denied by his allies) that Playbook won’t get into while numerous readers are having their breakfasts. Finish your porridge before you run out and get a copy.
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
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If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
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sturginho wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:06 am
Brazil wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
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Brazil wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
Johnson also returns to Westminster-wide gossip about *that* Private Eye story containing lurid allegations (denied by his allies) that Playbook won’t get into while numerous readers are having their breakfasts. Finish your porridge before you run out and get a copy.
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
It does speak to BJ being confused as to what marks a work Vs party event
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:16 am If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:16 am If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
Yes, but from an employment T&Cs view, that is a cause for instant dismissal for him due to gross misconduct, probably her too.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:46 am
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:16 am If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
Yes, but from an employment T&Cs view, that is a cause for instant dismissal for him due to gross misconduct, probably her too.
MPs don't have a contract of employment which states that though. And ministers are governed by the ministerial code, and there's only one person who can authorise an investigation under the ministerial code, escapes my mind who it is for the time being....
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:16 am If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
But mad Nad will seething with envy
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sturginho wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:58 am
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:16 am If that story is true then it's yet another example of the lack of professionalism shown by BJ (oh the ironing!) and CJ

Behaving like that in the workplace should be a case of instant dismissal
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
But mad Nad will seething with envy
It may be our best hope right now that the Government implodes with in-fighting over the exclusive rights to BoJo's cock
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Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:53 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:46 am
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
Yes, but from an employment T&Cs view, that is a cause for instant dismissal for him due to gross misconduct, probably her too.
MPs don't have a contract of employment which states that though. And ministers are governed by the ministerial code, and there's only one person who can authorise an investigation under the ministerial code, escapes my mind who it is for the time being....
He could make it compulsory for ministers to receive oral sex from their aides.

"Ministerial Headcount" or some such.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:53 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:46 am
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:40 am
The BoJo fan club don't care what he does at this point
Yes, but from an employment T&Cs view, that is a cause for instant dismissal for him due to gross misconduct, probably her too.
MPs don't have a contract of employment which states that though. And ministers are governed by the ministerial code, and there's only one person who can authorise an investigation under the ministerial code, escapes my mind who it is for the time being....
I saw this exchange from the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee on Tuesday. The Committee was questioning head of the civil service and Cabinet Secretary Simon Case.

John McDonnell asked Simon Case why he hadn’t initiated a probe into the claims Boris had tried to appoint Carrie to a Foreign Office job

Case replied that “Any investigation under the ministerial code can only be authorised by the PM”.

The Committee Chair, William Wragg, responded: “Is he not keen?”

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BloJo and Princess Nut Nut, what a delightful couple..............
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_Os_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:42 am This long article on the Olympic legacy project is good:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... s-sold-out

It's like a microcosm of how the Tories are governing. The profits from public goods privatised for the benefit of corporates (probably Tory donors) and foreign multi nationals and/or foreign sovereign wealth funds (probably Tory donors). Democracy not just eroded but ended if possible. Local residents/citizens excluded completely, anything from previous Labour plans designed to help them is removed. Truck loads of money thrown at architects and planners, and the result still being a mess. Boris Johnson in the middle of it all ignoring details, demanding (and getting) dictator-esque vanity projects. Some strange attempt at reliving the Thatcher era without understanding the context/ideas/failings/limitations of that time, like one of those never ending bad remakes of 1980s films, Predator 6, Ghost Busters 5, Star Wars 11. Then all the costs of this mess are heaped onto the already fucked residents/citizens, who got nothing from it.
I often feel that the era when Thatcher and the like took over that there was things you could cut and private business were genuinely likely to be more efficient and cost effective. 40 years later I don't think that holds true at all and after all the efficiency cuts instead of being near the beginning of a game of Jenga or kerplunk you're at the point that the next removal means something falls over.
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petej wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:47 pm
_Os_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:42 am This long article on the Olympic legacy project is good:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... s-sold-out

It's like a microcosm of how the Tories are governing. The profits from public goods privatised for the benefit of corporates (probably Tory donors) and foreign multi nationals and/or foreign sovereign wealth funds (probably Tory donors). Democracy not just eroded but ended if possible. Local residents/citizens excluded completely, anything from previous Labour plans designed to help them is removed. Truck loads of money thrown at architects and planners, and the result still being a mess. Boris Johnson in the middle of it all ignoring details, demanding (and getting) dictator-esque vanity projects. Some strange attempt at reliving the Thatcher era without understanding the context/ideas/failings/limitations of that time, like one of those never ending bad remakes of 1980s films, Predator 6, Ghost Busters 5, Star Wars 11. Then all the costs of this mess are heaped onto the already fucked residents/citizens, who got nothing from it.
I often feel that the era when Thatcher and the like took over that there was things you could cut and private business were genuinely likely to be more efficient and cost effective. 40 years later I don't think that holds true at all and after all the efficiency cuts instead of being near the beginning of a game of Jenga or kerplunk you're at the point that the next removal means something falls over.
Very true.

There's a similar situation in Unionisation; where the destruction of the British motoring Industry could in part be laid at the door of the Unions; & there was definitely a need for re-balancing of power; but now that power balance will again need to be addressed, in the ago of zero-hour contracts, & large swaths of the workforce still needing to use food banks.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 pm
Soo bad its good - will annoy fans of both codes :crazy: :lol:
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 pm
Amazing, and surprised noone booed her

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I like neeps wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 pm
FFS every time she opens her mouth............she puts both feet in :crazy:
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mos_eisely_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 pm
Amazing, and surprised noone booed her

I wouldn't have expected boos, I would have expected just one voice, with a deeply northern accent, to be heard muttering 'fooks sake'
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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mos_eisely_ wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:28 pm
Amazing, and surprised noone booed her

Fuck me, it's even worse than I thought. Utterly clueless. The Spad who briefed her needs shooting
Then putting it right is just as excrutiating!!
She stated: “Like Jason Robinson I may have switched codes in my speech … Both league & union have a rich heritage in the UK. Obviously I’ve followed rugby league much less in my lifetime, but I’m looking forward to watching England (& all the home nations) in the RL World Cup this autumn.”

Dorries had added in her speech: “I have heard and I know from my limited watching that it’s an incredibly physical and sometimes brutal sport and it often ends up in a scrum, which actually reminds me very much of politics. I think we have a lot in common and given a lot of the media like to call me the prime minister’s attack dog, I wonder sometimes if I should give rugby a go.
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Well that's all of the northern Tory MPs gone :lol:
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Brazil wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
Johnson also returns to Westminster-wide gossip about *that* Private Eye story containing lurid allegations (denied by his allies) that Playbook won’t get into while numerous readers are having their breakfasts. Finish your porridge before you run out and get a copy.
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
Rumour doing the rounds it was Gavin Williamson, you know the useless one* who got a Knighthood? Can't think that the two things could possibly be linked though...

* I'm aware this doesn't much narrow the list
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:26 pm
Brazil wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:56 am Anyone read the latest Private Eye? If so, what's this all about?
From this morning's Politico London Playbook
The reason that Nut Nut didn't get the job at the FCO was because an MP walked in on her giving Johnson head in his office when he was Foreign Secretary. I'm not a fan of his, but it's brave man that would let his john thomas anywhere near those gnashers, she looks like Mr Ed.
Rumour doing the rounds it was Gavin Williamson, you know the useless one* who got a Knighthood? Can't think that the two things could possibly be linked though...

* I'm aware this doesn't much narrow the list
Seems possible. Williamson as an Ex-Chief Whip, & a creep, would know all about the Bumblecunts extra-curricular exploits, & that makes me think there was nothing accidental about him, catching them !

This is also presumably how the Princess lost her cushy git as Tory Party Head of Comms ?
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