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Where is Gove? Is he going to deliver the deathblow.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:57 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:31 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:23 am

Yeah I get that, but there are circumstances where non-involvement is also involvement. I.e. if Labour opposed a snap election, could the Queen be certain that the wish for an early election right now commands the confidence of the House?
Yes because she has to, she absolutely cannot make the decision on what might or might not win majority support of the house. Non involvement can be involvement but it would be unprecedented in her reign if she started making political decisions about elections. Just won't happen.
That's not right. There is no reason why the Queen should feel o liged to call an election to protect an individual PM who can't control the house. Or his own party. She has the power to say its not the parliament, its not the country, its you. You are my prime minister and in this situation I can dismiss you.
Logically she should be able to say that ok Johnson d”can’t command a majority in the HoC but let’s see if another Conservative could.
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ASMO wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:02 pm Gove is next, you heard it here first.
Pictured within the Palace of Westminster jsut before PMQ's but didn't take his seat
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Gove told Johnson this morning he should quit, report claims
Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary, told Boris Johnson this morning while they were preparing for PMQs that he should quit, the Mail’s John Stevens reports. In his story Stevens says:

At a meeting this morning, the Housing Secretary urged the Prime Minister to stand down.

Mr Gove helped Mr Johnson to prepare for Prime Minister’s Questions, but was noticeably absent from the frontbench as he faced MPs at noon.

Sources have told The Mail+ that beforehand the Cabinet minister told Mr Johnson he should quit.

A spokesman for Mr Gove did not dispute this.
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Five at a time now
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I wonder if Johnson wishes he’d left the job after getting Brexit done. He could have done so having achieved one of major triumphs of a post-war British government. If you’re a Remainer of course. He could be back to coining it as a writer now.
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Sadly, all these Tories who have found their principles now that their seats might be under threat and just going to install some other piece of shit to continue the horror show of their party's policies.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:07 pm Sadly, all these Tories who have found their principles now that their seats might be under threat and just going to install some other piece of shit to continue the horror show of their party's policies.
at a certain point he's going to start running out of willing replacements
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sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:15 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:07 pm Sadly, all these Tories who have found their principles now that their seats might be under threat and just going to install some other piece of shit to continue the horror show of their party's policies.
at a certain point he's going to start running out of willing replacements
He has ran out of willing replacements.
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Gove now telling Boris he has to go
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Is the Princess trying to steam the gold wallpaper off the flats walls yet ?
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sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:15 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:07 pm Sadly, all these Tories who have found their principles now that their seats might be under threat and just going to install some other piece of shit to continue the horror show of their party's policies.
at a certain point he's going to start running out of willing replacements
Hal meant the party as a whole will install someone as leader to continue the Tory horrorshow, not Boris finding new ministers.

And he's right, everyone resigning a post now will still be an MP and they are the cunts who've kept quiet until now about all sorts of scandalous behaviour centred around number 10, calmly accepted the corruption around PPE contracts and happily voted for the curtailment of protest rights etc. etc.

The Tories are rotten to the core and I worry at what might get done legislatively with a leader and cabinet not constantly putting out fires around personal conduct. They may play just nice enough to come through another election and then set to continuing to sell off public assets, personal rights and whatever else can be sacrificed on the twin altars of the market and personal gain.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:39 pm
sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:15 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:07 pm Sadly, all these Tories who have found their principles now that their seats might be under threat and just going to install some other piece of shit to continue the horror show of their party's policies.
at a certain point he's going to start running out of willing replacements
Hal meant the party as a whole will install someone as leader to continue the Tory horrorshow, not Boris finding new ministers.

And he's right, everyone resigning a post now will still be an MP and they are the cunts who've kept quiet until now about all sorts of scandalous behaviour centred around number 10, calmly accepted the corruption around PPE contracts and happily voted for the curtailment of protest rights etc. etc.

The Tories are rotten to the core and I worry at what might get done legislatively with a leader and cabinet not constantly putting out fires around personal conduct. They may play just nice enough to come through another election and then set to continuing to sell off public assets, personal rights and whatever else can be sacrificed on the twin altars of the market and personal gain.
Oh I agree 100% with this, we need the whole stinking lot of them gone
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:39 pm And he's right, everyone resigning a post now will still be an MP and they are the cunts who've kept quiet until now about all sorts of scandalous behaviour centred around number 10, calmly accepted the corruption around PPE contracts and happily voted for the curtailment of protest rights etc. etc.
+ funnelling of £billions into croney pockets over HS2 and QE Line.
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sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:39 pm
sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:15 pm

at a certain point he's going to start running out of willing replacements
Hal meant the party as a whole will install someone as leader to continue the Tory horrorshow, not Boris finding new ministers.

And he's right, everyone resigning a post now will still be an MP and they are the cunts who've kept quiet until now about all sorts of scandalous behaviour centred around number 10, calmly accepted the corruption around PPE contracts and happily voted for the curtailment of protest rights etc. etc.

The Tories are rotten to the core and I worry at what might get done legislatively with a leader and cabinet not constantly putting out fires around personal conduct. They may play just nice enough to come through another election and then set to continuing to sell off public assets, personal rights and whatever else can be sacrificed on the twin altars of the market and personal gain.
Oh I agree 100% with this, we need the whole stinking lot of them gone
It would appear that point may have been reached!!!
Conservative MPs say that they have heard from party whips that there are now no MPs prepared to fill the vacant positions from those who have resigned en masse.
One former minister who has stayed loyal to Johnson told their whip that there were absolutely no terms they were prepared to accept and said the whip had agreed with them.
Another MP said they believed that message had been conveyed in “brusque tones” to Downing Street.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:20 pm
sturginho wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:42 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:39 pm

Hal meant the party as a whole will install someone as leader to continue the Tory horrorshow, not Boris finding new ministers.

And he's right, everyone resigning a post now will still be an MP and they are the cunts who've kept quiet until now about all sorts of scandalous behaviour centred around number 10, calmly accepted the corruption around PPE contracts and happily voted for the curtailment of protest rights etc. etc.

The Tories are rotten to the core and I worry at what might get done legislatively with a leader and cabinet not constantly putting out fires around personal conduct. They may play just nice enough to come through another election and then set to continuing to sell off public assets, personal rights and whatever else can be sacrificed on the twin altars of the market and personal gain.
Oh I agree 100% with this, we need the whole stinking lot of them gone
It would appear that point may have been reached!!!
Conservative MPs say that they have heard from party whips that there are now no MPs prepared to fill the vacant positions from those who have resigned en masse.
One former minister who has stayed loyal to Johnson told their whip that there were absolutely no terms they were prepared to accept and said the whip had agreed with them.
Another MP said they believed that message had been conveyed in “brusque tones” to Downing Street.
Offer them a pay rise is the classical answer.
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All over bar the shouting

Group of ministers about to tell Boris to go - I assume they'll resign if he refuses.
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Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
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SOme talk of BJ deselcting everyone and going for a snap election - possibly the Crown could refuse this though:
The Lascelles Principles are a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom beginning in 1950, under which the Sovereign can refuse a request from the Prime Minister to dissolve Parliament if three conditions were met:

if the existing Parliament was still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job",
if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and
if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
The convention was in abeyance from 2011 to 2022, when the Sovereign's prerogative power to dissolve Parliament was removed by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011. Following passage of the Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022, which repealed the Fixed-term Parliaments Act, these principles are thought to have been revived.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascelles_Principles

His fucking ego - causing a full blown constitutional crisis just to keep himself in power.
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tc27 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
Zahawi (and Truss) better not dare - they made their brown-nosed bed, they can lie in it.

Boris going a lovely colour of puce in the committee session.
And looking a fool in his answers.
Over the hills and far away........
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tc27 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
Evidently it includes Shapps, and the Welsh and Scottish secretaries and the Chief Whip
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tc27 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
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Fat cunt thinks they voted for him to be President.
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:45 pm Hang in there Boris. Those cunts don't know how good they had it with you
The conservative party post Brexit will never unite behind any coherent political philosophy. Either you have a "star chamber" nutjob inflicting damage on the UK economy with terrible EU relations or you have someone who wants to boost the economy which necessarily involves closer relations with the EU. Neither faction can stand the other. They are screwed longterm. They can't pretend it's both anymore as the facts show it isn't.
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salanya wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:42 pm Zahawi (and Truss) better not dare - they made their brown-nosed bed, they can lie in it.
It's all about not wanting to look like they're yielding the knife, because supposedly that means you never get the top job; which is rubbish, because the Bumblecunt was front & centre in knifing May in the back.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:56 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:52 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:45 pm Hang in there Boris. Those cunts don't know how good they had it with you
The conservative party post Brexit will never unite behind any coherent political philosophy. Either you have a "star chamber" nutjob inflicting damage on the UK economy with terrible EU relations or you have someone who wants to boost the economy which necessarily involves closer relations with the EU. Neither faction can stand the other. They are screwed longterm. They can't pretend it's both anymore as the facts show it isn't.
He really was a stupid prick though all the same. The notion he was extremely bright and a great schemer behind all the bluster couldn't stand up to the scrutiny of him saying stuff like
Johnson refuses to deny reports that in 2019 he said all the sex pests were voting for him. He says he cannot recall saying that.
Yes but every single Tory MP knew he is a bad person who had zero morals and just wanted power. Every single one. He even bragged during the leadership election the sex pests backed him ffs. They voted for him because he was the only person who could on the surface unite their two incoherent policy platforms. Their next leader won't - they're screwed.
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I think we all want to see this.
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The problem with the Bumblecunt is that apart from the lying, cheating, ego, sense of entitlement, lack of morals and self awareness, he is fundamentally lazy.
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Boris must have some corpses to clear up in No. 10 - he is adamant he'll continue till 2024.

Deluded nutter.
Over the hills and far away........
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At times like this I wish bimbo was here.
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#clownfall is trending, :wave:
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I'm in parliament on Tuesday (for the prem rugby parliamentary awards I'll have you know) almost want this to drag on until then.

I'd pay a lot of money to see his face when he finally realises he's done.
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There's never a Pint of Champagne around when you need one
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:52 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:45 pm Hang in there Boris. Those cunts don't know how good they had it with you
The conservative party post Brexit will never unite behind any coherent political philosophy. Either you have a "star chamber" nutjob inflicting damage on the UK economy with terrible EU relations or you have someone who wants to boost the economy which necessarily involves closer relations with the EU. Neither faction can stand the other. They are screwed longterm. They can't pretend it's both anymore as the facts show it isn't.
The problem with the UK FPTP electoral system is that the big parties are loose alliances of factions with often completely contradictory aims, as you need to be in one of the big two to get elected. Which leads to entryism and hijacking by minorities/extremists. Under a normal European PR system, the Tories and Labour would be four or five different parties between them.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:43 pm
tc27 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
Evidently it includes Shapps, and the Welsh and Scottish secretaries and the Chief Whip
Rumour mill has Patel with them
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:18 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:43 pm
tc27 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:38 pm Delegation of cabinet ministers apprantly going in to see BJ now and convince him its over.

Apparantly includes Nadhim Zahawi :wtf: :grin:
Evidently it includes Shapps, and the Welsh and Scottish secretaries and the Chief Whip
Rumour mill has Patel with them
....and Kwarteng and Trevelyan now by the sounds of it
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The scene at No. 10

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I like neeps wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:01 pm At times like this I wish bimbo was here.
Just popped into the other place to have a look and to be fair he's anti Johnson who he reckons isn't a proper Tory.
Though he's still arguing with everyone else on the thread :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:49 pm Fat cunt thinks they voted for him to be President.
FPTP system essentially elects term dictatorships.
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Or chaos with Ed Miliband.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Camroc2 wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:27 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:49 pm Fat cunt thinks they voted for him to be President.
FPTP system essentially elects term dictatorships.
5 of the last 7 UK PMs (soon to be 6 of the last 8) have been kicked out between elections.
Wha daur meddle wi' me?
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