Nienaber FINALLY GOING....

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We don't have time to dilly dally. Must go now.

JW in a caretaker role
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:lol:

It's not exactly an exclusive club, but welcome!
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Jake White will just get the ANC back on our footsteps selecting only white players and we will play more high kick and charge rugby all over again. He started the rot.

We need a coach to take us to the next WC. That is
Dobson.
1.He changed the RasNaber defensive gameplan at the Stormers to full out attack with ball in hand rugby
2. He won the URC despite politics off the field in the worst state.
3. Change rejects from other franchises into winners.
4. Developing of young players into winners.
5. Proven success record as he came through the ranks. Varsity Cup with UCT, u21 CC with WP, URC with Stormers.
6. Reunite with his players like Etsebeth (UCT), Kolisi, PSdT.

No other SA coach come close to our Soutie coach.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:14 am Jake White will just get the ANC back on our footsteps selecting only white players and we will play more high kick and charge rugby all over again. He started the rot.

We need a coach to take us to the next WC. That is
Dobson.
1.He changed the RasNaber defensive gameplan at the Stormers to full out attack with ball in hand rugby
2. He won the URC despite politics off the field in the worst state.
3. Change rejects from other franchises into winners.
4. Developing of young players into winners.
5. Proven success record as he came through the ranks. Varsity Cup with UCT, u21 CC with WP, URC with Stormers.
6. Reunite with his players like Etsebeth (UCT), Kolisi, PSdT.

No other SA coach come close to our Soutie coach.
WP are under administration......don't believe for 1 minute its Dobson......
And we have had enough of WP players or management ruining the Boks...


Our under 20s coach with Jake White will make a great contibution.
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Gumboot wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:46 am :lol:

It's not exactly an exclusive club, but welcome!
Long overdue....
No forward planning
No gameplan besides Jakeball 2007
No player development except for his buddies.
Just a very horrible situation to be in.

Social media is full of us calling for JN to do the honorouble thing and fall on his sword
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The criticism is justified, but I don't think there's much merit in sacking him this close to a world cup.

3 weeks ago when we beat the All Blacks, it was our best win since 2019. So we have the potential.
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assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:21 am The criticism is justified, but I don't think there's much merit in sacking him this close to a world cup.

3 weeks ago when we beat the All Blacks, it was our best win since 2019. So we have the potential.
There is still time.

Imagine if he cannot make a change to the gameplan now , how is he ever going to change personnel and tactics before the RWC.....besides having pissed off our young talent....he will not have the changeroom.

Time for a new broom now before its too late
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It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
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assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:38 am It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
I don't think Nienaber has the changeroom. He always looks baffled and confused after each loss.

Anyway. There is no hope in hell of winning the RWC with the Rassnabber combo. So what do we have to lose.

We barely beat Wales and were so lucky in the final test. We can't beat Australia. This is the worst ABs since whenever. So that victory is moot. We won't beat Argentina. We are heading for a downward spiral
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Sards wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:13 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:14 am Jake White will just get the ANC back on our footsteps selecting only white players and we will play more high kick and charge rugby all over again. He started the rot.

We need a coach to take us to the next WC. That is
Dobson.
1.He changed the RasNaber defensive gameplan at the Stormers to full out attack with ball in hand rugby
2. He won the URC despite politics off the field in the worst state.
3. Change rejects from other franchises into winners.
4. Developing of young players into winners.
5. Proven success record as he came through the ranks. Varsity Cup with UCT, u21 CC with WP, URC with Stormers.
6. Reunite with his players like Etsebeth (UCT), Kolisi, PSdT.

No other SA coach come close to our Soutie coach.
WP are under administration......don't believe for 1 minute its Dobson......
And we have had enough of WP players or management ruining the Boks...


Our under 20s coach with Jake White will make a great contibution.
You are just a stupid kont bringing kak into your argument.
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assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:38 am It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
Agree 100%. Hope Rassie coach the lot that stayed and sent them for the Puma test in Argentina
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:58 am
assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:38 am It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
Agree 100%. Hope Rassie coach the lot that stayed and sent them for the Puma test in Argentina
Thought he was in overall charge of everything, so isn't it his fault?
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SaintK wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:03 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:58 am
assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:38 am It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
Agree 100%. Hope Rassie coach the lot that stayed and sent them for the Puma test in Argentina
Thought he was in overall charge of everything, so isn't it his fault?
Exactly....using the same game plan that Jake won the 2007RWC with.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:49 am
Sards wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:13 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:14 am Jake White will just get the ANC back on our footsteps selecting only white players and we will play more high kick and charge rugby all over again. He started the rot.

We need a coach to take us to the next WC. That is
Dobson.
1.He changed the RasNaber defensive gameplan at the Stormers to full out attack with ball in hand rugby
2. He won the URC despite politics off the field in the worst state.
3. Change rejects from other franchises into winners.
4. Developing of young players into winners.
5. Proven success record as he came through the ranks. Varsity Cup with UCT, u21 CC with WP, URC with Stormers.
6. Reunite with his players like Etsebeth (UCT), Kolisi, PSdT.

No other SA coach come close to our Soutie coach.
WP are under administration......don't believe for 1 minute its Dobson......
And we have had enough of WP players or management ruining the Boks...


Our under 20s coach with Jake White will make a great contibution.
You are just a stupid kont bringing kak into your argument.
Go look around social media. Not even a win this coming weekend will satisfy South Africans. We are over the Rassnabber buddy system.
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Our players are not coached properly. It's just one game plan.
Swys really gets worked up.

The vokkers Rassnabber must do the right thing and resign
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Owen Nkumane was a shit rugby player and is a shit commentator.

He has dabbled in coaching and was shit at it.

His rugby knowledge is shit.
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Who's the fella on the left? He's desperate to defend them. I think he's sort of right on the 50/22, but the Aussies were clearly expecting that, and so it should still have gone through the hands.

The 2nd one, it may have been turnover ball, but that was already a semi organised defense (and attack), so clearly there'd been a bit of time to set things. He's defending the indefensible by then no?
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Sards want a new coach because a 50/20 kick don't went out and Kolisi went the wrong way. :lol:
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SaintK wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:03 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:58 am
assfly wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:38 am It is too late. That's my argument. To bring in a new coach who will also bring in their own players and gameplan will not make any difference to the results we're getting now, it will be chaos.

Our gameplan can win us the world cup. What we're struggling with is players implementing it. We have fresh faces that are already in the squad, and some that need to be brought in (Roos and a hooker), so let's get them into the team and light a fire under some of our sacred cow players to get them performing.
Agree 100%. Hope Rassie coach the lot that stayed and sent them for the Puma test in Argentina
Thought he was in overall charge of everything, so isn't it his fault?
Shush. When they are left alone they can’t stop fighting amongst themselves but they unit against any outsiders coming in.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:15 pm Sards want a new coach because a 50/20 kick don't went out and Kolisi went the wrong way. :lol:
Did you listen to them. That kick should have been passed not kicked. We had an overlap. Just poor coaching, vision , skills and execution
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Surprised the team hasn't been named yet....
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Kick kick kick....
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Sards, who would you want to take over?

Jimmy Stonehouse
Scott Robertson
John Plumtree
AC
PDV
JW
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:14 am Jake White will just get the ANC back on our footsteps selecting only white players and we will play more high kick and charge rugby all over again. He started the rot.

We need a coach to take us to the next WC. That is
Dobson.
1.He changed the RasNaber defensive gameplan at the Stormers to full out attack with ball in hand rugby
2. He won the URC despite politics off the field in the worst state.
3. Change rejects from other franchises into winners.
4. Developing of young players into winners.
5. Proven success record as he came through the ranks. Varsity Cup with UCT, u21 CC with WP, URC with Stormers.
6. Reunite with his players like Etsebeth (UCT), Kolisi, PSdT.

No other SA coach come close to our Soutie coach.
I think so long as you are winning then you can ignore the politics and pick whomever you want. Winning a World Cup trumps everything.

If you are not preforming and not meeting the transformation targets, that's when you have problems.
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Hmm. Dobson took the Stormers out of the dromme, losing at home against the Lions. That was the turning point.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:31 pm Sards, who would you want to take over?

Jimmy Stonehouse
Scott Robertson
John Plumtree
AC
PDV
JW
He want Jake White but he also critizise NieNaber gameplan copied from Jake White. :lol:
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:50 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:31 pm Sards, who would you want to take over?

Jimmy Stonehouse
Scott Robertson
John Plumtree
AC
PDV
JW
He want Jake White but he also critizise NieNaber gameplan copied from Jake White. :lol:
It would have to be a caretaker role. Jake White that is.Pretty much like Rassie currently. The coach would have to be from our structures.
Probably Bafana.
He coached the Lions under 20s to a title and is doing a great job with our current under 20s.
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I'm sure that Heyneke Meyer will be available if asked.
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Amazing how little indignation there is for Rassnabber.
If it were AC or Pieter De Villiers they would have been fired already. But because it's 2 white coaches......?
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Sards wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:12 am Amazing how little indignation there is for Rassnabber.
If it were AC or Pieter De Villiers they would have been fired already. But because it's 2 white coaches......?
Don't agree with this. Being a World Cup Winner gets you lots of credit in the bank.
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ia801310 wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:35 am
Sards wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:12 am Amazing how little indignation there is for Rassnabber.
If it were AC or Pieter De Villiers they would have been fired already. But because it's 2 white coaches......?
Don't agree with this. Being a World Cup Winner gets you lots of credit in the bank.
That's the current feeling on social media. Rassnabber are getting away with murder compared to non white coaches. Not held to the same standards. However there is a very strong dissatisfaction with the current setup.
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Rasnaber achieved a RWC first time out. They can improve.

Books are almost exactly where they were 2018. And Rassie will be back in the change room, post RWC. Might make a difference
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Sards wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:32 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:50 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:31 pm Sards, who would you want to take over?

Jimmy Stonehouse
Scott Robertson
John Plumtree
AC
PDV
JW
He want Jake White but he also critizise NieNaber gameplan copied from Jake White. :lol:
It would have to be a caretaker role. Jake White that is.Pretty much like Rassie currently. The coach would have to be from our structures.
Probably Bafana.
He coached the Lions under 20s to a title and is doing a great job with our current under 20s.
A rugby coach with a name Bafana means kak. He can coach the Wallabies.
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Kolisi stood up and silenced the critics again, like he always does. Led by example.

Only true Rasnaberisi supporters are allowed to enjoy this win.
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Sards don't agree, he hate Rasnaber
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White coaches redeemed ?
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Let's be honest. On my opinion a lot of credit for that win must go to Jaden. His decision making and execution was outstanding
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:50 am Kolisi stood up and silenced the critics again, like he always does. Led by example.

Only true Rasnaberisi supporters are allowed to enjoy this win.
He was exceptionally good.
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Very proud of our Sharks boys. Really put their hands up and brought the aggression.
Eben, Kolisi, Jayden and Mapimpi....vok yeah. We showed those Aussies a thing or 4


I don't think Rassnaber had anything to do with this. This was our boys playing for pride
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:29 pm Very proud of our Sharks boys. Really put their hands up and brought the aggression.
Eben, Kolisi, Jayden and Mapimpi....vok yeah. We showed those Aussies a thing or 4


I don't think Rassnaber had anything to do with this. This was our boys playing for pride
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