Stop voting for fucking Tories

[SaintK]

Nice little £20k thankyou present for Dr Fox!

Tory MP Liam Fox received a £20,000 donation in June from a Covid testing firm on whose behalf he had contacted the then health secretary Matt Hancock.
Mr Fox recommended SureScreen Diagnostics to Mr Hancock in 2020, an email seen by campaign group Good Law Project and the BBC shows.
The company went on to win a £500m contract to provide tests without facing competition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62766148

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Nice little £20k thankyou present for Dr Fox!

Tory MP Liam Fox received a £20,000 donation in June from a Covid testing firm on whose behalf he had contacted the then health secretary Matt Hancock.
Mr Fox recommended SureScreen Diagnostics to Mr Hancock in 2020, an email seen by campaign group Good Law Project and the BBC shows.
The company went on to win a £500m contract to provide tests without facing competition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62766148

That will be disgraced former defence secretary Liam Fox if you please.

And it says something, if also nothing good, that someone with as atrociously corrupt behaviour behind them as disgraced former defence secretary Liam Fox that they've been able to continue a high profile career in politics following his appalling abrogation of duty

[tabascoboy]

Well who couldn't have guessed this was coming...

The article of course is paywalled, but the things hinted at are mostly concerning protections such as the 48-hour working week, entitlement to holiday and paid holidays, breaks during work, working conditions...

[Insane_Homer]

[Hal Jordan]

Well who couldn't have guessed this was coming...

The article of course is paywalled, but the things hinted at are mostly concerning protections such as the 48-hour working week, entitlement to holiday and paid holidays, breaks during work, working conditions...

Truss isn't eyeing anything up. It's the dark money cunts that back her that are priapic for post-Brexit sovereignty, allowing them to feast on the NHS, sack off the Working Time Directive and TUPE, throw as many H&S regulations outside window as they can, plus the Net Zero Watch scum, and the avoidance of EU money laundering regs.

Truss is just another Johnson, a distraction machine to focus away from the vile shit going on behind the scenes, but without his animal cunning and utter belief in himself.

[I like neeps]

Well who couldn't have guessed this was coming...

The article of course is paywalled, but the things hinted at are mostly concerning protections such as the 48-hour working week, entitlement to holiday and paid holidays, breaks during work, working conditions...

Truss isn't eyeing anything up. It's the dark money cunts that back her that are priapic for post-Brexit sovereignty, allowing them to feast on the NHS, sack off the Working Time Directive and TUPE, throw as many H&S regulations outside window as they can, plus the Net Zero Watch scum, and the avoidance of EU money laundering regs.

Truss is just another Johnson, a distraction machine to focus away from the vile shit going on behind the scenes, but without his animal cunning and utter belief in himself.

The problem with Truss is she believes workers should have less rights. The problem for Truss is the electorate don't believe that. See also, windfall tax on oil producers.

She will lose an election if she takes away holiday rights and the new labour governments first act? Restoring those holiday rights.

[fishfoodie]

The problem with Truss is she believes workers should have less rights. The problem for Truss is the electorate don't believe that. See also, windfall tax on oil producers.

She will lose an election if she takes away holiday rights and the new labour governments first act? Restoring those holiday rights.

I'm almost surprised it took her this long to threaten the GE next year.

The only problem is that I don't think even this intake of Tory MPs is thick enough to believe she's cut her own throat, if they don't support her rule unquestioningly.

They know she's a careerist; & her threat has zero credibility, as long as she remains an obvious careerist.

Ultimately, she just inherits the Bumblecunts mantle; if she's a net positive to the MPs re-election chances, they'll support her; otherwise she's fucked !

For the last number of weeks she's been pandering to bigots in the Tory membership; but now she has to negotiate with the MPs who didn't want her in the first place, & know she's a fucking liability, but she has to try & get them to push on with a program, that the MPs know will decide will either win, or lose them their seats in the next election, & if her program is what she promised to get elected, that certainly will lose them the election !

So she can do what she promised to get elected; & lose the GE, & destroy the Tories for a Generation.
Renege on all those promises & do what best for the Country, & piss off the ERG & lose the Leadership
..... something in between, that fucks the UK, & Tories

[Tichtheid]

The more Tory voters see of Liz Truss, the less they like her, polls show

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... polls-show


However, on polling for the next election.

Overall Labour lead by 4 points on 38% (-1 on a fortnight ago) while the Tories increased their vote share to 34% (+3) compared with mid-August.

With the worst prime minister in 50 years on the way out and a vacuous idiot on the way in, what does it say about Starmer and Labour that they don't have a 40+ point lead right now?

[tabascoboy]

Christ alive what a state we're in. Tweeter is Political Editor of the Sunday Times

[tabascoboy]

[_Os_]

However, on polling for the next election.

Overall Labour lead by 4 points on 38% (-1 on a fortnight ago) while the Tories increased their vote share to 34% (+3) compared with mid-August.

With the worst prime minister in 50 years on the way out and a vacuous idiot on the way in, what does it say about Starmer and Labour that they don't have a 40+ point lead right now?

At some point at least some responsibility and blame has to be apportioned to the voters, it can't all be only Labour's fault forever. Brown, Miliband, Corbyn, Starmer aren't all the same person with the same leadership team and policies, if only Labour is blamed then the reasons for Labour's failure over this time become contradictory.

[petej]

Christ alive what a state we're in. Tweeter is Political Editor of the Sunday Times

That is an awful cabinet.

However, on polling for the next election.

Overall Labour lead by 4 points on 38% (-1 on a fortnight ago) while the Tories increased their vote share to 34% (+3) compared with mid-August.

With the worst prime minister in 50 years on the way out and a vacuous idiot on the way in, what does it say about Starmer and Labour that they don't have a 40+ point lead right now?

At some point at least some responsibility and blame has to be apportioned to the voters, it can't all be only Labour's fault forever. Brown, Miliband, Corbyn, Starmer aren't all the same person with the same leadership team and policies, if only Labour is blamed then the reasons for Labour's failure over this time become contradictory.

Indeed. This government has an abusive relationship with the electorate and the worse the government is the harder it seems to be for the electorate to believe it can be better. The right wing press is there to convince the electorate it is them not government at fault.

[Tichtheid]

However, on polling for the next election.

Overall Labour lead by 4 points on 38% (-1 on a fortnight ago) while the Tories increased their vote share to 34% (+3) compared with mid-August.

With the worst prime minister in 50 years on the way out and a vacuous idiot on the way in, what does it say about Starmer and Labour that they don't have a 40+ point lead right now?

At some point at least some responsibility and blame has to be apportioned to the voters, it can't all be only Labour's fault forever. Brown, Miliband, Corbyn, Starmer aren't all the same person with the same leadership team and policies, if only Labour is blamed then the reasons for Labour's failure over this time become contradictory.

Oh I agree about the electorate, and I also recognise that Labour’s message is not really allowed to get through, but Starmer has to go on the offensive with the new PM and show there is a credible alternative to 12 years of austerity, corruption and self interest.

[I like neeps]

After her shambolic performance on Laura K's new programme I'm very excited for Truss' premiership. The whole one year of it!

[SaintK]

Christ alive what a state we're in. Tweeter is Political Editor of the Sunday Times

Fuck me that's an appalling cabinet.
Be afraid, be very, very afraid

[Insane_Homer]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

[I like neeps]

He has done a great job here showing Kuenssburg and the rest of the chattering class as nodding dogs.

As an aside, Kuenssburg is paid a fortune and has nothing to worry about. Which is what it is - being Dominic Cummings twitter admin is a demanding job. However, would be powerful if any of these shows had someone on 30k asking the questions rather 300k because it means something to them.

[dpedin]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

We're doomed!

[petej]

He has done a great job here showing Kuenssburg and the rest of the chattering class as nodding dogs.

As an aside, Kuenssburg is paid a fortune and has nothing to worry about. Which is what it is - being Dominic Cummings twitter admin is a demanding job. However, would be powerful if any of these shows had someone on 30k asking the questions rather 300k because it means something to them.

The political "journalist" and commentators are no better than football transfer journos. Football transfer gossip and political journalism is pretty similar. Kuenssburg should be paid at the level as the person who collates the BBC football transfer gossip.

It was noticeable during the pandemic that the standard of question when regional journalists were invited was much better and harder for Johnson than the soft shite from Peston and other nodding dogs.

[Paddington Bear]

He has done a great job here showing Kuenssburg and the rest of the chattering class as nodding dogs.

As an aside, Kuenssburg is paid a fortune and has nothing to worry about. Which is what it is - being Dominic Cummings twitter admin is a demanding job. However, would be powerful if any of these shows had someone on 30k asking the questions rather 300k because it means something to them.

The political "journalist" and commentators are no better than football transfer journos. Football transfer gossip and political journalism is pretty similar. Kuenssburg should be paid at the level as the person who collates the BBC football transfer gossip.

It was noticeable during the pandemic that the standard of question when regional journalists were invited was much better and harder for Johnson than the soft shite from Peston and other nodding dogs.

Yes, the main pundits are at their level talking about gossip and reshuffles. Anything policy related is beyond them

[sockwithaticket]

He has done a great job here showing Kuenssburg and the rest of the chattering class as nodding dogs.

As an aside, Kuenssburg is paid a fortune and has nothing to worry about. Which is what it is - being Dominic Cummings twitter admin is a demanding job. However, would be powerful if any of these shows had someone on 30k asking the questions rather 300k because it means something to them.

The political "journalist" and commentators are no better than football transfer journos. Football transfer gossip and political journalism is pretty similar. Kuenssburg should be paid at the level as the person who collates the BBC football transfer gossip.

It was noticeable during the pandemic that the standard of question when regional journalists were invited was much better and harder for Johnson than the soft shite from Peston and other nodding dogs.

Probably still more than she's worth...

[sockwithaticket]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

[I like neeps]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

[fishfoodie]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

Àt least in prison the Tories would have to make sure they'd have adequate heat, & food, & health care, this winter.

[tabascoboy]

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

Àt least in prison the Tories would have to make sure they'd have adequate heat, & food, & health care, this winter.

Change of regulations to make prisoners "suffer the consequences for crime" incoming in 3...2...1...

[Tichtheid]

Rich people benefiting more from her proposed tax cuts is 'fair' and nor will her plans lead to inflation since that's the BOEs problem.

At this rate, riots before xmas.

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

When I was younger I'd go on marches and demos, they were generally peaceful, but the miners' strike was different.
I know a guy who threw a stone at a window of an empty mobile tea hut at a pit just outside Edinburgh. That footage was shown on the BBC six o'clock news. It was edited so that the stone appeared to hit a police officer at a pit in Yorkshire.
If he had that sort of arm on him he should have been in the Olympics.

Anyway, I've also been inadvertently caught in a demo when things went a wee bit ugly. I had my then 7 year old daughter with me (I wasn't on the march, I was just accidentally in the wrong place) and turned a corner to see EDL people smashing windows of cafes and shops. Mounted police were riding into the crowds and anarchists were throwing stones at the EDL and at the police.
I got my daughter out of there immediately.

No one wants full on riots, but recent government legislation is outlawing peaceful protest so that it will be dealt with in the same way riots are.

As far as I remember Starmer wanted to stop rioting, not to prevent protest. He spoke up against Johnson's idiotic and dangerous claims of rioting if his will on illegally proroguing parliament was opposed.
Starmer is not the villain here.

[C69]

Truss as PM ffs, let that sink in.

[fishfoodie]

Truss as PM ffs, let that sink in.

and the Bumblecunt waiting in the long grass, as a probable candidate for Leadership, when she inevitably fucks up !

It's like a significant number of the passengers voting to have the driver, who drove the bus over the cliff, but leapt to safety himself; drive the ambulance, with the survivors in the back, to the Hospital

You're just completely fucked !

[I like neeps]

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

Àt least in prison the Tories would have to make sure they'd have adequate heat, & food, & health care, this winter.

I'm going to guess you aren't clued up on the state of UK prisons.

[I like neeps]

Honestly? I kind of hope so. Our collective lack of will to 'go French' and actually express our displeasure beyond tutting and making jokes about shit politicians is no small part of why we've arrived at this point.

The Tories are a pack of cunts and will behave as such. It is up to the people to reign them in and sometimes that means reminding politicians that they should be scared of us. They occupy their positions on our sufferance so long as they more or less uphold the social contract. They have manifestly failed to do that, in the process clearly demonstrating that they could not give less of a fuck about anyone who isn't a donor or chum.

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

When I was younger I'd go on marches and demos, they were generally peaceful, but the miners' strike was different.
I know a guy who threw a stone at a window of an empty mobile tea hut at a pit just outside Edinburgh. That footage was shown on the BBC six o'clock news. It was edited so that the stone appeared to hit a police officer at a pit in Yorkshire.
If he had that sort of arm on him he should have been in the Olympics.

Anyway, I've also been inadvertently caught in a demo when things went a wee bit ugly. I had my then 7 year old daughter with me (I wasn't on the march, I was just accidentally in the wrong place) and turned a corner to see EDL people smashing windows of cafes and shops. Mounted police were riding into the crowds and anarchists were throwing stones at the EDL and at the police.
I got my daughter out of there immediately.

No one wants full on riots, but recent government legislation is outlawing peaceful protest so that it will be dealt with in the same way riots are.

As far as I remember Starmer wanted to stop rioting, not to prevent protest. He spoke up against Johnson's idiotic and dangerous claims of rioting if his will on illegally proroguing parliament was opposed.
Starmer is not the villain here.

We weren't talking about protests though, we were talking about riots. And Starmer's response as Head of DPP was very harsh. I.e. a student with no priors getting the maximum sentence for nicking a bottle of water.

I imagine if you compare the French states reaction to rioting and the UKs you'd see why we don't do it so often.

[I like neeps]

Congratulations to Keir Starmer for winning the support of Nigel Farage. The type of guy the Labour movement needs onside.

[Tichtheid]

Last time there were riots in this country Sir Keir decided on prison for everyone though. What's the judicial response in France? Most people probably think it isn't worth their time.

Not that the courts in this country function anymore so really the time is ripe.

When I was younger I'd go on marches and demos, they were generally peaceful, but the miners' strike was different.
I know a guy who threw a stone at a window of an empty mobile tea hut at a pit just outside Edinburgh. That footage was shown on the BBC six o'clock news. It was edited so that the stone appeared to hit a police officer at a pit in Yorkshire.
If he had that sort of arm on him he should have been in the Olympics.

Anyway, I've also been inadvertently caught in a demo when things went a wee bit ugly. I had my then 7 year old daughter with me (I wasn't on the march, I was just accidentally in the wrong place) and turned a corner to see EDL people smashing windows of cafes and shops. Mounted police were riding into the crowds and anarchists were throwing stones at the EDL and at the police.
I got my daughter out of there immediately.

No one wants full on riots, but recent government legislation is outlawing peaceful protest so that it will be dealt with in the same way riots are.

As far as I remember Starmer wanted to stop rioting, not to prevent protest. He spoke up against Johnson's idiotic and dangerous claims of rioting if his will on illegally proroguing parliament was opposed.
Starmer is not the villain here.

We weren't talking about protests though, we were talking about riots. And Starmer's response as Head of DPP was very harsh. I.e. a student with no priors getting the maximum sentence for nicking a bottle of water.

I imagine if you compare the French states reaction to rioting and the UKs you'd see why we don't do it so often.

The French state goes in with water cannons, rubber bullets, tear gas and riot shields, battering everyone within hitting distance

Jacques Pezet, fact-checking Journalist for the CheckNews division of Liberation had, as of the 30th of January counted 144 verifiable cases of gilets jaunes and journalists severely injured by the riot police. At least 14 victims have lost an eye and 92 of the 144 have been shot by flashballs. Flashballs are rubber bullets fired from a tube like weapon with the stopping power of a .38 calibre handgun. At close range, as the French CRS (riot police) have used them, they can be particularly damaging.

As far as the student who nicked water is concerned, he took part in looting

At Camberwell Green magistrates, Nicholas Robinson, 23, an electrical engineering student with no previous convictions, was jailed for the maximum permitted six months after pleading guilty to stealing bottles of water worth £3.50 from Lidl in Brixton. He had been walking back from his girlfriend's house in the early hours of Monday morning when he saw the store being looted, his lawyer said, and had taken the opportunity to go in and help himself to a case of water because he was thirsty. He was caught up in the moment, and was ashamed of his actions, his defence said.

But the prosecution told judge Alan Baldwin: "This defendant has contributed through his action to criminal activities to the atmosphere of chaos and sheer lawlessness." There were gasps from the public gallery as his sentence was delivered.

The only thing I can find so far from Starmer about those prosecutions is that he was of the opinion that quick convictions were more effective than heavy sentences in stopping the looting and preventing future rioting. From what goodle tells me he didn't pursue maximum penalties, I'm open to correction on that of course.

On what Farage said, I was no fan of Corbyn, and neither was the electorate in 2019. Has there ever been a Labour Prime Minister from the left of the party? I'd prefer if there had been but I realise that the country just doesn't want it, as far as I recall no one fromt he left has ever been PM.

[petej]

Congratulations to Keir Starmer for winning the support of Nigel Farage. The type of guy the Labour movement needs onside.

Farage is bellwether. Just as much an indication of truss and the Tories unpopularity as much as Starmer being whatever.

[tabascoboy]

Clearly just the right sort of person to have as your MP

[tabascoboy]

Barring something completely unexpected, meet our next PM

[SaintK]

"Looks like the most right-wing?" It will be!

[sockwithaticket]

The more I see and hear the more I think they're intending for Truss to head up an ultra-regressive government for a short period, 6-8 months, of deeply unpopular slashing and burning of rights and services, for which she'll be the scapegoat. With all the unpopular stuff out the way, she'll leave and Boris will make his 'triumphant' return as party leader.

[SaintK]

The latest "worst" PM ever

Liz Truss: 81,326

Rishi Sunak: 60,399

Electorate: 172,437

Turnout: 82.6%

Rejected ballot papers: 654

[petej]

The latest "worst" PM ever

Liz Truss: 81,326

Rishi Sunak: 60,399

Electorate: 172,437

Turnout: 82.6%

Rejected ballot papers: 654

Closer than I thought it would be.

[SaintK]

The latest "worst" PM ever

Liz Truss: 81,326

Rishi Sunak: 60,399

Electorate: 172,437

Turnout: 82.6%

Rejected ballot papers: 654

Closer than I thought it would be.

Only 57% of the vote. She's going to have a nightmare with her own MP's