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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
Am is still needed. Best 13 in the world atm.
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Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:25 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
Am is still needed. Best 13 in the world atm.
Sure is needed, just mean Kriel can play in 13. ( never thought I say this) :oops:
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
In line with the thread title, there was considerable evidence of the 'bokke going forward. And doing so while holding the ball! Turns out backs are useful to have around.

That lesson was, alas, lost on Straya. For most of the game the Wobs' forwards and halves seemed blind to their team-mates in jerseys numbering higher than 10. The outside backs should put in a claim for unemployment benefits.
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MungoMan wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:19 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
In line with the thread title, there was considerable evidence of the 'bokke going forward. And doing so while holding the ball! Turns out backs are useful to have around.

That lesson was, alas, lost on Straya. For most of the game the Wobs' forwards and halves seemed blind to their team-mates in jerseys numbering higher than 10. The outside backs should put in a claim for unemployment benefits.
Cheers Boet. Last week we had that problem. Forwards decide the win, backs the scoreline mostly.
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Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:25 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
Am is still needed. Best 13 in the world atm.
Am still has 30--40 tests in him if he stays fit. He's a Conrad Smith type - who played for the ABs until he was 34. Agree about the fresh blood. Hendrikse, Moodie, Arendse all went very nicely.

I still think Dweba has it in him to be a Bok hooker. Let him settle into the Stormers side and learn from Malherbe, Brok Harris, Deon Fourie and Kitshoff. I wasn't convinced by Bongi Mbonambi at first but he turned into a solid no. 2 for us. Our lineouts have stuttered a bit over the last few tests. I know its not just a throwing thing. More work needed there.

We still have question marks about a long term successor to Pollard. I'm hoping Jordan Hendriks does well at the Lions this year. Same for Mngomezulu at the Stormers.

Front row is solid for the next 5 years I reckon as is the backrow. I'd like to see a couple of freakishly athletic giant locks come through. Not sure if RG Snyman will ever make it back.
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Pick a balanced and fit loose trio and halfbacks that can create and suddenly you have a game going.What a surprise that must have been for Nienaber.
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Etsebeth and Willemse played all the tests. They'll need to rest them at some point. Moerat and Frans Steyn need gametime.
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Look like Roos will join the Boks in Argentina. He isn't in the Stormers current squad at Wilderness.
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boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:05 pm Pick a balanced and fit loose trio and halfbacks that can create and suddenly you have a game going.What a surprise that must have been for Nienaber.
Agree somewhat but are you going to feel comfortable with Willemse's kicking in a tight match? I still think Pollard has it in him to get a backline going. But add in DDA outside him and you have a stodgy midfield. We should be able to hammer the Argies up front and I'd like to see us use that possession to continue to build the attacking game.
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Am out for the year, Pollard and Bongi minimum 6 weeks
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:25 pm
boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:05 pm Pick a balanced and fit loose trio and halfbacks that can create and suddenly you have a game going.What a surprise that must have been for Nienaber.
Agree somewhat but are you going to feel comfortable with Willemse's kicking in a tight match? I still think Pollard has it in him to get a backline going. But add in DDA outside him and you have a stodgy midfield. We should be able to hammer the Argies up front and I'd like to see us use that possession to continue to build the attacking game.
Select Frans Steyn in 15 or Willemse need to work on his place kicking. He nail that winner against Wales.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:56 am
MungoMan wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:19 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
In line with the thread title, there was considerable evidence of the 'bokke going forward. And doing so while holding the ball! Turns out backs are useful to have around.

That lesson was, alas, lost on Straya. For most of the game the Wobs' forwards and halves seemed blind to their team-mates in jerseys numbering higher than 10. The outside backs should put in a claim for unemployment benefits.
Cheers Boet. Last week we had that problem. Forwards decide the win, backs the scoreline mostly.
This game was proof of that. Had SA played 10 man rugby they would still have won, but by a smaller margin.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:23 am
Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:25 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:20 pm Today's performance was much better then last week. RasNaber need to give more debutants gametime. PSdT and Faf is past it. Dweba had to go.

There is life after Am and Pollard.
Am is still needed. Best 13 in the world atm.
Am still has 30--40 tests in him if he stays fit. He's a Conrad Smith type - who played for the ABs until he was 34. Agree about the fresh blood. Hendrikse, Moodie, Arendse all went very nicely.

I still think Dweba has it in him to be a Bok hooker. Let him settle into the Stormers side and learn from Malherbe, Brok Harris, Deon Fourie and Kitshoff. I wasn't convinced by Bongi Mbonambi at first but he turned into a solid no. 2 for us. Our lineouts have stuttered a bit over the last few tests. I know its not just a throwing thing. More work needed there.

We still have question marks about a long term successor to Pollard. I'm hoping Jordan Hendriks does well at the Lions this year. Same for Mngomezulu at the Stormers.

Front row is solid for the next 5 years I reckon as is the backrow. I'd like to see a couple of freakishly athletic giant locks come through. Not sure if RG Snyman will ever make it back.
Hope he does. I really enjoy watching him play, and these days the only chance I'd get would be if he's wearing the national jersey.
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It's so great that some of our sideline players finally got some gametime, and we actually won. The current injuries will force us to test our depth, which in the long run is a good thing.

Willemse was excellent but if he's going to play 10 he has to work on his kicking game. I'd be happy if we keep him there for a few more games to find his feet. as having him and Willie le Roux on the field together was fun.
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:35 am It's so great that some of our sideline players finally got some gametime, and we actually won. The current injuries will force us to test our depth, which in the long run is a good thing.

Willemse was excellent but if he's going to play 10 he has to work on his kicking game. I'd be happy if we keep him there for a few more games to find his feet. as having him and Willie le Roux on the field together was fun.
Totally agree, but it also proves how stubborn and reluctant to change Nienaber actually is.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:25 pm
boere wors wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:05 pm Pick a balanced and fit loose trio and halfbacks that can create and suddenly you have a game going.What a surprise that must have been for Nienaber.
Agree somewhat but are you going to feel comfortable with Willemse's kicking in a tight match? I still think Pollard has it in him to get a backline going. But add in DDA outside him and you have a stodgy midfield. We should be able to hammer the Argies up front and I'd like to see us use that possession to continue to build the attacking game.
Not at the moment no. He'll have to improve on his goal kicking and quickly.

We shouldn't be be too harsh on him though, he's also not the first choice kicker at the Stormers, so it's not like he's getting a ton of practice under match conditions.
He's being thrown into the deep end expected to run the game from 10 and kick goal when we has always a utility player to be used at 10 in a pinch.

It's a tricky one, because with Libbok at 10 and the preferred kicker at the Stormers, Willemse is unlikely to get more match practice in the URC unless Dobbo takes one for the team and helps Nienaber out.
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So who is going to have the dubious honour of being our 4th choice flyhalf to play on Saturday?

I'm starting to think that our chickens are coming home to roost, by JN not bothering to build depth in key positions.
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Frans Steyn.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:27 am Frans Steyn.
The only depth-building we're doing there will be to his waistline.
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1. Willemse skop kak
2. We are a year out from the World Cup. World Rugby needs to seriously do something about the officiating or its going to be a pretty shit comp.
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For Saturday I agree with Sards that Libbok will be a perfect fit. But I have a better chance getting pregnant.
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I still hope that Johan Goosen will come back one day and stay healthy. He is class.
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:22 am So who is going to have the dubious honour of being our 4th choice flyhalf to play on Saturday?

I'm starting to think that our chickens are coming home to roost, by JN not bothering to build depth in key positions.
I warned about this as soon as Pollard went down.
Nienaber has been obsessed about utility players and this has been the vokkop. Besides having 4 scrumhalves, retaining Herschel Junkies although he is a vokkop instead of bringing in a flyhalf. I am sorry but Rassnabber are twats.

Still waiting for the love of the game to apologize
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:11 am
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For Saturday I agree with Sards that Libbok will be a perfect fit. But I have a better chance getting pregnant.
He has played in most of the teams and knows most of the bok players.
I think the fear for Nienaber is that Libbok has a great performance and then Willemse is out of the 10 contention
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:28 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:11 am
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For Saturday I agree with Sards that Libbok will be a perfect fit. But I have a better chance getting pregnant.
He has played in most of the teams and knows most of the bok players.
I think the fear for Nienaber is that Libbok has a great performance and then Willemse is out of the 10 contention
You living in a dream world.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:09 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:28 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:11 am
For Saturday I agree with Sards that Libbok will be a perfect fit. But I have a better chance getting pregnant.
He has played in most of the teams and knows most of the bok players.
I think the fear for Nienaber is that Libbok has a great performance and then Willemse is out of the 10 contention
You living in a dream world.
Happened every year at the Stormers
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:09 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:28 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:11 am
For Saturday I agree with Sards that Libbok will be a perfect fit. But I have a better chance getting pregnant.
He has played in most of the teams and knows most of the bok players.
I think the fear for Nienaber is that Libbok has a great performance and then Willemse is out of the 10 contention
You living in a dream world.
You are both batshit crazy. Even if Libbok was good enough to play for the Boks, which he is not, he had to be in the camp to be considered for selection. It's neither here nor there anyway, the simple fact is that he is not suited to the Bok's style of play or gameplan. Keep him at the Stormers, where he has proven his worth. At the very least then take him along for the EOYT where he can be exposed the Bok setup and perhaps play for the SA A side.
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LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:24 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:09 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:28 pm

He has played in most of the teams and knows most of the bok players.
I think the fear for Nienaber is that Libbok has a great performance and then Willemse is out of the 10 contention
You living in a dream world.
You are both batshit crazy. Even if Libbok was good enough to play for the Boks, which he is not, he had to be in the camp to be considered for selection. It's neither here nor there anyway, the simple fact is that he is not suited to the Bok's style of play or gameplan. Keep him at the Stormers, where he has proven his worth. At the very least then take him along for the EOYT where he can be exposed the Bok setup and perhaps play for the SA A side.
As it is they both are with the Stormers as from today. :lol:
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Will be interesting to see if Dobbo is forced to drop Libbok for Willemse.
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You guys don't get it, Sards is use to grabbing any poes of the street that can weld two pieces of metal together and giving him a job. Why cant it be the same with the Boks?
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:50 pm Will be interesting to see if Dobbo is forced to drop Libbok for Willemse.
Willemse has proof himself 10,12 and 15 on test level. URC is lower so he can slot in any of those positions with ease. Stormers will probably use him in 12.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:53 pm You guys don't get it, Sards is use to grabbing any poes of the street that can weld two pieces of metal together and giving him a job. Why cant it be the same with the Boks?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Why is Willemse so kak at kicking for post oom, was he always this kak? I could kick those he missed and I was a flanker.

Some times I wonder at all the kak 10's do before they kick. 2 steps back, 3 steps sideways, look up and down 20 times. As a laaitie I use to place the ball in the grass, walk straight back a few steps, body in the direction I wanted to kick it and kick the damn thing. I swear it's all this crabbing sideways and having to turn the hips at the last moment that causes them to hook it.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:09 pm Why is Willemse so kak at kicking for post oom, was he always this kak? I could kick those he missed and I was a flanker.

Some times I wonder at all the kak 10's do before they kick. 2 steps back, 3 steps sideways, look up and down 20 times. As a laaitie I use to place the ball in the grass, walk straight back a few steps, body in the direction I wanted to kick it and kick the damn thing. I swear it's all this crabbing sideways and having to turn the hips at the last moment that causes them to hook it.
He always struggled with his place kicking. Played to much beach touchie as a kid.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:53 pm You guys don't get it, Sards is use to grabbing any poes of the street that can weld two pieces of metal together and giving him a job. Why cant it be the same with the Boks?
I live in Cape Town dude. Not blikkiesfontein where your cousin is the store keeper, postman, bar tender etc.
My staff have been with me since I opened 12 years ago. Guys have come in as cleaners and grown into artisans. Take a look at the top high end restaurants just opened in our region. Most of them have come from my shop. The likes of Hacienda, Dusk , Scala , Sonny and Irene, Wild , to name a few. We are currently busy with the most prestigious project of building a celebrity chef kitchen in the waterfront. First tenant the last winner of master chef. Followed by a host of celebrity chefs. My charcoal oven is the center piece of the cooking lineup.
We are busy finalizing a huge deal. Massive. Birthed from my wifes shop.
We have higher standards thank you. We are not just any p$%s.
My first charcoal oven I built on the board. It is specified in tenders now. We built a takeaway whilst on this board. It is going to grow exponentially. More charcoal ovens. Before you start talking kak remove your insecurities and prejudices and speak as a man.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:23 pm
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:53 pm You guys don't get it, Sards is use to grabbing any poes of the street that can weld two pieces of metal together and giving him a job. Why cant it be the same with the Boks?
I live in Cape Town dude. Not blikkiesfontein where your cousin is the store keeper, postman, bar tender etc.
My staff have been with me since I opened 12 years ago. Guys have come in as cleaners and grown into artisans. Take a look at the top high end restaurants just opened in our region. Most of them have come from my shop. The likes of Hacienda, Dusk , Scala , Sonny and Irene, Wild , to name a few. We are currently busy with the most prestigious project of building a celebrity chef kitchen in the waterfront. First tenant the last winner of master chef. Followed by a host of celebrity chefs. My charcoal oven is the center piece of the cooking lineup.
We are busy finalizing a huge deal. Massive. Birthed from my wifes shop.
We have higher standards thank you. We are not just any p$%s.
My first charcoal oven I built on the board. It is specified in tenders now. We built a takeaway whilst on this board. It is going to grow exponentially. More charcoal ovens. Before you start talking kak remove your insecurities and prejudices and speak as a man.
Great, I bet it took years of hard work and dedication. I bet it took a lot of resources, hard words and training to get your staff to buy in on your vision and the direction you want your company to head in.
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average joe wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:27 am
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:23 pm
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:53 pm You guys don't get it, Sards is use to grabbing any poes of the street that can weld two pieces of metal together and giving him a job. Why cant it be the same with the Boks?
I live in Cape Town dude. Not blikkiesfontein where your cousin is the store keeper, postman, bar tender etc.
My staff have been with me since I opened 12 years ago. Guys have come in as cleaners and grown into artisans. Take a look at the top high end restaurants just opened in our region. Most of them have come from my shop. The likes of Hacienda, Dusk , Scala , Sonny and Irene, Wild , to name a few. We are currently busy with the most prestigious project of building a celebrity chef kitchen in the waterfront. First tenant the last winner of master chef. Followed by a host of celebrity chefs. My charcoal oven is the center piece of the cooking lineup.
We are busy finalizing a huge deal. Massive. Birthed from my wifes shop.
We have higher standards thank you. We are not just any p$%s.
My first charcoal oven I built on the board. It is specified in tenders now. We built a takeaway whilst on this board. It is going to grow exponentially. More charcoal ovens. Before you start talking kak remove your insecurities and prejudices and speak as a man.
Great, I bet it took years of hard work and dedication. I bet it took a lot of resources, hard words and training to get your staff to buy in on your vision and the direction you want your company to head in.
and a lot of Nigerians.

Sards biggest challenge is staying in the Republic of Stormers and supporting the Sharks.

He is part of the Cape Crusaders community
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average joe wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:27 am

Great, I bet it took years of hard work and dedication. I bet it took a lot of resources, hard words and training to get your staff to buy in on your vision and the direction you want your company to head in.
I appreciate that. I take pride in what I do
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:41 am

Sards biggest challenge is staying in the Republic of Stormers and supporting the Sharks.

He is part of the Cape Crusaders community
I love the Cape. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. We have a strong family and friend structure here and the kids love their schools and the friends they have cultivated. Most going back 6 or 7 years. Where else do you get to freeze your balls off in winter, have the most sensational spring, a huge range of activities to do in the summer months, and very pleasant autumn's. Sport is very competitive. Which is awesome.
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