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dpedin wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:46 pm
For example research shows that c13,000 children in the UK have lost a parent to covid, many more have lost a grandparent who supported their care. This will have an adverse impact upon their whole life. CDC research in the states shows that kids who have had covid are approx twice as likely to have a PE, myocarditis or venous thromboembolic event as those who haven't had covid. These will have to be balanced against the negative impacts of closures ieloss of education, increase in harm at home, etc. However lets not forget the covid scenario we faced in early 2020, the lack of info we had on covid, the lack of a vaccine, that decision making was easy re lock downs nor should we forget the Public Health and medical/scientific advice, based on many years of experience in managing outbreaks of deadly diseases that lockdowns including school closures were required.
From that same CDC study
“Patients with COVID-19 were less likely than were those without to experience respiratory signs and symptoms (0.91), symptoms of mental conditions (0.91), sleeping disorders (0.91), neurological conditions (0.94), anxiety and fear-related disorders (0.85), mood disorders (0.78), and muscle disorders (0.94); no significant associations were found for the remaining five symptoms and conditions.”
Covid sounds brill, wish I had it. Off course this was published in the CDC's own in-house, non peer-reviewed journal, and funnily enough, backs up their policy advice.
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Stop posting crap :Bulldog:
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mat the expat wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:44 am Stop posting crap :Bulldog:
+1
If he does that means no more post from him .
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That’s not very NPR of you
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Yay, another bat-fvcker disease


China sounds alarm after detecting NEW 'Langya' virus with 35 infected

DOCTORS in China have sounded the alarm over a newly detected virus.

“Langya” virus has infected 35 people so far in two provinces in eastern China, Taiwan’s Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said.

The virus – officially named Langya henipavirus (LayV) – is entirely novel, meaning it has not infected humans before.

However, it is in the Henipavirus family, of which two species have been identified before – the Hendra virus and Nipah virus.

These produce often severe and fatal illnesses in people – and there are no vaccines or treatments.

Henipavirus is classified as biosafety Level 4 with case fatality rates between 40 and 75 per cent, according to the data from World Health Organization (WHO).

None of the 35 patients who are infected with the new Langya virus have died, and none have been serious, according to the Global Times.

In an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), scientists in China reported that the patients were tested because they were febrile.

Their symptoms were most commonly fever, fatigue, a cough, loss of appetite, muscle pain, nausea, headache and vomiting.

The patients had a history of contact with animals, the paper said.

But, given there is a cluster of cases, it suggests the virus may have passed between humans already.

The paper said: “There was no close contact or common exposure history among the patients, which suggests that the infection in the human population may be sporadic.

“Contact tracing of nine patients with 15 close-contact family members revealed no close-contact LayV transmission.

“But our sample size was too small to determine the status of human-to-human transmission for LayV.”

It was suspected by the scientists that shrews were the most obvious carrier of Langya virus among 25 animals studied.

It is reminiscent of the Covid pandemic days, when China reported only a handful of novel coronavirus cases which were thought to be only related to animal transmission.

Zoonotic diseases – those that jump from animal to humans – are increasingly becoming a global health worry.

So-called “Disease X” is thought to be just around the corner, experts say, causing another huge pandemic.

Several factors are causing more of these viruses, which include Covid, Zika and Ebola, to emerge.

These include the destruction of natural habitats, wildlife consumption and trade, and climate change.

Nipah virus was first discovered in 1999, in Malaysia and Singapore when 100 deaths occurred out of 300 cases.
The brain-swelling virus has caused only a handful of outbreaks in the past two decades.

But it has the potential to cause a pandemic, the CDC warns.

Meanwhile, Hendra virus was first found in 1994 in Brisbane, Australia, with bats identified as the source.
Only seven cases of the virus have been reported.
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Ymx wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:18 pm Yay, another bat-fvcker disease


China sounds alarm after detecting NEW 'Langya' virus with 35 infected

DOCTORS in China have sounded the alarm over a newly detected virus.

“Langya” virus has infected 35 people so far in two provinces in eastern China, Taiwan’s Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said.

The virus – officially named Langya henipavirus (LayV) – is entirely novel, meaning it has not infected humans before.

However, it is in the Henipavirus family, of which two species have been identified before – the Hendra virus and Nipah virus.

These produce often severe and fatal illnesses in people – and there are no vaccines or treatments.

Henipavirus is classified as biosafety Level 4 with case fatality rates between 40 and 75 per cent, according to the data from World Health Organization (WHO).

None of the 35 patients who are infected with the new Langya virus have died, and none have been serious, according to the Global Times.

In an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), scientists in China reported that the patients were tested because they were febrile.

Their symptoms were most commonly fever, fatigue, a cough, loss of appetite, muscle pain, nausea, headache and vomiting.

The patients had a history of contact with animals, the paper said.

But, given there is a cluster of cases, it suggests the virus may have passed between humans already.

The paper said: “There was no close contact or common exposure history among the patients, which suggests that the infection in the human population may be sporadic.

“Contact tracing of nine patients with 15 close-contact family members revealed no close-contact LayV transmission.

“But our sample size was too small to determine the status of human-to-human transmission for LayV.”

It was suspected by the scientists that shrews were the most obvious carrier of Langya virus among 25 animals studied.

It is reminiscent of the Covid pandemic days, when China reported only a handful of novel coronavirus cases which were thought to be only related to animal transmission.

Zoonotic diseases – those that jump from animal to humans – are increasingly becoming a global health worry.

So-called “Disease X” is thought to be just around the corner, experts say, causing another huge pandemic.

Several factors are causing more of these viruses, which include Covid, Zika and Ebola, to emerge.

These include the destruction of natural habitats, wildlife consumption and trade, and climate change.

Nipah virus was first discovered in 1999, in Malaysia and Singapore when 100 deaths occurred out of 300 cases.
The brain-swelling virus has caused only a handful of outbreaks in the past two decades.

But it has the potential to cause a pandemic, the CDC warns.

Meanwhile, Hendra virus was first found in 1994 in Brisbane, Australia, with bats identified as the source.
Only seven cases of the virus have been reported.
Perhaps we should isolate the rest of the world from China.
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I guess Bill Gates needs to release an upgrade to his nano-chips.

Just like the old days having to upgrade your PC every couple of years.
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Ymx wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:18 pm Yay, another bat-fvcker disease


China sounds alarm after detecting NEW 'Langya' virus with 35 infected

DOCTORS in China have sounded the alarm over a newly detected virus.

“Langya” virus has infected 35 people so far in two provinces in eastern China, Taiwan’s Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said.

The virus – officially named Langya henipavirus (LayV) – is entirely novel, meaning it has not infected humans before.

However, it is in the Henipavirus family, of which two species have been identified before – the Hendra virus and Nipah virus.

These produce often severe and fatal illnesses in people – and there are no vaccines or treatments.

Henipavirus is classified as biosafety Level 4 with case fatality rates between 40 and 75 per cent, according to the data from World Health Organization (WHO).

None of the 35 patients who are infected with the new Langya virus have died, and none have been serious, according to the Global Times.

In an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), scientists in China reported that the patients were tested because they were febrile.

Their symptoms were most commonly fever, fatigue, a cough, loss of appetite, muscle pain, nausea, headache and vomiting.

The patients had a history of contact with animals, the paper said.

But, given there is a cluster of cases, it suggests the virus may have passed between humans already.

The paper said: “There was no close contact or common exposure history among the patients, which suggests that the infection in the human population may be sporadic.

“Contact tracing of nine patients with 15 close-contact family members revealed no close-contact LayV transmission.

“But our sample size was too small to determine the status of human-to-human transmission for LayV.”

It was suspected by the scientists that shrews were the most obvious carrier of Langya virus among 25 animals studied.

It is reminiscent of the Covid pandemic days, when China reported only a handful of novel coronavirus cases which were thought to be only related to animal transmission.

Zoonotic diseases – those that jump from animal to humans – are increasingly becoming a global health worry.

So-called “Disease X” is thought to be just around the corner, experts say, causing another huge pandemic.

Several factors are causing more of these viruses, which include Covid, Zika and Ebola, to emerge.

These include the destruction of natural habitats, wildlife consumption and trade, and climate change.

Nipah virus was first discovered in 1999, in Malaysia and Singapore when 100 deaths occurred out of 300 cases.
The brain-swelling virus has caused only a handful of outbreaks in the past two decades.

But it has the potential to cause a pandemic, the CDC warns.

Meanwhile, Hendra virus was first found in 1994 in Brisbane, Australia, with bats identified as the source.
Only seven cases of the virus have been reported.
Just how much meat is there on a ffykin shrew?
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That's mental - and substantially to the China Vax not being as good and having poor take up in the elderly. If China opens up like the west they will have millions dead.

UK approved the first covalent variant vaccine for use this week, addresses both the original Wuhan and the first Omicron variant. Only tested on a few hundred people though. I don't know how different the vaccine is under the mrna types, how likely a change like this is likely to produce a negative effect. I doubt anyone else on here does either. Pfizer have a similar one on the way. I'm due another booster later in the year as I'm over 50, but they'll have pumped it into millions before me.
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That is simply unsustainable. The government needs to step up and doing something, um, positive. They have the resources. They could triple vax everybody in the country as fast as the vaccine allows if they chose. They could block all movement in and out of specific provinces and put extra health staff in the ones they open up using a staggered approach. They've got more options than any other government on the planet pretty much.
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Looks like the next wave is well underway! Get your boosters and your flu jab whilst you're there.
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dpedin wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:57 pm Looks like the next wave is well underway! Get your boosters and your flu jab whilst you're there.

Flu jab booked, no notice of Covid booster yet
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dpedin wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:57 pm Looks like the next wave is well underway! Get your boosters and your flu jab whilst you're there.
Just got my 2nd booster this morning, work are offering flu jabs, & I think this year I'll take them up on it.

There were a lot more questions this time around, about whether I'd had side effects previously, & was I working in health care, or around immunosuppressed; I had the impression they were trying to track who was still following up on their boosters, as I imagine there's a concern that people are getting too casual again.
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dpedin wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:57 pm Looks like the next wave is well underway! Get your boosters and your flu jab whilst you're there.
Which one do you get in the UK?
I’ll stick with the Pfizer (D4&5 variants)
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Pffft. No need to get flu jab.

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Had flu jab and covid booster (Moderna) this morning, one in each arm. Then went and played round of golf straight afterwards, too nice a day not to. No ill effects from either jab and golf was pretty good too. To be fair I have ever had any reaction to previous vaccinations for covid or flu so perhaps I'm not a good test? My original date was for late Nov but I went into website (Scotland) on Friday and was able to search for an earlier date, I suspect I was lucky and found a cancelled slot in health centre about 5 mins from the house for today. In and out in 5 mins.
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Had flu and moderna on Wednesday.
Felt very hot and aching Thursday pm and went home early from work. Took Friday off and felt knackered all bloody day.
Have a very very hot arm at the jab site.
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C69 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:20 pm Had flu and moderna on Wednesday.
Felt very hot and aching Thursday pm and went home early from work. Took Friday off and felt knackered all bloody day.
Have a very very hot arm at the jab site.
Well it’ll save a bit on your heating bills. Get the family to huddle round.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I'm not sure if you lot are a bunch of softcocks, or I keep being in the control group, & just get saline.

All I get is a bit of an ache at the injection site, & that's gone by the next morning.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:50 pm I'm not sure if you lot are a bunch of softcocks, or I keep being in the control group, & just get saline.

All I get is a bit of an ache at the injection site, & that's gone by the next morning.
Ache in the arm has lingered for a few days for me each time. but only the second jab laid me low. Which came as a surprise since it was the same as my first (Pfizer).
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:50 pm I'm not sure if you lot are a bunch of softcocks, or I keep being in the control group, & just get saline.

All I get is a bit of an ache at the injection site, & that's gone by the next morning.
I'm the same as you
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Biffer wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:50 pm I'm not sure if you lot are a bunch of softcocks, or I keep being in the control group, & just get saline.

All I get is a bit of an ache at the injection site, & that's gone by the next morning.
I'm the same as you
Put me down for the same
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Interesting wee thread

And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Compared with the last booster rollout, locations to get it are few and far between here and for some reason far away from the main towns and places hard to get to other than by car. I should be eligible for one before the end of the year but have heard nothing yet...wouldn't be surprised if take up is low compared to the previous offerings.
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tabascoboy wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:42 am Compared with the last booster rollout, locations to get it are few and far between here and for some reason far away from the main towns and places hard to get to other than by car. I should be eligible for one before the end of the year but have heard nothing yet...wouldn't be surprised if take up is low compared to the previous offerings.
We have plenty of locations around Edinburgh area but the big centres have gone replaced by smaller more local ones. Also open across the week and weekends. When I went on Sunday morning it was busy but there were lots of staff and well organised so quick throughput. It was also good to see some joined up working with special team of folk there checking that every pensioner/disabled person was going to be able to keep warm over winter and if not they were sorting people out for grants or other SG support ie home care, links to local lunch clubs, new extra payments, etc.
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Flu jab usually knocks me about... as did the AZ and Moderna jabs... and actually after my AZ jab my arm hurt a lot driving home... until I realised it wasn't the arm that had been jabbed... I could be a hypochondriac... everything seems to hurt me...
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Biffer wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:24 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:20 pm Had flu and moderna on Wednesday.
Felt very hot and aching Thursday pm and went home early from work. Took Friday off and felt knackered all bloody day.
Have a very very hot arm at the jab site.
Well it’ll save a bit on your heating bills. Get the family to huddle round.
All good now lol.
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Interesting study? It has a number of caveats but it does look like the MAGA anti-vaxxers are killing themselves off and at the same time helping democrats win more elections - win:win as far as I'm concerned.
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dpedin wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:29 am

Interesting study? It has a number of caveats but it does look like the MAGA anti-vaxxers are killing themselves off and at the same time helping democrats win more elections - win:win as far as I'm concerned.
I've heard almost as many died from trying to supress their laughter.
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Mate of mine tested positive this morning, I was in the pub with him before the rugby on Saturday. Just a wait and see game for the next few days. Glad he let me know because I was going to go up and see my Mum(over 90) tonight.
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My mate tested positive yesterday too. 63, smoker, overweight, diabetic, previous health problems - first infection. Just hope it doesn't create too many problems for him!
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Yeah!

The Yanks are doing even more Gain of Function research on Covid.

Making their own version of Wuhan with added bits.


Yep, nothing will ever leak from a lab!!!!!

Oh and it kills 40% of mice infected with it.
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One bit of good news, the flu vaccine is apparently well-matched to the strains that are currently in circulation in the UK.
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Glaston wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:11 am Yeah!

The Yanks are doing even more Gain of Function research on Covid.

Making their own version of Wuhan with added bits.


Yep, nothing will ever leak from a lab!!!!!

Oh and it kills 40% of mice infected with it.
I thought it was 80% killed.

Farking disgraceful messing around with this sort of thing.
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Ymx wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:16 am
Glaston wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:11 am Yeah!

The Yanks are doing even more Gain of Function research on Covid.

Making their own version of Wuhan with added bits.


Yep, nothing will ever leak from a lab!!!!!

Oh and it kills 40% of mice infected with it.
I thought it was 80% killed.

Farking disgraceful messing around with this sort of thing.
And the 80% killed is, of course, lower than the 100% killed by the original Wuhan strain.

The word 'gain' is doing some heavy lifting here.
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Is that right?? Wuhan strain killed all mice infected by it?? Or is this a whoosh?

Jebus, those Chinese bastards really were trying to take us out.
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Ymx wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:34 pm Is that right?? Wuhan strain killed all mice infected by it?? Or is this a whoosh?

Jebus, those Chinese bastards really were trying to take us out.
It's not a whoosh.

My understanding is the took the spike protein from micron and stuck it on the original virus to compare.

That actually sounds like relevant research.
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Just in case folk forgot about covid fall out during the political shitshow. Looks like deaths in England and Wales are up 7% compared to pre pandemic levels, adjusted for age and population growth it is still above pre pandemic levels. No one is entirely sure how much of this is down to covid and how much is due to a struggling NHS and/or cost of living crisis but similar pattern is being seen across Europe so more likely covid related?
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Or weakened immunity from lockdowns
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