Springbokke next 4 years to 2027

[Sards]

Nah.

[Blake]

More stressed about the centres. Three crowbars and no playmaker. To many much sameness

Ja, I'm not happy with 12 and 13 either.

Kriel has not impressed at 13 at all. some people harp on about his understanding of the Bok defense and I get that, but There is a huge step down from Am to Kriel, especially on attack. Kriel creates nothing; no space for the wing, no options for an inside runner, no threat as somebody that might break the line. Watching Henco van Wyk with interest, because we seriously need some depth after Am.

DDA has been a dud for 3 years now. Had a great RWC in 2019, and has regressed as a playe. Living off of reputation at this point. Doesn't bosh well anymore, doesn't seem able to pass (which was never a strength of his anyway) and how now added a very shit kicking game to his repertoire. Those grubbers into touch he keeps kicking when he has a 2 man overlap and doesn't trust his passing game drive me up the fucking wall. I've never been a fan of Esterhuizen, but I'd rather have him at 12 right now. His performances at Quins proves that Nienaber and Rassie haven't managed to get the best out of him as a player. If Willemse wasn't needed at 10, I'd prefer him at 12 over DDA as well; at least he tries to be a playmaker and create some opportunities. DDA is a black hole. Most of our tries come when he hasn't touched the ball.

[LoveOfTheGame]

More stressed about the centres. Three crowbars and no playmaker. To many much sameness

Ja, I'm not happy with 12 and 13 either.

Kriel has not impressed at 13 at all. some people harp on about his understanding of the Bok defense and I get that, but There is a huge step down from Am to Kriel, especially on attack. Kriel creates nothing; no space for the wing, no options for an inside runner, no threat as somebody that might break the line. Watching Henco van Wyk with interest, because we seriously need some depth after Am.

DDA has been a dud for 3 years now. Had a great RWC in 2019, and has regressed as a playe. Living off of reputation at this point. Doesn't bosh well anymore, doesn't seem able to pass (which was never a strength of his anyway) and how now added a very shit kicking game to his repertoire. Those grubbers into touch he keeps kicking when he has a 2 man overlap and doesn't trust his passing game drive me up the fucking wall. I've never been a fan of Esterhuizen, but I'd rather have him at 12 right now. His performances at Quins proves that Nienaber and Rassie haven't managed to get the best out of him as a player. If Willemse wasn't needed at 10, I'd prefer him at 12 over DDA as well; at least he tries to be a playmaker and create some opportunities. DDA is a black hole. Most of our tries come when he hasn't touched the ball.

What are your thoughts on RJVR?

[Blake]

What are your thoughts on RJVR?

He's always been a quality player. Looked good at the Lions. Didn't really follow him closely at Sale, only really saw him feature in some highlight packages here and there.
Followed Quins more closely than Sales so can't really comment on him.

His couple of outings at the Shell Sea $harks haven't really impressed me, but it's early days.
I think there's still a helluva player in there so hope he can get his tackling technique sorted.

[assfly]

Shell Sea $harks

[handyman]

We need to get Henco van Wyk into the group.

[average joe]

Cois is also back but at 31 he's a bit of a yesterday's hero.

[OomStruisbaai]

South Africa A update:

IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze

OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels

[handyman]

South Africa A update:

IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze

OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels

Eskom having a horror run with injuries.

[Sards]

South Africa A update:

IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze

OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels

Eskom having a horror run with injuries.

Those replacements make a lot more sense than the first team replacements. Like for like

[FalseBayFC]

South Africa A update:

IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze

OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels

Eskom having a horror run with injuries.

A bit like RG Snyman. I have a horrible feeling that they won't come out the other side. Having said that, Marcell Coetzee went through something similar and is now unbreakable. Touch wood.

[Sards]

South Africa A update:

IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze

OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels

Eskom having a horror run with injuries.

A bit like RG Snyman. I have a horrible feeling that they won't come out the other side. Having said that, Marcell Coetzee went through something similar and is now unbreakable. Touch wood.

Now you have jinxed it

[boere wors]

The arrogance of our coaching team regarding selections is just ridiculous. Expecting Willemse to just walk into the flyhalf position against the no 1 Team in the world. Kolbe likewise into fullback. The boks were poor and without a proper goalkicker and flyhalf are going to be in for a tough November

[Sards]

The arrogance of our coaching team regarding selections is just ridiculous. Expecting Willemse to just walk into the flyhalf position against the no 1 Team in the world. Kolbe likewise into fullback. The boks were poor and without a proper goalkicker and flyhalf are going to be in for a tough November

What was worst for me was that they disregarded all the other young flyhalves and put all their money on Willemse and when he started missing he just gave up and let Kolbe take over the kicking duties. That was dik swak.

I said this day would come. I also said our backline does not work with Willemse. It's just a defensive line . Rassnabber put all their money on one horse and lost their house in the process. Imagine the pressure on Libbok coming in against France. No previous experience playing with the first team.

Rassnabber have bottled this and deserve all the criticism

[Sards]

Where is ouboet to defend wunderkind.

Where are all those that slated me for saying Rassnabber was making a huge mistake for not getting Manie in when Pollard got injured. Where are all of those that criticised me when I said our backline does not work with Willemse.

Vok you all. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. And yes. The Stormers players lost us that test

[Blake]

Kitshoff, Malherbe and Fourie all played okay. Which Stormers player other than Willemse played badly?

[Sards]

Kitshoff, Malherbe and Fourie all played okay. Which Stormers player other than Willemse played badly?

Our scrum was not working yesterday. Kittsie and Malherbe did not dominate. Fourie was ok

[OomStruisbaai]

Where is ouboet to defend wunderkind.

Where are all those that slated me for saying Rassnabber was making a huge mistake for not getting Manie in when Pollard got injured. Where are all of those that criticised me when I said our backline does not work with Willemse.

Vok you all. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. And yes. The Stormers players lost us that test

Willemse had a bad day, kicking that is. Surely you enjoy it.

[Sards]

Where is ouboet to defend wunderkind.

Where are all those that slated me for saying Rassnabber was making a huge mistake for not getting Manie in when Pollard got injured. Where are all of those that criticised me when I said our backline does not work with Willemse.

Vok you all. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. And yes. The Stormers players lost us that test

Willemse had a bad day, kicking that is. Surely you enjoy it.

In all aspects of flyhalf play. And it was cowardly to give the kicking duties to Kolbe. Especially when he had been practicing the whole week. And I hate losing a game because of 1 player

[assfly]

I actually think we played quite well, bar Willemse. That was a seriously good test match against a quality team.

As well as flyhalf, I feel our bomb squad isn't what it used to be. The Fourie selection still baffles me; I just don't see the merit of having a fetcher on the bench when it was always going to be a tight game. Either start him, or put a proper impact player on the bench.

[OomStruisbaai]

The real test will be France. Surprise the Wallabies ran them close.

[Sards]

Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.

"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.

Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.

Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...

[boere wors]

He didnt have a bad day. Willemse is simply not a goal kicker and not a flyhalf. And the arrogance from Nienaber continues: practicing and working on it the next week. He still things he is on the right path with him. I have to say, I feel sorry for Willemse. He is fucked over properly. He is a 12 and nothing else. Which sane person plays a player at International Level in a position where he isnt used at club level. While the clubs first choice in that position is in the squad. That arrogance.

[boere wors]

I actually think we played quite well, bar Willemse. That was a seriously good test match against a quality team.

As well as flyhalf, I feel our bomb squad isn't what it used to be. The Fourie selection still baffles me; I just don't see the merit of having a fetcher on the bench when it was always going to be a tight game. Either start him, or put a proper impact player on the bench.

Imho the bomb squad is only about force. Replace the whole right five at 50-60 min when they have emptied their tank. 2 locks for that on the bench. If you play Eben for 80 min, the whole thing doesnt work.

With a proper flyhalf/goalkicker we should have won that game. Yet, we were still found out by Irland. Match the physicality and nothing else is going to come from the boks.

[OomStruisbaai]

It will have to be either Libbok or Sasha to start in 10 against France. Also agree with AF regarding the lose trio. OSdT and Kolisi is very much the same. Probably PSdT to the bench now that Lood is injured and Mostert to start. Fourie in the 6 role will be great. Either Jasper or Roos in 8.

[OomStruisbaai]

Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.

"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.

Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.

Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...

Your mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000

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[boere wors]

Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.

"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.

Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.

Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...

Your mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000

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That was a great kick under pressure. So what. He will have to slot >80% of all his kicks during a game. From every position on the field. Willemse is clearly not capable of doing that. No offence to him, he should never have been the goal kicker for the boks. Why would he? He doesnt do it for the stormers. Let alone be the playmaker. Libbok is in the squad, he would be that guy, as for the stormers. That arrogance...

[OomStruisbaai]

Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.

Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...

Your mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000

Your favourite Facebook

That was a great kick under pressure. So what. He will have to slot >80% of all his kicks during a game. From every position on the field. Willemse is clearly not capable of doing that. No offence to him, he should never have been the goal kicker for the boks. Why would he? He doesnt do it for the stormers. Let alone be the playmaker. Libbok is in the squad, he would be that guy, as for the stormers. That arrogance...

Vok jou man. Libbok also kick for shite for a long time. Now he is ask to kick, do that make him arrogant?

He kick like shite but his defense has always been top notch and should be 12 or 15. That's his best position.

I'd even risk Sasha MZ who is a brilliant kicker and flyhalf against the French or Libbok.

[Sards]

And in other news.
Rassie has made a new video to highlight how the refs have it in for the Springboks......

I seriously hope the rest of the world doesn't think we are all bad losers.
Hint for Rassie. Get a specialist kicker and we won't have to resort to looking for excuses

[boere wors]

Argentina just showed the worth of a reliable kicker.

[redderneck]

And in other news.
Rassie has made a new video to highlight how the refs have it in for the Springboks......

I seriously hope the rest of the world doesn't think we are all bad losers.
Hint for Rassie. Get a specialist kicker and we won't have to resort to looking for excuses

Intruding on your thread to just say that that ship has sadly sailed.

World Rugby needs to tackle bitching about officials by coaching staff; any role, any team, stiffarm style. Take them out of the game. Anyways, I'll leave ye to it. That was a hell of a contest.

[Sards]

Argentina just showed the worth of a reliable kicker.

Jealous AF

[boere wors]

Argentina just showed the worth of a reliable kicker.

Jealous AF

Totally. Bofelli is an outstanding kicker.

[Sards]

Now why would I be anti Libbok? Your team didn't renew his contract and you write him off. We made a star out of him.

Rasnaber have already selected their group of players which include Johan Goosen.

Do you think they'll select someone from they outside before their big squad?

Libbok can't play the Rasnaber way.
This is why he was a failure at the Bulls and a failure at the $harks.
At the WP/ Stormers they are trying to play a more complete game, with less of the mindless kicking of the ball away.

If chosen by Rasnaber and forced to play the Rasnaber game plan, he will fail again.

Ja, try to explain this to Sards whose Sharks team play exactly the same. He wants Libbok because it hurt him to see Willemse in 10 in a Bok jersey. Willemse is good enough to slot in 10/15 or 12 because he got the skills Sards struggle to understand.

I am still struggling to understand

[Sards]

Damian Willemse will be our 10.

Tried and tested per Nienaber

We are comfortable with Damian and he has proven himself,” added Nienaber

Tried and tested. Eisch. He really has proven himself to be a petulant made up superstar after they refused to bring anyone else into the squad and left him as the only option and what happened. He couldn't carry through and in the process did huge damage to Kolbes reputation.

[Sards]

A pity Bosch was injured....

[Sards]

Rassie will be very lucky not to get another ban after his latest rant.

[average joe]

Libbok will disappoint just like Willemse.

Call in Ouboet or Oubaas Morne.

[assfly]

I agree. I think I'd prefer Morne over the other names being peddled. Starting a new face at 10 against France will be suicide.

[average joe]

Whilst we are on this subject. Does anyone have some sort of inside info on the du Preez family. It's like they're outcasts, did old toppie Robert and Rassie have a tiff or something.