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SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:24 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 am This twat must be short of money? Dorries had the whip withdrawn when she skipped work to take part
Didn't take long!!!
Former health secretary Matt Hancock has been suspended as a Conservative MP after joining the cast of I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!
Mr Hancock will swap representing his constituents at Westminster for eating bugs in the jungle.
But Tory party managers have taken a dim view of the West Suffolk MP's decision to take part in a reality TV show while Parliament is sitting.
The Tory chief whip said it was "serious enough" to warrant suspension.

Sources close Mr Hancock said: "Matt doesn't expect to serve in government again, so it's an incredible opportunity for him to engage with the 12 million Brits who tune in every single night.
Roughly translated: I need to earn a bit of cash on the side
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
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tabascoboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:29 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:24 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 am This twat must be short of money? Dorries had the whip withdrawn when she skipped work to take part
Didn't take long!!!
Former health secretary Matt Hancock has been suspended as a Conservative MP after joining the cast of I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!
Mr Hancock will swap representing his constituents at Westminster for eating bugs in the jungle.
But Tory party managers have taken a dim view of the West Suffolk MP's decision to take part in a reality TV show while Parliament is sitting.
The Tory chief whip said it was "serious enough" to warrant suspension.

Sources close Mr Hancock said: "Matt doesn't expect to serve in government again, so it's an incredible opportunity for him to engage with the 12 million Brits who tune in every single night.
Roughly translated: I need to earn a bit of cash on the side
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
He's got a messy divorce to fund, & he doesn't have mega-rich mates like the BB to pay for his sexual incontinence
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SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 am This twat must be short of money? Dorries had the whip withdrawn when she skipped work to take part
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:36 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:29 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:24 am
Didn't take long!!!

Roughly translated: I need to earn a bit of cash on the side
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
He's got a messy divorce to fund, & he doesn't have mega-rich mates like the BB to pay for his sexual incontinence
What happened to all the kick-backs he got from awarding £multi-million PPE contracts to his mates?
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Lobby wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:46 am
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:36 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:29 am
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
He's got a messy divorce to fund, & he doesn't have mega-rich mates like the BB to pay for his sexual incontinence
What happened to all the kick-backs he got from awarding £multi-million PPE contracts to his mates?
Quite!!
He also has a lot of local wealthy "supporters" for his constituency office in Newmarket
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Lobby wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:46 am
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:36 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:29 am
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
He's got a messy divorce to fund, & he doesn't have mega-rich mates like the BB to pay for his sexual incontinence
What happened to all the kick-backs he got from awarding £multi-million PPE contracts to his mates?
Not in cabinet anymore so he's no longer of any use to them. You don't think they do loyalty do you?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Earlier today the Daily Mail's Andrew Pierce was furious at Matt Hancock for taking the reality TV gig. He asked if you vote to keep them in or out because he wants him to be humiliated on live tv as much as possible.

I missed the part being reported on Twitter where he said Hancock was a "dickhead".

For once Pierce is correct, stopped clock and all that.
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SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 am This twat must be short of money? Dorries had the whip withdrawn when she skipped work to take part
Let's hope he encounters something terribly poisonous whilst partaking. I'd tune in for that episode.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:07 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:54 am This twat must be short of money? Dorries had the whip withdrawn when she skipped work to take part
Let's hope he encounters something terribly poisonous whilst partaking. I'd tune in for that episode.
Evidently he's only doing it so that he can reach out to the millions who watch it and tell them all about dyslexia he suffered from and the bill about it he's sponsoring in Parliament.
Nothing to do with the £250k-£350k he is reportedly receiving for doing the show or the book that due to be published in a few weeks about how he dealt with the pandemic so well and all the people who died in care homes on his watch!

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SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:29 am
Evidently he's only doing it so that he can reach out to the millions who watch it and tell them all about dyslexia he suffered from and the bill about it he's sponsoring in Parliament.
Nothing to do with the £250k-£350k he is reportedly receiving for doing the show or the book that due to be published in a few weeks about how he dealt with the pandemic so well and all the people who died in care homes on his watch!


Andrew Pierce suggested this morning that Hancock had a ghost writer for his diaries - I mean, wtaf
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Screeeeeech! But who's counting?
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SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:03 am Screeeeeech! But who's counting?
a fine tory tradition
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I don't suppose they'll withdraw the whip from this scrote ?

His constituents are used to having no representative.

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Whoever created this is an utter genius

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ASMO wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:16 pm Whoever created this is an utter genius

Brilliant :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Time to rename Prime Minister's Questions as Prime Minister Evades, Obfuscates and Says Everything is the Opposition's Fault.

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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:29 pm Time to rename Prime Minister's Questions as Prime Minister Evades, Obfuscates and Says Everything is the Opposition's Fault.

I said this last week after his first one - I'd never seen a PMQ's where the PM avoided, or just didn't answer, so many questions. It was pretty much all of them last week,
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Slick wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:37 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:29 pm Time to rename Prime Minister's Questions as Prime Minister Evades, Obfuscates and Says Everything is the Opposition's Fault.

I said this last week after his first one - I'd never seen a PMQ's where the PM avoided, or just didn't answer, so many questions. It was pretty much all of them last week,
Sunak just isn't very good at all! He is a bit like a school prefect getting caught out cheating in an exam and trying to deny it despite being caught red handed.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:29 pm Time to rename Prime Minister's Questions as Prime Minister Evades, Obfuscates and Says Everything is the Opposition's Fault.

Yep!!
How do you decide who won PMQs? There is no straightforward, a vast array of subjective judgements and assessments come into play, and whatever you write, someone is bound to disagree – but (for the last year or so, at least) there is one failsafe rule that applies; if the Tory PM has to start banging on about Keir Starmer supporting Jeremy Corbyn, then they haven’t won.
Sunak lost because all six questions were on immigration, and he could not defend his party’s record.
But it was worse than that. By my count, Starmer won 6-0, in that, in every exchange, he had the edge. Others might have scored a couple of the exchanges as draws, but in general terms Starmer was clearly dominant. And that is partly because he varied his approach, deploying almost all the PMQs tricks that make a question successful.
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The scumbag's scumbag at it again!
The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen faces suspension from the House of Commons and has been asked to apologise after a cross-party committee found that he repeatedly breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.
The standards committee endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, that Bridgen broke the MPs’ code of conduct after he approached ministers and officials on behalf of a forestry company that had given him a donation, a visit to Ghana and the offer of an advisory contract.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... -breaches
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SaintK wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:08 am The scumbag's scumbag at it again!
The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen faces suspension from the House of Commons and has been asked to apologise after a cross-party committee found that he repeatedly breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.
The standards committee endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, that Bridgen broke the MPs’ code of conduct after he approached ministers and officials on behalf of a forestry company that had given him a donation, a visit to Ghana and the offer of an advisory contract.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... -breaches
Once a Cnut always a Cnut! The judge in his recent court case was 100% right! 'The 57-year-old was branded "dishonest" by a High Court judge in March - who ruled that Bridgen "lied" under oath. Judge Brian Rawlings said he was so dishonest that nothing he said about the dispute with AB Produce, a vegetable and potato supplier based in Measham, could be taken at face value.'
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dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:15 am
SaintK wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:08 am The scumbag's scumbag at it again!
The Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen faces suspension from the House of Commons and has been asked to apologise after a cross-party committee found that he repeatedly breached rules on paid lobbying and declaring interests.
The standards committee endorsed findings from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, that Bridgen broke the MPs’ code of conduct after he approached ministers and officials on behalf of a forestry company that had given him a donation, a visit to Ghana and the offer of an advisory contract.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... -breaches
Once a Cnut always a Cnut! The judge in his recent court case was 100% right! 'The 57-year-old was branded "dishonest" by a High Court judge in March - who ruled that Bridgen "lied" under oath. Judge Brian Rawlings said he was so dishonest that nothing he said about the dispute with AB Produce, a vegetable and potato supplier based in Measham, could be taken at face value.'
He also accused his brother of fraud, & the police wasted a lot of time investigating this false claim; but so far zero consequences for the shit stain !
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So are these the "dangerous Albanian criminals" the Tory press keep telling us about?

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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:36 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:29 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:24 am
Didn't take long!!!

Roughly translated: I need to earn a bit of cash on the side
"Energy cost crisis? What energy cost crisis? It's plenty warm here in the Australian summer, ha-ha you plebs.."
He's got a messy divorce to fund, & he doesn't have mega-rich mates like the BB to pay for his sexual incontinence
No wonder he scuttled off to do it! Reckons he's going to give a proportion of gfee to charity...............yeah righty ho!
A source said: “Matt’s pay deal with I’m A Celebrity is around £400,000 which is one of the largest ever show fees to have been paid out.
“ITV were keen for viewers to think the deal was worth around £150,000 but in reality it’s over double that.
“They asked him to be on the show three times in a matter of weeks and the money definitely helped seal the deal.”
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:45 am So are these the "dangerous Albanian criminals" the Tory press keep telling us about?

Maybe not but the Albanians are running most of the prostitution and women trafficking rings these days.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:07 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:45 am So are these the "dangerous Albanian criminals" the Tory press keep telling us about?

Maybe not but the Albanians are running most of the prostitution and women trafficking rings these days.
It would appear that these were young Afghan refugees
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... perience
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SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:36 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:07 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:45 am So are these the "dangerous Albanian criminals" the Tory press keep telling us about?

Maybe not but the Albanians are running most of the prostitution and women trafficking rings these days.
It would appear that these were young Afghan refugees
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/20 ... perience
Let's not let facts and details get in the way of the beautiful racist, xenophobic shite the glorious all powerful Government of the People wishes to promulgate! How else are they going to distract us away from their shite economic record, a mini PM out of his depth, a law breaking racist Home Secretary, their MPS being suspended from the HoC, a disastrously failing Brexit and forthcoming tax rises and austerity 2.0. Cut them a bit off slack for feck sake, how are they supposed to survive without the dodgy PPE contracts and illegal lobbying now? You have no feckin sympathy for the poor people of this country having to survive on £85k, expenses and a subsidised restaurant. You should be ashamed.
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The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:12 am The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
They'll be hoisted by their own petard though. They can't and won't stop it without closer cooperation with France and safe asylum routes - neither of which are palatable to the opinion setting ghouls in the redtops. This issue will destroy Braverman as it did Patel who was just as committed to ending it.

It's actually very stupid politics.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:12 am The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
And all this despite the very inconvenient truth, that numbers are nowhere near as high as the scare-mongers claim
The UK receives far fewer asylum applications per capita than other European countries

...The UK received eight asylum applicants for every 10,000 people across the country in 2020/21, the figures show. This compared with just under 23 for Germany and just under 18 in France. Cyprus received 153 applicants for every 10,000 people in the country, the highest among 32 European countries...

...The significant and highly visible trend that has become central to current political debate is the rise in small boat arrivals. Almost 40,000 people have crossed the Channel in small boats so far in 2022, according to government data – the highest number since figures were first gathered in 2018. In 2021, the total was 28,526 people, while in 2020 it was 8,404.

Nearly all of those arriving by small boats claim asylum, according to the Home Office and the Ministry of Defence.

The top five nationalities entering by small boat in the first quarter of 2022 were Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian and Eritrean, all of whom have very high chances of being granted asylum....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... are_btn_tw
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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:27 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:12 am The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
And all this despite the very inconvenient truth, that numbers are nowhere near as high as the scare-mongers claim
The UK receives far fewer asylum applications per capita than other European countries

...The UK received eight asylum applicants for every 10,000 people across the country in 2020/21, the figures show. This compared with just under 23 for Germany and just under 18 in France. Cyprus received 153 applicants for every 10,000 people in the country, the highest among 32 European countries...

...The significant and highly visible trend that has become central to current political debate is the rise in small boat arrivals. Almost 40,000 people have crossed the Channel in small boats so far in 2022, according to government data – the highest number since figures were first gathered in 2018. In 2021, the total was 28,526 people, while in 2020 it was 8,404.

Nearly all of those arriving by small boats claim asylum, according to the Home Office and the Ministry of Defence.

The top five nationalities entering by small boat in the first quarter of 2022 were Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian and Eritrean, all of whom have very high chances of being granted asylum....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... are_btn_tw
I imagine it's also quite hard to arrive in Germany in a small boat, unless you are sailing up the Danube.
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Despite all the noise about Albanians the UK only approved 1/3 of applications from this group of asylum seekers between 2017-2019. Current info is not available as there is a huge backlog of initial applications with over 100,000 in a queue, over 60,000 are over 6 months old. As Starmer rightfully pointed out currently only 6% of initial asylum claims were dealt with within 6 months of being made. Also remember that many appeals are successful so the figures are even more difficult to assess.

For some good reliable info about migration see:

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/r ... uk-asylum/
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Rumours that both Sizewell and a lot of the rail improvements in the north are going to be scrapped now that we have a grown up sensible government again.

We are absolutely addicted to making ourselves poorer
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:10 am Rumours that both Sizewell and a lot of the rail improvements in the north are going to be scrapped now that we have a grown up sensible government again.

We are absolutely addicted to making ourselves poorer
Meanwhile you've an aircraft carrier you paid billions for, up on bricks. The spending priorities are fucked.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:18 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:12 am The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
They'll be hoisted by their own petard though. They can't and won't stop it without closer cooperation with France and safe asylum routes - neither of which are palatable to the opinion setting ghouls in the redtops. This issue will destroy Braverman as it did Patel who was just as committed to ending it.

It's actually very stupid politics.
But it satisfies a certain section of the voting public, who the Tories need to have any hope of retaining power (apart from all the voter disenfranchisement they are merrily carrying on with).
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:23 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:10 am Rumours that both Sizewell and a lot of the rail improvements in the north are going to be scrapped now that we have a grown up sensible government again.

We are absolutely addicted to making ourselves poorer
Meanwhile you've an aircraft carrier you paid billions for, up on bricks. The spending priorities are fucked.
Ship needs maintenance shocker.
None of this is about priorities, it is a Treasury addiction to squeezing capital spending until the pips squeak.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:25 am
I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:18 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:12 am The "invasion" has certainly done a beautiful job of distracting away from all the shit.
They'll be hoisted by their own petard though. They can't and won't stop it without closer cooperation with France and safe asylum routes - neither of which are palatable to the opinion setting ghouls in the redtops. This issue will destroy Braverman as it did Patel who was just as committed to ending it.

It's actually very stupid politics.
But it satisfies a certain section of the voting public, who the Tories need to have any hope of retaining power (apart from all the voter disenfranchisement they are merrily carrying on with).
Not sure this is true, approval of their immigration policy is running at 6%. If you want to talk about an invasion etc then you need immigration to be low or none and have a clear handle on it, rather than net migration being at 1 million and the asylum system breaking down. If you want liberal votes you need to not sound cruel whilst doing so. They're failing on both ends
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:29 am
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:23 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:10 am Rumours that both Sizewell and a lot of the rail improvements in the north are going to be scrapped now that we have a grown up sensible government again.

We are absolutely addicted to making ourselves poorer
Meanwhile you've an aircraft carrier you paid billions for, up on bricks. The spending priorities are fucked.
Ship needs maintenance shocker.
None of this is about priorities, it is a Treasury addiction to squeezing capital spending until the pips squeak.
They don't usually need maintenance after having travelled less miles than the Isle of White ferry though :wink:


... and it's not just maintenance, it sounds like one entire drive train needs to be replaced
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:10 am Rumours that both Sizewell and a lot of the rail improvements in the north are going to be scrapped now that we have a grown up sensible government again.

We are absolutely addicted to making ourselves poorer
Wtf is this we shit?
This is the same Government that you voted for and have been in power for 12 years.
They own it, they own the Police failures, the NHS crisis, the massive immigration and the channel crisis, and they own the cost of living crisis and the massive increases in Interest rates and mortgage payments that people will be having for years.
They have driven us into the deepest recession for decades

I am not part of this "we" ffs. Have a look at yourself ffs. If you are going to blame anyone, get the mirror out.
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