Don't worry, he'll play for his dad. If his dad calls him up, of course.
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clydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:54 am
Don't worry, he'll play for his dad. If his dad calls him up, of course.
It's funny how these stories linking players with other clubs come about when their contracts are up for renewal, eh?
La Rochelle is another club being mentioned. There's an interview where Russell is quoted as saying he likes France and the lifestyle - who doesn't? He could have three or four more years playing at the top level there, which could set him up for a good while, then go on to other pursuits, sounds like a good plan.
Does he strike anyone as a potential coach? There are some players you just know they will/would make great coaches, I always thought that about Leo Cullen, just from how he talked to referees and managed the game. When I read a couple of things from Mike Blair I was very impressed by his analysis, but I didn't see it in his playing days.
I can see him retiring and setting up “Finns Bar” in Paris with a group of mates which becomes a Mecca for Scottish rugby fans where he sits at the end of the bar regaling us with stories whilst helping out coaching with the local D6 club.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:15 amclydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:54 am
Don't worry, he'll play for his dad. If his dad calls him up, of course.
It's funny how these stories linking players with other clubs come about when their contracts are up for renewal, eh?
La Rochelle is another club being mentioned. There's an interview where Russell is quoted as saying he likes France and the lifestyle - who doesn't? He could have three or four more years playing at the top level there, which could set him up for a good while, then go on to other pursuits, sounds like a good plan.
Does he strike anyone as a potential coach? There are some players you just know they will/would make great coaches, I always thought that about Leo Cullen, just from how he talked to referees and managed the game. When I read a couple of things from Mike Blair I was very impressed by his analysis, but I didn't see it in his playing days.
Then in 2034 with Scottish rugby in the doldrums he is dramatically asked to coach the team to the World Cup, like Maradonna, giving us all hope before getting kicked out by Namibia in our last pool game.
Something like that
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A bit more seriously, I’m not sure he has the communication skills for a head coach role, but I only know him off the telly. He does seem to have an incredible rugby brain though so maybe as some kind of attack coach or analyst. He doesn’t really seem the type but who knows
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Yep, apparently Racing aren't offering him top terms for his renewal, so expect this is just his agent twisting their arms.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:15 amclydecloggie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:54 am
Don't worry, he'll play for his dad. If his dad calls him up, of course.
It's funny how these stories linking players with other clubs come about when their contracts are up for renewal, eh?
La Rochelle is another club being mentioned. There's an interview where Russell is quoted as saying he likes France and the lifestyle - who doesn't? He could have three or four more years playing at the top level there, which could set him up for a good while, then go on to other pursuits, sounds like a good plan.
Does he strike anyone as a potential coach? There are some players you just know they will/would make great coaches, I always thought that about Leo Cullen, just from how he talked to referees and managed the game. When I read a couple of things from Mike Blair I was very impressed by his analysis, but I didn't see it in his playing days.
Talk of Barrett (B) off to France as well, which might influence things, although didn't think that would be Racing 92.
Edinburgh Rugby team to face Benetton Rugby at Stadio Monigo in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Saturday 26 November (kick-off 1pm BST/2pm local) – live on Viaplay.
15. Henry Immelman (21)
14. Damien Hoyland (98)
13. Matt Currie (16)
12. James Lang (24)
11. Wes Goosen (2)
10. Charlie Savala (18)
9. Henry Pyrgos (76)
1. Boan Venter (32)
2. Stuart McInally (169)
3. Angus Williams (15)
4. Marshall Sykes (27)
5. Jamie Hodgson (44)
6. Nick Haining (29)
7. Luke Crosbie (75) CAPTAIN
8. Ben Muncaster (21)
Replacements
16. Paddy Harrison (6)
17. Jamie Jack*
18. Lee-Roy Atalifo (27)
19. Glen Young (15)
20. Connor Boyle (24)
21. Ben Vellacott (24)
22. Jaco van der Walt (91)
23. Chris Dean (127)
Unavailable: Nick Auterac, Dave Cherry, Cammy Hutchison, Adam McBurney, Sam Skinner, Hamish Watson.
Internationalists: Mark Bennett, Emiliano Boffelli, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Blair Kinghorn, Viliame Mata, WP Nel, Jamie Ritchie, Pierre Schoeman, Duhan van der Merwe.
*Edinburgh Rugby debut
Saturday 26 November (kick-off 1pm BST/2pm local) – live on Viaplay.
15. Henry Immelman (21)
14. Damien Hoyland (98)
13. Matt Currie (16)
12. James Lang (24)
11. Wes Goosen (2)
10. Charlie Savala (18)
9. Henry Pyrgos (76)
1. Boan Venter (32)
2. Stuart McInally (169)
3. Angus Williams (15)
4. Marshall Sykes (27)
5. Jamie Hodgson (44)
6. Nick Haining (29)
7. Luke Crosbie (75) CAPTAIN
8. Ben Muncaster (21)
Replacements
16. Paddy Harrison (6)
17. Jamie Jack*
18. Lee-Roy Atalifo (27)
19. Glen Young (15)
20. Connor Boyle (24)
21. Ben Vellacott (24)
22. Jaco van der Walt (91)
23. Chris Dean (127)
Unavailable: Nick Auterac, Dave Cherry, Cammy Hutchison, Adam McBurney, Sam Skinner, Hamish Watson.
Internationalists: Mark Bennett, Emiliano Boffelli, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Blair Kinghorn, Viliame Mata, WP Nel, Jamie Ritchie, Pierre Schoeman, Duhan van der Merwe.
*Edinburgh Rugby debut
Well I never! Broken again?westport wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:27 pm Edinburgh Rugby team to face Benetton Rugby at Stadio Monigo in the BKT United Rugby Championship
Saturday 26 November (kick-off 1pm BST/2pm local) – live on Viaplay.
15. Henry Immelman (21)
14. Damien Hoyland (98)
13. Matt Currie (16)
12. James Lang (24)
11. Wes Goosen (2)
10. Charlie Savala (18)
9. Henry Pyrgos (76)
1. Boan Venter (32)
2. Stuart McInally (169)
3. Angus Williams (15)
4. Marshall Sykes (27)
5. Jamie Hodgson (44)
6. Nick Haining (29)
7. Luke Crosbie (75) CAPTAIN
8. Ben Muncaster (21)
Replacements
16. Paddy Harrison (6)
17. Jamie Jack*
18. Lee-Roy Atalifo (27)
19. Glen Young (15)
20. Connor Boyle (24)
21. Ben Vellacott (24)
22. Jaco van der Walt (91)
23. Chris Dean (127)
Unavailable: Nick Auterac, Dave Cherry, Cammy Hutchison, Adam McBurney, Sam Skinner, Hamish Watson.
Internationalists: Mark Bennett, Emiliano Boffelli, Grant Gilchrist, Darcy Graham, Blair Kinghorn, Viliame Mata, WP Nel, Jamie Ritchie, Pierre Schoeman, Duhan van der Merwe.
*Edinburgh Rugby debut
Is that situation normal, then?
I know what you mean, but the other lads have been training together for four weeks and I think Blair has been really quite good at building depth, we need these guys to be up to scratch when it counts if there are any injuries or whatever, Cockerill was not good at it.
That's not too far off the Italy pack that Edinburgh will be facing, but we've certainly got some heft and aggression in our forwards.
I've liked what I've seen in Savala this season.
If you'd offered me that Embra backline four or five years ago I would have bitten your hand off
Plus, there is a long run of games to January after this where we are going to need the first team out every week
Would be interesting to see his unavailibility due to injury stats over his career. Certainly at Bath, Quins and Saints he appeared to be unavailble more times than he was aavailable. Wasn't a regular first choice at any of those so I may be doing him a bit of a disservice
Jesus, they’re going to lose to a team playing with 14 men for 70 minutes.
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There’s a downside to Wales throwing away a 21-point lead v Australia - they may sack Pivac and get someone good. And I NEED a win v Wales.
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Wales had their golden generation, did exceptionally well but that's over now and the games between us and them will become much more even. They have the same issues as us - football taking over, age grades a bit of a mess and the far bigger issue is their administration of the pro clubs.
I feel that culturally rugby is losing a huge amount with populations more city than region based. The Borders, the Valleys etc just aren't viable production lines anymore.
Put the petition in the Doddie thread but thought I'd stick it in here too. Would be great to have a stand named for him.
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London Scottish is delighted to announce that Max Williamson and Jamie Drummond will join the Club from Glasgow Warriors on short term loan deals.
Whilst at London Scottish, Max and Jamie will have the opportunity to train with Harlequins to further their development whilst in the English capital.
Whilst at London Scottish, Max and Jamie will have the opportunity to train with Harlequins to further their development whilst in the English capital.
John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
Would he get into the team? We have a number of good 9s.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
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Agree, his boat has sailed some time ago.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:28 amWould he get into the team? We have a number of good 9s.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:32 amAgree, his boat has sailed some time ago.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:28 amWould he get into the team? We have a number of good 9s.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
I'm not so sure, I think he's still a quality player who is all about pace. He'd actually fit in well with Edinburgh. Scotland could pair him and Kinghorn for the Tonga and Romania as Cooney is a good goal kicker (I still think Kinghorn will become a good goal kicker if he gets the chance to develop that part of his game, but anyway...)
Definitely the squad. He would be at worst the 3rd scrum half in the squad.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:28 amWould he get into the team? We have a number of good 9s.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
Embra v Munster
Schoey, Harrison, de Bruin, Hodgson, Gilchrist, Ritchie, Crosbie, Mata
Vellacott, Kinghorn, vd Merwe, Dean, Bennett, Graham, Goosen
Cruse, Venter, Nel, Sykes, Haining, Shiel, vd Walt, Lang
Munster: Shane Daly; Calvin Nash, Antoine Frisch, Rory Scannell, Simon Zebo; Joey Carbery, Craig Casey; Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne; Peter O’Mahony (C), John Hodnett, Gavin Coombes.
Diarmuid Barron, Josh Wycherley, Roman Salanoa, Jack O’Donoghue, Alex Kendellen, Paddy Patterson, Jack Crowley, Patrick Campbell.
Schoey, Harrison, de Bruin, Hodgson, Gilchrist, Ritchie, Crosbie, Mata
Vellacott, Kinghorn, vd Merwe, Dean, Bennett, Graham, Goosen
Cruse, Venter, Nel, Sykes, Haining, Shiel, vd Walt, Lang
Munster: Shane Daly; Calvin Nash, Antoine Frisch, Rory Scannell, Simon Zebo; Joey Carbery, Craig Casey; Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne; Peter O’Mahony (C), John Hodnett, Gavin Coombes.
Diarmuid Barron, Josh Wycherley, Roman Salanoa, Jack O’Donoghue, Alex Kendellen, Paddy Patterson, Jack Crowley, Patrick Campbell.
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I could just about stomach Jack Dempsey but not sure I could with this one.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
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Slick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:07 pmI could just about stomach Jack Dempsey but not sure I could with this one.westport wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:30 pm John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63811086
Don't think the players would either.
Part of me thinks, "No way, not ever" I was the same with Dempsey, and that part of me still would rather see Bradbury in that shirt.
However another part of me thinks, "is he better right now than White, Horne, Dobie, Vellacott, Shiel, Pyrgos? "
I think the answer is probably yes.
Price? probably. I think he's better than Gibson-Park and Murray too.
However another part of me thinks, "is he better right now than White, Horne, Dobie, Vellacott, Shiel, Pyrgos? "
I think the answer is probably yes.
Price? probably. I think he's better than Gibson-Park and Murray too.
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I agree and said the same about Dempsey. I think for a fan it's different as Cusiter says here as he differentiates between fan and player. And so I think Cus believes it does somewhat demean the jersey and that's what I believe too. But if he scores the winning points yeah great.