FOSTER - NOW GONE 🎉 - congrats kiwis
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Guy Smiley
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Razor is on record as saying he's a head coach only. He won't take an assistant role.
I think it's a long shot but worth a small bet he ends up replacing Eddie Jones at England. Italy is another wild card...
if he's got any sense he'll bail from NZ and wait until this shit show of a Board and CEO are gone.
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Guy Smiley
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Warning shot fired
A much-bolder Scott Robertson has made his All Blacks intentions well and truly clear, saying he's "here" and "ready" to take over coaching New Zealand.
Scott Robertson
Robertson was beaten by Ian Foster for the job after Sir Steve Hansen stepped away at the conclusion of the 2019 Rugby World Cup and has since bided his time with the Crusaders.
After a rocky start to the 2022 season - which included an historic series loss on home soil to Ireland and a first-ever loss in New Zealand to Argentina - Foster survived a New Zealand Rugby review to see his contract extended to the end of next year's World Cup.
Robertson told SENZ this morning that's when NZR will have to make their call on his immediate future in New Zealand.
"I’ve spent the last 15 years coaching to get ready to be the head coach for the All Blacks - that’s really clear," Robertson said.
"Now the decision’s for them [NZR]. They know that I’m here, they know that I’d love to do the job and I’m ready."
Robertson - who has coached the Crusaders to six Super Rugby titles with an 84% win rate after taking over in 2017 - has made no secret of his dream to coach the All Blacks since losing out to Foster but has remained coy about how long he would be happy to wait.
After this morning, the former All Black seems to have made that clear too.
"The decision’s [up to NZR], I’ll wait through the process [next year] but I want to coach international footy," he said.
Robertson has reportedly been looked at as a possible coach of England or the Wallabies if he leaves New Zealand after he said earlier this year he wanted to win the World Cup with two different nations.
"So [over] the next few months there’s a few decisions for a lot of people," he added.
Well in that case it seems like a pointless ultimatum to me. If he can't wait a year, he should just take the money and go imho.
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He's just saying that he expects to get the job after the WC or he's fucking off somewhere ells.
I suspect the other offers are for him to start after the RWC, and ready for signing now.
But NZR possibly aren’t offering him even that.
NZR have probably told Foster that if the All Blacks get out of their group and qualify for the knockout stages, he’ll be reappointed until the following World Cup.Ymx wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:43 amI suspect the other offers are for him to start after the RWC, and ready for signing now.
But NZR possibly aren’t offering him even that.
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Guy Smiley
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I think it’s pretty basic to be honest. Razor is giving an ultimatum…
the wild card s whatever May have been said to him when speculation reached fever pitch while the ABs were in South Africa and NZR sprayed whitewash all over themselves.
the wild card s whatever May have been said to him when speculation reached fever pitch while the ABs were in South Africa and NZR sprayed whitewash all over themselves.
I don't see why they can't offer Razor the job now? As in.. you're the boss in 2024 regardless of world cup outcomes...Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:29 amNZR have probably told Foster that if the All Blacks get out of their group and qualify for the knockout stages, he’ll be reappointed until the following World Cup.
Foster even if he wins the world cup should not be allowed to continue. You can't undo the damage he has done even if he wins the next three world cups...
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There is a high chance of the Scotland HC position being open post-WC. If England is available he'd take that, but Scotland is a better (and higher paid) role than Italy.Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:40 amRazor is on record as saying he's a head coach only. He won't take an assistant role.
I think it's a long shot but worth a small bet he ends up replacing Eddie Jones at England. Italy is another wild card...
if he's got any sense he'll bail from NZ and wait until this shit show of a Board and CEO are gone.
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premium article from today's NZ Herald:
After the All Blacks lost to South Africa in Mbombela, it forced New Zealand Rugby to make a big decision. Gregor Paul details how events played out and why NZR chose to stay with Ian Foster.
When Handre Pollard converted a last-minute try to push the score out to 26-10, the 43,000 South Africans at Mbombela Stadium on August 7 knew they had witnessed the Springboks inflict one of the most comprehensive defeats the All Blacks had suffered.
Yet, head coach Ian Foster said: “I felt it was probably our most improved performance this year. I felt in some areas we really shifted our game forward.”
This desire to spin a positive narrative was understandable, as the All Blacks head coach was fighting to save his job.
Before he’d left for South Africa, he’d met with New Zealand Rugby chief executive Mark Robinson and head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum.
The meeting, at Foster’s house, was tense, as the head coach initially resisted the request to axe assistants John Plumtree and Brad Mooar.
Foster was also told by his employer they expected the All Blacks to win at least one test in South Africa, and he felt he was being put under pressure to resign if both were lost.
By August 8, the specifics of the meeting at Foster’s house were rendered moot, as Crusaders head coach Scott Robertson was sounded out by NZR, to present a plan of who he would want in his wider team should the head coaching job become available.
The conversation with Robertson was sanctioned by NZR on “in principle” basis.
Robertson, known universally as Razor, was not being offered the job, he was not being interviewed, but he was being asked to present his ‘in theory’ coaching team and listed Leon MacDonald (Blues head coach), Jason Ryan (All Blacks forwards coach), Jason Holland (Hurricanes head coach) and Scott Hansen (Crusaders assistant coach) as his preferred line-up.
If Robinson was going to recommend to the NZR board that change should be made, there needed to be an understanding of what the alternative to Foster and his team would be, as the All Blacks would be assembling to play the Pumas just six days after they returned from South Africa.
Robertson’s ‘in principle’ team was deemed to lack heavyweight international experience — a problem NZR felt could be fixed if Robertson could find room for Joe Schmidt, the former Ireland head coach who Foster had only just enticed, after two years of persuasion, to join the All Blacks as a selector.
Schmidt, who had not travelled to South Africa, was encouraged by NZR to meet Robertson to determine whether they could work together.
Whether they were aware of what was playing out, or reacting to media speculation, the Crusaders, Blues and Hurricanes were by August 10 preparing to lose their head coaches.
Emergency board meetings were called, action plans scrambled, and it is understood that the Blues got so far as to put together a shortlist, which included former Wallabies coach Robbie Deans.
When Robinson changed his original plan to leave the Republic before the second match at Ellis Park, expectation heightened that he was staying to host a media conference on the Sunday morning to announce a change of head coach.
Foster cut a forlorn figure in Johannesburg that week — constantly seen pacing the corridor of the team hotel, his ear glued to his phone, his world seemingly about to be tipped upside down and the tide running against him after the Herald on August 8 had published a front-page editorial calling for change.
But three things, one in particular, would change the course of history and see Foster retained.
The first and most important development was that Schmidt ruled out working with Robertson after the two had met.
Schmidt, it is believed, explained that he felt a loyalty to Foster and discomfort at being asked to meet with another potential head coach.
The process had challenged his integrity, but having fulfilled his employer’s request and in declaring his allegiance to Foster as his reason for not wanting to jump ship, he came out with a clear conscience.
Schmidt’s loyalty tipped the balance in favour of the incumbent, as a Foster, Ryan, Schmidt combination had more experience than a Robertson, Ryan, MacDonald combination.
If Schmidt had indicated a willingness to join Team Razor, it is probable that Robinson would have recommended to the NZR board that the All Blacks part company with Foster.
Schmidt’s value is not his head coaching experience per se, but that he operated in the Northern Hemisphere for 14 years – with Clermont, Leinster and then Ireland — so has a unique insight into the Six Nations.
And given the threat these European nations pose to the All Blacks World Cup ambitions, Schmidt became the inadvertent king-maker in the decision-making process.
The other two factors that kept Foster in his job were the result at Ellis Park and the actions after the game of senior players.
The All Blacks won 35-23 at the spiritual home of the Springboks.
Still, after being asked by Sky analyst Jeff Wilson just minutes after the game whether he knew if he would be the coach of the team for the next test, Foster replied: “I’ve got no idea. I’m just going to enjoy tonight.”
Later that night, it is understood Sam Whitelock led a handful of players — which is believed to have included Sam Cane, Aaron Smith and Ardie Savea among others - to Robinson’s room at the team hotel and laid out the case why they believed Foster, Ryan and Schmidt were their preferred coaching team.
At 11am New Zealand time on August 14 (1am SA time) an email was sent by NZR’s chief communications and brand officer Charlotte McLauchlan, inviting media to a zoom call with Robinson at 5.30pm NZT (7.30am SAT).
It is unclear why this conference was scheduled as Robinson famously had nothing to say and refused to provide any clarity about Foster’s future, other than to say: “There will be a board meeting at some stage.”
That board meeting took place after Robinson and Lendrum again met with Foster, in New Zealand on August 16.
Foster presented a plan to promote Schmidt to attack coach, at which point, the case to appoint Robertson collapsed.
The cost of axing Foster’s team — including the estimated $1m already paid out to Plumtree and Mooar — would have climbed by another $2m-$3m depending on negotiations; Super Rugby would have been decimated by the loss of three head coaches and all to parachute in a less experienced coaching team with just days before a test.
Robinson, it is believed, only made one recommendation to the board — to retain Foster until the end of his contract in 2023 and endorse the promotion of Schmidt.
On August 17, chairman Stewart Mitchell, Robinson and Foster fronted a press conference, at which the former said: “Yesterday, Mark and Chris Lendrum met with Ian to finalise conversations around where things sat after the first five tests of the year.
“Ian has provided management with his own recommendations, and these have in turn been recommended to the board who have unanimously agreed they have absolute confidence that Ian and this coaching group are the right people to lead the All Blacks through to the World Cup.”
After the All Blacks lost to South Africa in Mbombela, it forced New Zealand Rugby to make a big decision. Gregor Paul details how events played out and why NZR chose to stay with Ian Foster.
When Handre Pollard converted a last-minute try to push the score out to 26-10, the 43,000 South Africans at Mbombela Stadium on August 7 knew they had witnessed the Springboks inflict one of the most comprehensive defeats the All Blacks had suffered.
Yet, head coach Ian Foster said: “I felt it was probably our most improved performance this year. I felt in some areas we really shifted our game forward.”
This desire to spin a positive narrative was understandable, as the All Blacks head coach was fighting to save his job.
Before he’d left for South Africa, he’d met with New Zealand Rugby chief executive Mark Robinson and head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum.
The meeting, at Foster’s house, was tense, as the head coach initially resisted the request to axe assistants John Plumtree and Brad Mooar.
Foster was also told by his employer they expected the All Blacks to win at least one test in South Africa, and he felt he was being put under pressure to resign if both were lost.
By August 8, the specifics of the meeting at Foster’s house were rendered moot, as Crusaders head coach Scott Robertson was sounded out by NZR, to present a plan of who he would want in his wider team should the head coaching job become available.
The conversation with Robertson was sanctioned by NZR on “in principle” basis.
Robertson, known universally as Razor, was not being offered the job, he was not being interviewed, but he was being asked to present his ‘in theory’ coaching team and listed Leon MacDonald (Blues head coach), Jason Ryan (All Blacks forwards coach), Jason Holland (Hurricanes head coach) and Scott Hansen (Crusaders assistant coach) as his preferred line-up.
If Robinson was going to recommend to the NZR board that change should be made, there needed to be an understanding of what the alternative to Foster and his team would be, as the All Blacks would be assembling to play the Pumas just six days after they returned from South Africa.
Robertson’s ‘in principle’ team was deemed to lack heavyweight international experience — a problem NZR felt could be fixed if Robertson could find room for Joe Schmidt, the former Ireland head coach who Foster had only just enticed, after two years of persuasion, to join the All Blacks as a selector.
Schmidt, who had not travelled to South Africa, was encouraged by NZR to meet Robertson to determine whether they could work together.
Whether they were aware of what was playing out, or reacting to media speculation, the Crusaders, Blues and Hurricanes were by August 10 preparing to lose their head coaches.
Emergency board meetings were called, action plans scrambled, and it is understood that the Blues got so far as to put together a shortlist, which included former Wallabies coach Robbie Deans.
When Robinson changed his original plan to leave the Republic before the second match at Ellis Park, expectation heightened that he was staying to host a media conference on the Sunday morning to announce a change of head coach.
Foster cut a forlorn figure in Johannesburg that week — constantly seen pacing the corridor of the team hotel, his ear glued to his phone, his world seemingly about to be tipped upside down and the tide running against him after the Herald on August 8 had published a front-page editorial calling for change.
But three things, one in particular, would change the course of history and see Foster retained.
The first and most important development was that Schmidt ruled out working with Robertson after the two had met.
Schmidt, it is believed, explained that he felt a loyalty to Foster and discomfort at being asked to meet with another potential head coach.
The process had challenged his integrity, but having fulfilled his employer’s request and in declaring his allegiance to Foster as his reason for not wanting to jump ship, he came out with a clear conscience.
Schmidt’s loyalty tipped the balance in favour of the incumbent, as a Foster, Ryan, Schmidt combination had more experience than a Robertson, Ryan, MacDonald combination.
If Schmidt had indicated a willingness to join Team Razor, it is probable that Robinson would have recommended to the NZR board that the All Blacks part company with Foster.
Schmidt’s value is not his head coaching experience per se, but that he operated in the Northern Hemisphere for 14 years – with Clermont, Leinster and then Ireland — so has a unique insight into the Six Nations.
And given the threat these European nations pose to the All Blacks World Cup ambitions, Schmidt became the inadvertent king-maker in the decision-making process.
The other two factors that kept Foster in his job were the result at Ellis Park and the actions after the game of senior players.
The All Blacks won 35-23 at the spiritual home of the Springboks.
Still, after being asked by Sky analyst Jeff Wilson just minutes after the game whether he knew if he would be the coach of the team for the next test, Foster replied: “I’ve got no idea. I’m just going to enjoy tonight.”
Later that night, it is understood Sam Whitelock led a handful of players — which is believed to have included Sam Cane, Aaron Smith and Ardie Savea among others - to Robinson’s room at the team hotel and laid out the case why they believed Foster, Ryan and Schmidt were their preferred coaching team.
At 11am New Zealand time on August 14 (1am SA time) an email was sent by NZR’s chief communications and brand officer Charlotte McLauchlan, inviting media to a zoom call with Robinson at 5.30pm NZT (7.30am SAT).
It is unclear why this conference was scheduled as Robinson famously had nothing to say and refused to provide any clarity about Foster’s future, other than to say: “There will be a board meeting at some stage.”
That board meeting took place after Robinson and Lendrum again met with Foster, in New Zealand on August 16.
Foster presented a plan to promote Schmidt to attack coach, at which point, the case to appoint Robertson collapsed.
The cost of axing Foster’s team — including the estimated $1m already paid out to Plumtree and Mooar — would have climbed by another $2m-$3m depending on negotiations; Super Rugby would have been decimated by the loss of three head coaches and all to parachute in a less experienced coaching team with just days before a test.
Robinson, it is believed, only made one recommendation to the board — to retain Foster until the end of his contract in 2023 and endorse the promotion of Schmidt.
On August 17, chairman Stewart Mitchell, Robinson and Foster fronted a press conference, at which the former said: “Yesterday, Mark and Chris Lendrum met with Ian to finalise conversations around where things sat after the first five tests of the year.
“Ian has provided management with his own recommendations, and these have in turn been recommended to the board who have unanimously agreed they have absolute confidence that Ian and this coaching group are the right people to lead the All Blacks through to the World Cup.”
@convoluted
Cheers for posting that.
Shitty situation for NZR to put Schmidt in. Very poor form, but seemingly par for the course with this rabble. I hope he meant he couldn't work with Razor "in the current circumstances", rather than "ever".
Cheers for posting that.
Shitty situation for NZR to put Schmidt in. Very poor form, but seemingly par for the course with this rabble. I hope he meant he couldn't work with Razor "in the current circumstances", rather than "ever".
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Yep !
Schmidt is an honorable, stand up bloke; & asking him to shank someone he wants to succeed, is bullshit, & a total abrogation of responsibility by the board who appointed Foster in the first place !
I think he told them he'd work for whoever was appointed, as long as that person wanted his contrbutions, because he wanted what was best for NZ Rugby.
Diabolical. It's like NZ Rugby judge everything on experience.. rather than ability...
So basically Shmidt said he didn't want to work with Razor for whatever reason (seems some guessing there as to why, as did Tony Brown a couple of years before), I know he has been good friends of Foster for a few years, (and also Steve Hansen, who says NZR approached Schmidt before appointing Foster), but I guess we have to assume the NZ Herald article is accurate (would make a change). Anyway it's all what it is, and I see the article as maybe a bit of muckraking etc and can't see how it changes anything.
According to the NZ Herald...
Will Jordan, one option to assume fullback duties, will take no part in this tour due to a persisting vestibular issue.
I heard Foster trying to justify the year by saying everyone who has beaten us we have also beaten. Just before this game.
To think, that’s how he thinks. “How can I justify and find an angle to make it not sound as bad as it is”
So naturally we'll keep Fozzie, while Robertson will go on to make the Wallabies unbeatable, another win for the NZR as they swill their G&Ts and rearrange the deck chairs.Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:38 am Warning shot fired
A much-bolder Scott Robertson has made his All Blacks intentions well and truly clear, saying he's "here" and "ready" to take over coaching New Zealand.
Scott Robertson
Robertson was beaten by Ian Foster for the job after Sir Steve Hansen stepped away at the conclusion of the 2019 Rugby World Cup and has since bided his time with the Crusaders.
After a rocky start to the 2022 season - which included an historic series loss on home soil to Ireland and a first-ever loss in New Zealand to Argentina - Foster survived a New Zealand Rugby review to see his contract extended to the end of next year's World Cup.
Robertson told SENZ this morning that's when NZR will have to make their call on his immediate future in New Zealand.
"I’ve spent the last 15 years coaching to get ready to be the head coach for the All Blacks - that’s really clear," Robertson said.
"Now the decision’s for them [NZR]. They know that I’m here, they know that I’d love to do the job and I’m ready."
Robertson - who has coached the Crusaders to six Super Rugby titles with an 84% win rate after taking over in 2017 - has made no secret of his dream to coach the All Blacks since losing out to Foster but has remained coy about how long he would be happy to wait.
After this morning, the former All Black seems to have made that clear too.
"The decision’s [up to NZR], I’ll wait through the process [next year] but I want to coach international footy," he said.
Robertson has reportedly been looked at as a possible coach of England or the Wallabies if he leaves New Zealand after he said earlier this year he wanted to win the World Cup with two different nations.
"So [over] the next few months there’s a few decisions for a lot of people," he added.
This era reminds me of the Lemon-Face Mains reign in more ways than just the stats. The late emergence of Lomu, Kronfeld, Mehrtens and Suzie largely redeemed his reputation (far more than he deserved, imho), but until then it was just as much of a confused, miserable mess as it is now.At the end of a turbulent 2022 season, Ian Foster’s overall win percentage sits at 68% – the worst of any All Blacks coach in the professional era.
After dropping to 64% following the loss to the Springboks in August, it had risen to 70% after the victory over Scotland last weekend.
His record of 23 wins from 34 tests is now identical to that of Laurie Mains (1992-1995), Foster having two draws and nine losses to Mains’ one draw and 10 losses.
From Audiology 101 pathologies, it would appear that Jordan might have a balance/movement issue then. Assumed he's been off to see an ENT?
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Monkey Magic
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Is that the sort of thing Read and Ben Smith had? They thought it must have been concussion but were relieved to find it was something completely different. Read has spoken about how hard it was for him to even get through the recovery of that but was just a massive relief it wasn't a major head issue
Sounds like it might be Labyrinthitis or vestibular neuritis, which are both ear infections which can cause balance problems and feelings of disorientation. The effects can last for a few weeks (usually between 2 and 6 weeks but sometimes longer). They usually clear up on their own without long term effects.Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:32 amIs that the sort of thing Read and Ben Smith had? They thought it must have been concussion but were relieved to find it was something completely different. Read has spoken about how hard it was for him to even get through the recovery of that but was just a massive relief it wasn't a major head issue
No idea mate ...Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:32 amIs that the sort of thing Read and Ben Smith had? They thought it must have been concussion but were relieved to find it was something completely different. Read has spoken about how hard it was for him to even get through the recovery of that but was just a massive relief it wasn't a major head issue
Can be multiple causes, fingers crossed it isn't inner ear as that can get dicey. Either infection, slight dislocation of middle ear bones, or something post cochlear. Fingers crossed it responds to some drugs and doesn't need further intervention.
And I thought the pain would end after RWC23.
He’s been approached. No doubt the English RFU will be working on buying out Razors contract for a pretty penny. NZRU being the self selling whores they are, will take the cash.
He’s been approached. No doubt the English RFU will be working on buying out Razors contract for a pretty penny. NZRU being the self selling whores they are, will take the cash.
Scott Robertson: Crusaders head coach ‘exactly the person England need’
Former England full-back Mike Brown believes that Scott Robertson has the qualities to release the Red Rose from their shackles and usher in a bright new era for the country.
The 48-year-old, known as ‘Razor’, is currently contracted to the Crusaders and New Zealand Rugby until the end of 2024, but he has a clause which will enable him to leave before then.
Should Robertson not be offered the All Blacks role after the conclusion of the 2023 Rugby World Cup, he will be able to immediately take another international job.
England officials have reportedly met with the former back-row to discuss potentially replacing Eddie Jones, who will leave his post following the global tournament next year.
Brown recently worked under Robertson while playing for the Barbarians and was impressed with what he saw.
Exceeded expectations
“For me to do the Barbarians it was a big draw that Razor was involved. Obviously watching the Crusaders from over here, (I) was a big fan of his and what he’s doing there so wanted to see it up close and it exceeded my expectations to be honest,” the ex-Red Rose full-back told SENZ Breakfast.
“In terms of England, (he) would be exactly the person that they kind of need I think to kind of lift that environment and get them out of playing with a bit of fear.
“In terms of him, the way he’s just such a good people person, I’ve not really experienced to that level before with any coaches that I’ve had.
“The way he connects with people, the way he understands personalities, the way he just makes you feel so comfortable like you’ve known him for years, I just loved every minute of it.”
England’s style of play under Jones has been heavily criticised recently and Brown believes that Robertson will free up the players.
“I honestly feel like he’s the sort of people they kind of need to make the step up. I just feel like they’re playing within themselves,” he said.
“People like Marcus Smith, they’re playing one way for their club and then you see that mentality shift when they’re playing.
Playing with fear
“The example on the weekend when he’s kicking the ball out to take the draw, if he’s in a Quins shirt… they’d never kick the ball out ever.
“So why he’s doing that in an England jersey, for me, just points to the environment and maybe they’re playing within themselves, a bit of fear.
“They haven’t played their best rugby until 10 minutes of that New Zealand game and they suddenly had to push the envelope and do some stuff.
“Just speaking to him, he seems to have a great awareness of himself and what sort of people he would need around him to fill in the gaps that maybe he’s not so good at.”
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It’s pretty hopeless.
Either we win the RWC and we are stuck with Foster (hardly likely)
Or Foster is sacked post RWC review and Robertson and others are already committed elsewhere, so we are forced to appoint a random.
Either way, Robertson is not going to be our next head coach.
Either we win the RWC and we are stuck with Foster (hardly likely)
Or Foster is sacked post RWC review and Robertson and others are already committed elsewhere, so we are forced to appoint a random.
Either way, Robertson is not going to be our next head coach.
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I've been in the same boat for most of this year, as nearly everything Reason has written on the subject of Foster and the NZR board, their CEO's handling of him and the associated mess has resonated strongly for me.
I agree with him.
It's worth remembering though, that he is just another opinion writer and on this he just happens to be aligned with roughly every fucking rugby fan in NZ with a few weird exceptions. It doesn't make what he's saying right, even if every fucking rugby fan in NZ along with most overseas followers of the game can see it.
Perhaps Reason's 'other' sort of background and apparent feeling of not belonging (he has seemed bitterly unreconciled in the past) has him seeing the rude truth and not the emperor's clothes, as most of the fawning rugby media here do. Whatever the .... oh dear, reason is, I'm more than happy to have someone in the media speaking out so strongly in the face of inept cronyism that is rampant at HQ here.
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Any deals that need to be done should be underway or signed by now... the result of the RWC shouldn't actually play a part. NZR will likely wait though, that's how they roll.Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:19 pm It’s pretty hopeless.
Either we win the RWC and we are stuck with Foster (hardly likely)
Or Foster is sacked post RWC review and Robertson and others are already committed elsewhere, so we are forced to appoint a random.
Either way, Robertson is not going to be our next head coach.
I hope Razor does go OS to be honest, he'd be badly compromised working under this board. NZ rugby seem committed to their limited philosophy of needing OS coaching experience (conveniently overlooked for Foster) so it's likely they'll piss off and miss out on some promising local candidates like McMillan and MacDonald in the process.
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Monkey Magic
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Last time their process pretty much guaranteed any other good candidates had been signed, can't see them not making that mistake again
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Guy Smiley
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England have sacked Eddie Jones and commenced negotiations with Borthwick's club over his contract, so it's safe to assume they'll install him as Jones' successor.
Two things...
i) the English board have shown more balls than the NZR old boys' club did, in reviewing Eddie's season and the trend. He is numerically the most successful coach England have had but they've booted him with less than a year to go on his contract. No. Fucking. Around.
ii) the list of candidates to secure Razor's services has narrowed significantly. Australia loom large. Just sit back and imagine that. Taste it.
Two things...
i) the English board have shown more balls than the NZR old boys' club did, in reviewing Eddie's season and the trend. He is numerically the most successful coach England have had but they've booted him with less than a year to go on his contract. No. Fucking. Around.
ii) the list of candidates to secure Razor's services has narrowed significantly. Australia loom large. Just sit back and imagine that. Taste it.