The best new and returning TV series thread

[sockwithaticket]

Yeah, agree with all that.

I'd also add buying loads of random foreign language shite to pad out the raw number of things on offer to their catalogue woes. Even if it was all top quality (it's not), most of it is going to sit there because even people like me who do watch quite a bit of subtitled stuff aren't always in the mood to read our visual entertainment.

Away from the actual product, shooting themselves in the foot by tying video quality to subscription price, trying to shut down password sharing (which they once advertised as a feature) and threatening to bring in ads for the lower tier subscriptions seems more like a company deliberately trying

I've gone back to the high seas for a lot of content because I can't be arsed jumping around the ever growing number of subscription services, trying to maximise a month or two of paying for them.

That's primarily in their catalogue for the customers in those markets who similarly don't always want to watch US/British stuff with subtitles. I watch a fair bit of Turkish language stuff on Netflix and some of it really is excellent. There is one limited series called Ethos (Bir Baskadir) which was massively critically acclaimed in Turkey - people say it is probably the best TV show ever made in the country.

There's regional variation in the catalogues. I don't mind getting some top notch foreign language stuff, but, much like the English language, there's a lot of nothing filler in there.

[tabascoboy]

Apparently The Last of Us is already renewed for a second season

I mostly enjoyed the first two episodes, but not sure if I'll keep watching tbh. There were a couple of times during the second episode when I thought it just got a bit silly and illogical. Nothing like a major plot hole, but enough to distract me from all the serious imminent danger stuff going on.

I wouldn't say that the logic is always watertight (particularly when it comes to how some supply and usability of certain resources have lasted 20 years), but the story begins to have a tighter focus on relationships from now on so I'd recommend giving it one more episode before deciding. Did find the prologue section on the last episode not that great but they clearly like to start each one with a background story, and next episode - game/tv spoiler

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it looks like we get an insight into the Bill and Frank backstory

that was strongly hinted at, don't know how that'll go, whether it'll be interesting or not, but I'm sure going to miss W. Earl Brown...

[sockwithaticket]

Apparently The Last of Us is already renewed for a second season

I mostly enjoyed the first two episodes, but not sure if I'll keep watching tbh. There were a couple of times during the second episode when I thought it just got a bit silly and illogical. Nothing like a major plot hole, but enough to distract me from all the serious imminent danger stuff going on.

I've found the girl to be highly irritating so far. After struggling through White Lotus I'm done with characters that aggravate me for a while.

[Ymx]

I mostly enjoyed the first two episodes, but not sure if I'll keep watching tbh. There were a couple of times during the second episode when I thought it just got a bit silly and illogical. Nothing like a major plot hole, but enough to distract me from all the serious imminent danger stuff going on.

I've found the girl to be highly irritating so far. After struggling through White Lotus I'm done with characters that aggravate me for a while.

Stiflers mum in the white lotus??

[tabascoboy]

I mostly enjoyed the first two episodes, but not sure if I'll keep watching tbh. There were a couple of times during the second episode when I thought it just got a bit silly and illogical. Nothing like a major plot hole, but enough to distract me from all the serious imminent danger stuff going on.

I've found the girl to be highly irritating so far. After struggling through White Lotus I'm done with characters that aggravate me for a while.

Well, as per the game how the viewer/player feels is same as how Joel feels, that's part of the story...

[Ymx]

This is the stuff of nightmares

[sockwithaticket]

I mostly enjoyed the first two episodes, but not sure if I'll keep watching tbh. There were a couple of times during the second episode when I thought it just got a bit silly and illogical. Nothing like a major plot hole, but enough to distract me from all the serious imminent danger stuff going on.

I've found the girl to be highly irritating so far. After struggling through White Lotus I'm done with characters that aggravate me for a while.

Stiflers mum in the white lotus??

She was the worst and the whole awards buzz around her is baffling, but there were very few characters I was particularly happy to see on screen.

[tabascoboy]

45 I wonder if illness meant she couldn't be considered as Tess for the TV show

[Sandstorm]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's not politically correct to wish a child that is "Mankind's likely saviour" gets eaten by Clickers in episode 3, however......

[tabascoboy]

Well episode 3 wasn't very 'The Walking Dead'

[Sandstorm]

Well episode 3 wasn't very 'The Walking Dead'

Best 90 minutes of TV I’ve seen in ages.



Girl is still fucking annoying….

[Sandstorm]

Yeah it was very good. Thought it was a bit ghey once or twice but it very good

Some straight people also pair rabbit with a Beaujolais

[Gumboot]

Yeah it was very good. Thought it was a bit ghey once or twice but it very good

Some straight people also pair rabbit with a Beaujolais

Hmmm maybe but the lumberjack shirts were too on the nose

Episode 3 was good, although Bill & Frank felt like a completely different storyline that was actually worth expanding, rather than being just the plot device for delivering the car key to Joel it turned out to be. And for those complaining about the girl being annoying - isn't that the point? Anyway, I'm out.

[tabascoboy]

Not sure as haven't played the game but the precocious teenager is pretty boring and I suspect extra annoying for me currently as my kids are stuck into Jessie on Disney.
I liked the episode and way it was a little vignette of one groups life afterwards. It wasn't startling or anything like that and the 'best individual programme in ever' claims are stupid. GoT for example would sometimes leave you 'HOLY FUCK' for days.

I thought the episode was overlong, didn't need to be that drawn out to get the point across. Good, but "award winning"? Far too early to claim that even for 2023, never mind "ever", but excellent acting and direction? Yes.

[tabascoboy]

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A prepper humanised by Hollywood by making him a hairy big gay bear. There won't be enough awards around to be handed to it

It's provoking an epidemic of review bombing though! Doubt that staunch NRA types from West Virginia etc would be impressed...

In the game, although I love that part of it, there is about 90% of time fighting or sneaking past packs of infected, ehich would add nothing so far as TV adaptation is concerned that we haven't seen before

[Jock42]

I started to get a bit bored with ep3 at one point (more because i wasnt really seeing the point of it) but thought it was excellent by the end.

[tabascoboy]

Some of the reviews are good craic and I agree on it being a bit overlong alright but presume it's a device as in pausing before it all kicks off

It's the central message that has been there from episode 1 in the Fireflies slogan: "When you're lost in the darkness, look for the light".

For Bill we saw

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He was all prepped and ready for the post apocalypse, "Yeah, I'm great here - got everything I need, as for everyone else out there - fuck 'em!" After 4 years alone it didn't seem so idyllic. It was a good subtle way to suggest "everybody needs somebody" and a bit of a turning point for Joel as well that gives him pause to think about what he's doing.

In the game (you can read this if you have no intention of playing it)

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it's mainly "Joel needs a car". We never see Frank except as a body (hanged himself after being bitten) after running away from Bill with whom he'd apparently had a falling out. Bill chokes back a bit of remorse but we can see there was more to the relationship than just fellowship. Ellie found a homosexual porno mag amongst Bill's stuff so the show didn't make this up. They fight their way through until they get to the Chevvy as we saw in the show, Bill is still with them and his last words to Joel are "Get the fuck outta my town!" So Bill remains as survivalist loner.

I do commend them for re-imagining this part of the game even if I do miss certain things from it.

[weegie01]

I started to get a bit bored with ep3 at one point (more because i wasnt really seeing the point of it) but thought it was excellent by the end.

It just seemed like a tangent to me. They could have covered the rationale for there being this comparative oasis with all the supplies much more briefly and still moved the story on by the same amount.

[Gumboot]

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A prepper humanised by Hollywood by making him a hairy big gay bear. There won't be enough awards around to be handed to it

This.

[mat the expat]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's miles better than TWD - no "CORAL" moments

[Jock42]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

[tabascoboy]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

[Jock42]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

Ffs, it's not a Bridge Too Far

[Blackmac]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

[Uncle fester]

Extraordinary
Pretty funny. The soundtrack dentist is a hoot.

[-RB-]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's miles better than TWD - no "CORAL" moments

Coooorrrrrllll get in the cooooorrrrrr

[-RB-]

Anyone watched Pistol?

I'm yet to find another person that's watched it. Thought it was ace if a little too Steve Jonesy.

The Sex store, Vivienne Westwood and Jordan stuff was brilliant and McClaren and Lidon were very well acted.

[Niegs]

As someone in the comments said, I don't pay attention to Trek or Wars any more, but live for quality parodies like this...

[Jock42]

Watched the first 2 episodes of "The Gold" about the 1983 inadvertent gold robbery. Had no idea of it but really enjoying it.

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

[Blackmac]

Apparently it's no good because it has car models in it that weren't made until 2 years later

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

[Jock42]

It's no good because it is making out that the Brinks Mat robbers and their associates were a bunch of loveable cockney barrow boys when in fact they were a bunch of violent, thieving murderous cunts.

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

What was the script with the "missing" £13m? A quick Google didn't reveal anything. Was that just done for the drama?

[Ymx]

The Last of Us is a basically a fancy looking Walking Dead. It looks swit swoo but it's emperors new clothes as it stands. The main issue also for me, and I haven't played the game so it may be faithful, is the young one is a pain in the hole.

It's miles better than TWD - no "CORAL" moments

Ah yeah it's not bad. At a totally different speed Shrinking is quiet good for a watch with the missus. Harrison Ford and Jason Segel are the big names but all the cast bring a lightness to what is a programme about grief, anxiety and the madness of it all. It has a big huge tunnel of humour running through it. Look its not perfect and some of the jokes are a bit meh but definitely a B+ for me. Ford is great though really. He has such massive presence and when you think about it has been criminally underused over the years

I’m watching it, but it’s more of a C, with the OTT woke.

[Blackmac]

I can see why you'd think that if you've only watched the first episode or 2. Make them out to be complete cunts in the end.

I would have preferred it of they told you how long they served and what they subsequently did. It would have saved us googling.

I had watched it all at that stage and it really doesn't. It makes out that Knoye was just a happy go lucky, cheeky chap who fell into the situation when in fact he was a hardened criminal with a reputation for being a high value fence. Similarly is makes MacAvoy out to be some sort of noble bandit, when in reality he was a violent thug with a horrendous reputation for extreme violence during his armed robberies. It fails to portray the violent and terrifying nature of the robbery. Rather than an afterthought, pouring petrol over their victims was their first action and an MO they had used before. The worst bit was they completely glossed over the brutality of the murder of John Fordham, and failed to acknowledge the ridiculous nature of the verdict from a jury that was obviously got at.
It did nothing at all to change the false narrative that a lot of people have about the situation. Nearly everyone involved in one way or the other has died a violent death and there are at least two other deaths associated with Knoye.
The only thing I felt was well done was the depiction of the police investigation which I felt was sympathetic to the quality of the officers involved and the hurdles they had to overcome. It's rare for any drama nowadays to portray the police as anything other than corrupt and incompetent, which these lads certainly weren't.

What was the script with the "missing" £13m? A quick Google didn't reveal anything. Was that just done for the drama?

Possibly poetic licence. I had never really heard of it before. I would imagine John Palmer might have been able shed more light on that because he certainly had a hell of a lot of money kicking about when he set up his Timeshare scam.

[yermum]

Enjoyed Counterpart.

Its a wierd cold war spy/scifi crossover.

it is two series and ends with a decent conclusion worth a watch if you like something inbetween slow horses and dark.

[Ymx]

Here YMX watched the most recent drop of Shrinking and its going nowhere. Its affable enough and the actors are very watchable, especially Ford, but it's now just coasting up and down a dead end. Pity as the premise was good

It dropped off very quickly after the first episode. My apple plus subscription has just finished. So I won’t be missing it.

[Tichtheid]

We are on Episode 5 of Hit and Run on Netflix - an Israeli tour guide looks for answers when his wife is killed in the incident of the title - it preposterous but draws you in.

[yermum]

We are on Episode 5 of Hit and Run on Netflix - an Israeli tour guide looks for answers when his wife is killed in the incident of the title - it preposterous but draws you in.

Having watched fauda recently having Doron speaking in English as a tour guide spun me out a bit.

[Blackmac]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

[Raggs]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

[Blackmac]

Love him or loath him, Clarkson's Farm is doing an incredible job of highlighting the difficulties facing farmers these days. Encouraged to diversify but blocked by red tape and Nimbyism at every stop. The twat that stood up and said he would not be able to see the stars at night if Clarkson opened his restaurant was a joke. The other thing that is obvious, and confirmed by Charlie Ireland is that the council's constant decisions against Clarkson have got very personal and vindictive.

Having caught a few tweets that seem to be related, is it bringing up badger culling for TB?

Yeah, not the culling, but the connection between Badgers and Bovine TB.