Stop voting for fucking Tories

[dpedin]

Let's be clear - Oakeshott has used the WhatsApp messages for political reasons. She is married to Tice and both head up the Reform Party who have ambitions to take seats off the Tories in coming elections, they see themselves as the True Brexit, ie racist, jingoistic bastards, Party. The timing isn't an accident - they will have been pissed off to see Head Boy Sunak look like he is partially solving the NI Protocol issue and de facto push the whole EU war into the long grass. This is a disaster for the Reform Party and their hard right, anti EU agenda, they need ongoing conflict with EU to keep their war going. So to steal Sunak's thunder with the Windsor Agreement they have decided to lob in the WhatsApp messages to try and destroy what was left of the Tory Party credibility and to stop them gaining any ground in polls. They also hate Sunak and what they see are the 'soft right' of the Tory Party and are intent on destroying him and his allies. This is very much blue on blue and a fight over the direction of the Tory/Reform Party now with the Reform Party wanting to turn the Tories into the equivalent of the Republican Party in the US - a bunch of mad right wingers driving a populist racist agenda. They are already half way there.

All that being said I have no doubt Oakeshott will now be invited onto the next Question time by the BBC!

[SaintK]

Let's be clear - Oakeshott has used the WhatsApp messages for political reasons. She is married to Tice and both head up the Reform Party who have ambitions to take seats off the Tories in coming elections, they see themselves as the True Brexit, ie racist, jingoistic bastards, Party. The timing isn't an accident - they will have been pissed off to see Head Boy Sunak look like he is partially solving the NI Protocol issue and de facto push the whole EU war into the long grass. This is a disaster for the Reform Party and their hard right, anti EU agenda, they need ongoing conflict with EU to keep their war going. So to steal Sunak's thunder with the Windsor Agreement they have decided to lob in the WhatsApp messages to try and destroy what was left of the Tory Party credibility and to stop them gaining any ground in polls. They also hate Sunak and what they see are the 'soft right' of the Tory Party and are intent on destroying him and his allies. This is very much blue on blue and a fight over the direction of the Tory/Reform Party now with the Reform Party wanting to turn the Tories into the equivalent of the Republican Party in the US - a bunch of mad right wingers driving a populist racist agenda. They are already half way there.

All that being said I have no doubt Oakeshott will now be invited onto the next Question time by the BBC!

Quite probably.
It's still good to see sniveling shits like Hancock and Williams hung out to dry.
Hopefully it won't have any negative effects on the Covid Enquiry

[Slick]

Let's be clear - Oakeshott has used the WhatsApp messages for political reasons. She is married to Tice and both head up the Reform Party who have ambitions to take seats off the Tories in coming elections, they see themselves as the True Brexit, ie racist, jingoistic bastards, Party. The timing isn't an accident - they will have been pissed off to see Head Boy Sunak look like he is partially solving the NI Protocol issue and de facto push the whole EU war into the long grass. This is a disaster for the Reform Party and their hard right, anti EU agenda, they need ongoing conflict with EU to keep their war going. So to steal Sunak's thunder with the Windsor Agreement they have decided to lob in the WhatsApp messages to try and destroy what was left of the Tory Party credibility and to stop them gaining any ground in polls. They also hate Sunak and what they see are the 'soft right' of the Tory Party and are intent on destroying him and his allies. This is very much blue on blue and a fight over the direction of the Tory/Reform Party now with the Reform Party wanting to turn the Tories into the equivalent of the Republican Party in the US - a bunch of mad right wingers driving a populist racist agenda. They are already half way there.

All that being said I have no doubt Oakeshott will now be invited onto the next Question time by the BBC!

Quite probably.
It's still good to see sniveling shits like Hancock and Williams hung out to dry.
Hopefully it won't have any negative effects on the Covid Enquiry

There is part of me that thinks that whatever is said between Ministers/government should stay that way, whatever it is. There is part of me wondering why the fuck HMG doesn't have a secure, internal messaging app (I know whatsapp is pretty secure, but nonetheless) and a lot of me that wonders why it's not a criminal offence for Ministers to share these groups with journalists.

As an aside, the WhatsApp group in Private Eye is my favourite part of the magazine at the moment,. Genius.

[Torquemada 1420]

Let's be clear - Oakeshott has used the WhatsApp messages for political reasons. She is married to Tice and both head up the Reform Party who have ambitions to take seats off the Tories in coming elections, they see themselves as the True Brexit, ie racist, jingoistic bastards, Party. The timing isn't an accident - they will have been pissed off to see Head Boy Sunak look like he is partially solving the NI Protocol issue and de facto push the whole EU war into the long grass. This is a disaster for the Reform Party and their hard right, anti EU agenda, they need ongoing conflict with EU to keep their war going. So to steal Sunak's thunder with the Windsor Agreement they have decided to lob in the WhatsApp messages to try and destroy what was left of the Tory Party credibility and to stop them gaining any ground in polls. They also hate Sunak and what they see are the 'soft right' of the Tory Party and are intent on destroying him and his allies. This is very much blue on blue and a fight over the direction of the Tory/Reform Party now with the Reform Party wanting to turn the Tories into the equivalent of the Republican Party in the US - a bunch of mad right wingers driving a populist racist agenda. They are already half way there.

All that being said I have no doubt Oakeshott will now be invited onto the next Question time by the BBC!

Quite probably.
It's still good to see sniveling shits like Hancock and Williams hung out to dry.
Hopefully it won't have any negative effects on the Covid Enquiry

Yup. Watching all these ****s cannibalise themselves is hilarious.

[Hal Jordan]

Handcock V Oakenshit


Blue on blue going mad

Badenoch, another of the Nasty, Nasty Party wing, was less.than happy with the line of questioning by Caroline Noakes at a committee on equality policies in the private sector.

Bad Enoch was giving it the usual polemic about how they weren't worth the paper they were written on, referring to a number of companies (something like 14 as a number without naming them), and saying how her experience of the private sector told her the 14 policies were gssh, so the Government would be issuing guidelines.

Noakes asked her if she'd read any of the offending policies, and when told no, asked how exactly Bad Enoch knew they weren't any cop, and how the guidelines would improve things.

Needless to say, this was taken well.

She's just another of the current breed of zealots, convinced that they are right without needing any nonsense like evidence, costing or similar. Most of them aren't exactly bright, either, so you get this horrible, undentable arrogance and self-belief when faced with anything.

[Line6 HXFX]

The only reason she is against lockdowns (I learned earlier) is she is stepping out with the wealthy monied property developer Richard James Sunley Tice, a bloke who lost lots during covid as offices shut, and rents stopped, and is extremely angry that his sitting in his arse raking it in, stopped for a few weeks, to you know..save lives.

Buh hupparently she is doing it "in the public interest", so this is just an unfortunate coincidence.

[dpedin]

Handcock V Oakenshit


Blue on blue going mad

Badenoch, another of the Nasty, Nasty Party wing, was less.than happy with the line of questioning by Caroline Noakes at a committee on equality policies in the private sector.

Bad Enoch was giving it the usual polemic about how they weren't worth the paper they were written on, referring to a number of companies (something like 14 as a number without naming them), and saying how her experience of the private sector told her the 14 policies were gssh, so the Government would be issuing guidelines.

Noakes asked her if she'd read any of the offending policies, and when told no, asked how exactly Bad Enoch knew they weren't any cop, and how the guidelines would improve things.

Needless to say, this was taken well.

She's just another of the current breed of zealots, convinced that they are right without needing any nonsense like evidence, costing or similar. Most of them aren't exactly bright, either, so you get this horrible, undentable arrogance and self-belief when faced with anything.

At one point she accused the MP of promoting left wing policies until she was reminded that it was one of the Committee's recommendations and that the Committee was a cross party committee including members of her own party. She wasn't even embarrassed and continued her 'woke war' attack. Utter and complete twat!

[Sandstorm]

She wasn't even embarrassed and continued her attack........

Politics 101 since Trump......

[Tichtheid]

Bad Enoch

Has this been going around for a while?

It's the first time I've seen it


edit - FTAO Mods - this wouldn't post with the lol and clapping imojies

[fishfoodie]

I'm mystified as to why the Torygraph is publishing this stuff ?

It's plainly aimed at damaging the Tories, & presumably Tice is hoping to split their vote in the GE, which is entirely possible.

If that happens, I don't see how the Torygraph benefits ?

[I like neeps]

I'm mystified as to why the Torygraph is publishing this stuff ?

It's plainly aimed at damaging the Tories, & presumably Tice is hoping to split their vote in the GE, which is entirely possible.

If that happens, I don't see how the Torygraph benefits ?

Tory graph is anti lockdown and anyone but Sunak. Get Johnson back and get the show back on the road. All aboard!

[tabascoboy]

Daily Heil also rather batshit today ( though that's not unusual )



https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... ge-344530/

[Raggs]

I mean, did Labour force the tories to have those parties?

[Slick]

I mean, did Labour force the tories to have those parties?

It does seem an easily avoidably stupid thing for Labour to do though.

[I like neeps]

I mean, did Labour force the tories to have those parties?

It does seem an easily avoidably stupid thing for Labour to do though.

I do agree... But it wasn't Sue Gray's partygate that brought down Johnson (the investigation was pretty soft touch) it was Chris Pincher groping folk. Also nobody believes Johnson is innocent anyway.

[C69]

And in other news preliminary reports suggest Mr Johnson lied to the HOC over Partygate.
I wonder if he will try and take down a few with him.
Rishi must be shitting himself.


Which is nice

[_Os_]

Am I being thick* or can any UK company set up a branch or simply operate in NI and then use that route for entry to EU? Or are there blocks to operating in NI for any other UK company?


* in general, asking that question usually means that yes, I'm being thick

Judging by what Leadsom has said, that appears to be what they are suggesting

Invest in Northern Ireland to get single market access, says Andrea Leadsom

Ignoring the hard Brexiters saying being in the Single Market is the greatest thing ever (ffs).

A lot of the discussion about the border was the EU not trusting that the UK wouldn't do what Loathsome seems to maybe be advocating, that NI becomes a funnel for GB companies outside the SM to access the SM without paying in or following the rules (using a brass plate or warehouse or other means). This is a variation on the Brexiter's original big plan, the UK accessing the SM on even better terms and without paying in, Brexit failed when this was shown to be impossible (that's when they started ranting about sovereignty, rather than the German car manufacturers ensuring the UK gets a good deal ie access to the SM). All the stuff the EU has been requesting on data sharing and courts etc (and now has), is about monitoring trade flows and enforcing rules. If NI becomes a hole in the SM then the EU will know, and they're going to want to talk about that and will be in the dominant position as they've been throughout. My guess is if the UK refused to plug the hole it would be a breach of the TCA.

If someone establishes a legitimate business in NI doing whatever, I don't see any reason that would be a problem (which is also what Loathsome could be saying). Just there's not much reason to choose NI above other places in the SM, it can access both the UK and EU market as Sunak says, but NI isn't at the economic core of either.

Loathsome is among the worst of worst Tory morons, amazing she was in the running to become PM at one time, a Truss level candidate.

[GogLais]

I mean, did Labour force the tories to have those parties?

It does seem an easily avoidably stupid thing for Labour to do though.

I do agree... But it wasn't Sue Gray's partygate that brought down Johnson (the investigation was pretty soft touch) it was Chris Pincher groping folk. Also nobody believes Johnson is innocent anyway.

That may all be true but why on earth put yourself on the position of having to defend her appointment? More trouble than it’s worth unless she’s got superpowers.

[fishfoodie]

One of the key factors in attracting FDI is Political security !

Why would you invest in a place where the politicians prefer to stand on the sidelines, & argue about flags, & imaginary sovereignty issues, rather than the very real issues of a crumbing health service, & businesses going to the wall.

Invest Northern Ireland are a pub league compared with the IDA when it comes to attracting FDI, & they have a really hard time selling NI as an investment location when companies will ask how they can be confident that planning will happen, & that the infrastructure that they rely on local Government providing will happen. While NIs budgets are frozen, & decided by the CS& Westminster, NI just isn't worth the risk.

[dpedin]

One of the key factors in attracting FDI is Political security !

Why would you invest in a place where the politicians prefer to stand on the sidelines, & argue about flags, & imaginary sovereignty issues, rather than the very real issues of a crumbing health service, & businesses going to the wall.

Invest Northern Ireland are a pub league compared with the IDA when it comes to attracting FDI, & they have a really hard time selling NI as an investment location when companies will ask how they can be confident that planning will happen, & that the infrastructure that they rely on local Government providing will happen. While NIs budgets are frozen, & decided by the CS& Westminster, NI just isn't worth the risk.

Agreed! Also the so called bonfire of EU legislation is a complete nightmare for companies who wish to trade from UK across the EU. Why would you invest in UK if you dont know what the regulatory framework is going to be in 12 months time, how much it might vary from existing EU regulations in the future and if it does what barriers this might create or the EU might put up in retaliation. The lack of certainty on all of this, plus it is being driven by a bunch of Brexit zealots regardless of cost or damage, will put off lots of overseas investment. Complete and utter madness.

[Hal Jordan]

Daily Heil also rather batshit today ( though that's not unusual )



https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... ge-344530/

A straw poll of nosing in other people's shopping trolleys whilst going round Sainsbury's this morning would suggest that it's the most purchased paper by far, and by the people who actually vote I.e. in their 50s and 60s.

[dpedin]

Surprise surprise - Tories getting hammered in the press - Boris misleading Parliament, the WhatsApp leaks, Windsor Agreement beginning to flounder with DUP and ERG, etc - so what do they do? Yes you've guessed it gone big on the boats in the English Channel! Nothing like a bit of racism and deciding to ignore international law to deflect from all the shit they are in, racism, xenophobia and jingoistic nonsense to appeal to their core base of ex UKIP voters, Daily Express readers and EDL members. Of course it is all nonsense and it will be quietly dropped in a few weeks but their newspaper owning paymasters are happy to run with the usual headlines to try and deflect from the shit heading the Tories way. No doubt the BBC will lead with it too despite knowing full well what Sunak is proposing will be difficult given recent court judgements.

[tc27]

One of the key factors in attracting FDI is Political security !

Why would you invest in a place where the politicians prefer to stand on the sidelines, & argue about flags, & imaginary sovereignty issues, rather than the very real issues of a crumbing health service, & businesses going to the wall.

Invest Northern Ireland are a pub league compared with the IDA when it comes to attracting FDI, & they have a really hard time selling NI as an investment location when companies will ask how they can be confident that planning will happen, & that the infrastructure that they rely on local Government providing will happen. While NIs budgets are frozen, & decided by the CS& Westminster, NI just isn't worth the risk.

Agreed! Also the so called bonfire of EU legislation is a complete nightmare for companies who wish to trade from UK across the EU. Why would you invest in UK if you dont know what the regulatory framework is going to be in 12 months time, how much it might vary from existing EU regulations in the future and if it does what barriers this might create or the EU might put up in retaliation. The lack of certainty on all of this, plus it is being driven by a bunch of Brexit zealots regardless of cost or damage, will put off lots of overseas investment. Complete and utter madness.

There is some truth in this the reality is European business investment is now heading to the US because of the Inflation Reduction Act..and no European nation has the fiscal room to respond. It really is Americas world we just live in it.

[Lobby]

Daily Heil also rather batshit today ( though that's not unusual )



https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... ge-344530/

[I like neeps]

It does seem an easily avoidably stupid thing for Labour to do though.

I do agree... But it wasn't Sue Gray's partygate that brought down Johnson (the investigation was pretty soft touch) it was Chris Pincher groping folk. Also nobody believes Johnson is innocent anyway.

That may all be true but why on earth put yourself on the position of having to defend her appointment? More trouble than it’s worth unless she’s got superpowers.

That's why I agree it was a mistake.

But her and Starmer are extremely similar. Both in their 60s, both lifelong establishment players, neither agree too much with the open government malarky. Like peas in a pod so it makes sense.

And I think that Labour prefer Johnson in charge. Sunak and Starmer are basically the same but with Johnson everyone hates him and there's some separation in terms of Starmer being the grown up in the room which is really his only pitch.

[tabascoboy]

Torygraph are going after Sunak

[TheNatalShark]

Sunak and Starmer are basically the same

Ignoring the detail, I find above very funny in isolation. It may even be funnier if the voter base has perfect sight of the detail.

[SaintK]

Even for the blonde slug this one's a doozy

Former prime minister has requested knighthood for Stanley Johnson as part of his resignation honours list, says the Times
Boris Johnson has put his father, Stanley, forward for a knighthood as part of his resignation honours list, according to reports.
The Times reports that the former prime minister, who left office last September, has nominated Stanley Johnson for the honour.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics ... ighthood

[dpedin]

Even for the blonde slug this one's a doozy

Former prime minister has requested knighthood for Stanley Johnson as part of his resignation honours list, says the Times
Boris Johnson has put his father, Stanley, forward for a knighthood as part of his resignation honours list, according to reports.
The Times reports that the former prime minister, who left office last September, has nominated Stanley Johnson for the honour.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics ... ighthood

Banana Republic time! Sunak will need to show some balls and knock this and other dubious names into touch asap or else he is toast.

[tabascoboy]

Even for the blonde slug this one's a doozy

Former prime minister has requested knighthood for Stanley Johnson as part of his resignation honours list, says the Times
Boris Johnson has put his father, Stanley, forward for a knighthood as part of his resignation honours list, according to reports.
The Times reports that the former prime minister, who left office last September, has nominated Stanley Johnson for the honour.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics ... ighthood

Banana Republic time! Sunak will need to show some balls and knock this and other dubious names into touch asap or else he is toast.

Ah but he has a cunning plan for small boat crossings so election victory is in his grasp! #express

[SaintK]

Even for the blonde slug this one's a doozy

Former prime minister has requested knighthood for Stanley Johnson as part of his resignation honours list, says the Times
Boris Johnson has put his father, Stanley, forward for a knighthood as part of his resignation honours list, according to reports.
The Times reports that the former prime minister, who left office last September, has nominated Stanley Johnson for the honour.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics ... ighthood

Banana Republic time! Sunak will need to show some balls and knock this and other dubious names into touch asap or else he is toast.

Stanley nominated for services to wifebeating and serial groping not for being the blonde slug's Dad!

[fishfoodie]

Even for the blonde slug this one's a doozy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics ... ighthood

Banana Republic time! Sunak will need to show some balls and knock this and other dubious names into touch asap or else he is toast.

Stanley nominated for services to wifebeating and serial groping not for being the blonde slug's Dad!

and Carrie gets a gong for giving him a blowjob in the HoC ?

[SaintK]

Banana Republic time! Sunak will need to show some balls and knock this and other dubious names into touch asap or else he is toast.

Stanley nominated for services to wifebeating and serial groping not for being the blonde slug's Dad!

and Carrie gets a gong for giving him a blowjob in the HoC ?

....that seems fair enough!
Rumour has it his sister has been nominated as well

[Brazil]

Surely the honours committee will just tell him to go and fuck himself?

[sturginho]

Stanley nominated for services to wifebeating and serial groping not for being the blonde slug's Dad!

and Carrie gets a gong for giving him a blowjob in the HoC ?

....that seems fair enough!
Rumour has it his sister has been nominated as well

For the same reason????

[SaintK]

and Carrie gets a gong for giving him a blowjob in the HoC ?

....that seems fair enough!
Rumour has it his sister has been nominated as well

For the same reason????

One would hope not!!!!
More likely for services to editing The Lady magazine

[fishfoodie]

and Carrie gets a gong for giving him a blowjob in the HoC ?

....that seems fair enough!
Rumour has it his sister has been nominated as well

For the same reason????

Well he has compared himself to a Roman Emperor before, but it wasn't Caligula .....

but then again Mad Nad, & Paul Dacre are both on the list too, so various types of fellatio may also have been their Services ...

[tabascoboy]

[petej]

Nice to see the young and minorities represented. At least you can understand why increasing taxes on the working population is now okay for them.

[C69]

Handcock's lawyer on GB News.

Feck me