Things that don't deserve their own thread

[Grandpa]

The way some people are, I could see the salter being someone unhinged by all this 'woke' pity on the poor. "Let 'em grow their own damn food!"

Salt seems too specific a thing for an idiot random act of vandalism person to do. As some said in the thread, there must be CCTV in the area that could narrow down suspects?

Seen another comment elsewhere that because she's probably on disability benefit, someone thinking if she can work this allotment then she shouldn't be getting the benefits and hence...

Sounds quite plausible.

So after all this she may end up in prison for fraud... oh the web we weave...

[Grandpa]

Yeah, it seems a very personal attack but that amount of salt sprinkled around really isn't going to do that much damage. If they raked off the top soil where it is sprinkled she will be fine. I believe it's a bit of a myth how damaging it is and you would need a huge amount for an area like that.

Edit. I see a local garden company have come in and done exactly that. Good on them.

Plus her Gofundme page has £150k in 24 hours... though still doesn't excuse the nastiness of whoever spread the salt...

Bollox!!! Someone just salted my garden and I was using it to supply nachos to poor children going to the cinema. Cough up you pricks.

It's 200k now by the way and to be honest she could just be a pain in the arse. Not like me. Cough up

You got a GofundMeYaPunks page?

[Jock42]

I have Alt-Bergs and they are pretty good. They have a (small) factory in Yorkshire although I think most of the boots are made in Italy.

I bought a pair of Alt-Bergs when I joined the police. They are indestructible and they guarantee they can repair them for life. I think I would find them a bit heavy for long walks but I can assure you they are brilliant for pub fights.

The bootnecks seem to favour Altbergs, I assume the pongos do too?

Them and Lowas generally.

[Grandpa]

Bollox!!! Someone just salted my garden and I was using it to supply nachos to poor children going to the cinema. Cough up you pricks.

It's 200k now by the way and to be honest she could just be a pain in the arse. Not like me. Cough up

You got a GofundMeYaPunks page?

Yes. Yes I do

#Cornsnacks4heroes

donated!

[SaintK]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

[Grandpa]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

Just seen that... absolutely horrific... but hey... "no loss of human life..." what a bizarre thing to say after 18.000 cows die... like they are blocks of concrete that don't feel pain...

"This is a devastating loss that will impact many," Castro County Judge Mandy Gfeller told CNN.

"While the loss of so many animals and property is devastating I am so thankful that there was no loss of human life.

[robmatic]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

The industrial scale of that operation is nuts. 18,000 cows is a lot to have in one place in terms of environmental impact and being able to pay proper attention to the animals. My folks had a few hundred dairy cows when I was growing up and I thought that was a lot.

[laurent]

For the sake of a cheap pint of milk!!!

Approximately 18,000 cows were killed in a blast at a Texas dairy farm earlier this week, according to local authorities.
The explosion, at South Fork Dairy near the town of Dimmitt, also left one person in critical condition.
Authorities believe that machinery in the facility may have ignited methane gas.

The industrial scale of that operation is nuts. 18,000 cows is a lot to have in one place in terms of environmental impact and being able to pay proper attention to the animals. My folks had a few hundred dairy cows when I was growing up and I thought that was a lot.

Completely unsustainable stuff though.

There was uproar in France when one bloke/company planned for a 1000 cow farm.
He got the planning permission for 500 and the place is a mess with animal welfare issues (what ? someone is surprised? ) ...
Not sure this operation is still going as there was a breach of planning permission with >500 cows on the premises.

[Kiwias]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

[Grandpa]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Our school PE kit was standard kit... so everyone had the same. For the final two years of High School though we could wear what we liked as long as it was a shade of brown... the school colours. I think they should have made us wear uniform... it's a good protective mechanism. We were pretty poor so I used to wear my dad's old clothes a lot once I was old enough. But I hated wearing dad's clothes to school as some of my mates recognised stuff I wore as being my dad's... bit embarrassing. But in the end it probably toughened me up.

[Gumboot]

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Caps were abolished at the secondary school I went to a couple years before I started (1974). We were still required to wear ties when we left the school grounds, but hair regulations were very lax by then. Most of us had shoulder length mops, and those who could sported sideburns.

[TB63]

Ties and blazers had to be worn at all times. You were allowed to take your blazer off in a classroom. No trainers, had to be black or brown shoes. In the summer of 1976, we were permitted to go to school without a blazer!..

[Kiwias]

Ties and blazers had to be worn at all times. You were allowed to take your blazer off in a classroom. No trainers, had to be black or brown shoes. In the summer of 1976, we were permitted to go to school without a blazer!..

That pretty much sums up my high school uniform regulations, except the last bit. We had to wear blazers to school even in the summer.

[Guy Smiley]

If we could manage a tie in with hiking boots and school uniforms we could have a mega thread.

[Kiwias]

If we could manage a tie in with hiking boots and school uniforms we could have a mega thread.

Is that a round-about way of telling us that you wore hiking boots to school?

[tabascoboy]

Over dinner this evening, my wife and I were chatting about primary schools and various restrictions and I was wondering how it is in various other countries.

School uniforms: the primary schools I attended in Te Poi, Northcote, or Te Kopuru did not have uniforms but my grandkids' school in Hauraki requires them to wear a uniform. In Japan, most primary schools and all junior high and high schools have uniforms.

My intermediate schools in Matamata and ChCh had uniforms as did CBHS.

The bag you used to carry your class work and books: we had no restrictions or regulations at any school I attended and my grandkids also have none.
All schools in Japan have one permitted bag style.

PhysEd gear: I don't remember ever having required kit but all schools in Japan have a required shirt and pants.

Hair: in the good old days, our hair was not permitted to reach our collars or cover the ears and forehead but I understand that is far less restrictive now. In Japan, it must not reach the eyebrows , while perms or curled hair.

Is that the red satchel perchance, or is that only elementary/middle school?

[Monkey Magic]

My daughter just started primary this year, school shirts, trousers, shorts, sun hats for summer terms, school raincoat, school jumper.

Thankfully the school encourage the second hand trading among parents, otherwise spending $40-60 on each bit of kit that she would grow out of in 4 months would do my head in.

Glad our local school has gone for practical clothing options like polo shirts rather than more dress options

[Kiwias]

Is that the red satchel perchance, or is that only elementary/middle school?

That is the prescribed school bag for primary schools nationwide (middle and high schools each determine their own bag) and although they come in a range of colours now, black and red are by far the most common colours.

[Kiwias]

Our school PE kit was standard kit... so everyone had the same. For the final two years of High School though we could wear what we liked as long as it was a shade of brown... the school colours. I think they should have made us wear uniform... it's a good protective mechanism. We were pretty poor so I used to wear my dad's old clothes a lot once I was old enough. But I hated wearing dad's clothes to school as some of my mates recognised stuff I wore as being my dad's... bit embarrassing. But in the end it probably toughened me up.

I was so glad when I got to intermediate/high school to have uniforms because like you, we were pretty poor (Dad was a grossly underpaid methodist minister) and stood out in our hand-me-downs.

[tabascoboy]

it begins...

[Grandpa]

Our school PE kit was standard kit... so everyone had the same. For the final two years of High School though we could wear what we liked as long as it was a shade of brown... the school colours. I think they should have made us wear uniform... it's a good protective mechanism. We were pretty poor so I used to wear my dad's old clothes a lot once I was old enough. But I hated wearing dad's clothes to school as some of my mates recognised stuff I wore as being my dad's... bit embarrassing. But in the end it probably toughened me up.

I was so glad when I got to intermediate/high school to have uniforms because like you, we were pretty poor (Dad was a grossly underpaid methodist minister) and stood out in our hand-me-downs.

That must have been an interesting upbringing... I've always wanted to ask you... how did you end up in Japan? Did work take you there?

[Kiwias]

I was so glad when I got to intermediate/high school to have uniforms because like you, we were pretty poor (Dad was a grossly underpaid methodist minister) and stood out in our hand-me-downs.

That must have been an interesting upbringing... I've always wanted to ask you... how did you end up in Japan? Did work take you there?

My Dad was an amazing man who worked incredibly hard to look after his four children, nothing but respect for him, especially because along the rough journey he also beat his addiction to alcohol and stayed sober for 40 odd years till his death.

I started to study Japanese in the 6th form at high school and continued at varsity, doing a double major in French and Japanese, but after my second year, I realised that I was not going to get anywhere meaningful in either unless I lived in that country. My best teacher from high school (French and Latin) and a man I respected enormously and met regularly in those two years at varsity told me I should go to whichever country I wanted to specialise in.

As luck would have it, during the first year at varsity I had become very 'friendly' with the young Japanese lass (3 years older than me) who was my teacher at high school. One thing led to another and I decided to follow her back to Japan. That was early-1974 and the rest, as they say, is history.

[Grandpa]

I was so glad when I got to intermediate/high school to have uniforms because like you, we were pretty poor (Dad was a grossly underpaid methodist minister) and stood out in our hand-me-downs.

That must have been an interesting upbringing... I've always wanted to ask you... how did you end up in Japan? Did work take you there?

My Dad was an amazing man who worked incredibly hard to look after his four children, nothing but respect for him, especially because along the rough journey he also beat his addiction to alcohol and stayed sober for 40 odd years till his death.

I started to study Japanese in the 6th form at high school and continued at varsity, doing a double major in French and Japanese, but after my second year, I realised that I was not going to get anywhere meaningful in either unless I lived in that country. My best teacher from high school (French and Latin) and a man I respected enormously and met regularly in those two years at varsity told me I should go to whichever country I wanted to specialise in.

As luck would have it, during the first year at varsity I had become very 'friendly' with the young Japanese lass (3 years older than me) who was my teacher at high school. One thing led to another and I decided to follow her back to Japan. That was early-1974 and the rest, as they say, is history.

So you have been there for almost 50 years! Do you still have a Kiwi accent? I thought I was doing well with over 30 years in the UK, but that's nothing compared to you. You had a completely different culture to adapt to. And you embraced it by the sounds of it.
My dad was an alcoholic as well... but he never stopped. He never saw it as an issue... and actually only Alzheimer's slowed him down during the last ten years of his life.. he became more pleasant.. but was not really the same person either. He's probably the reason I don't drink much. For some reason all three siblings don't like the taste of alcohol (because of him?). I have to force myself to drink it when I do. Your dad did well.

[Kiwias]

So you have been there for almost 50 years! Do you still have a Kiwi accent? I thought I was doing well with over 30 years in the UK, but that's nothing compared to you. You had a completely different culture to adapt to. And you embraced it by the sounds of it.
My dad was an alcoholic as well... but he never stopped. He never saw it as an issue... and actually only Alzheimer's slowed him down during the last ten years of his life.. he became more pleasant.. but was not really the same person either. He's probably the reason I don't drink much. For some reason all three siblings don't like the taste of alcohol (because of him?). I have to force myself to drink it when I do. Your dad did well.

Thanks for the comment on my Dad. He was an absolute star and was always my hero -- something I made sure I told him heaps of times before he died.

I have moved around a bit, spending time in the States, back in NZ, in Australia, and in HK in the 49 years since I first came here but I reckon the total elapsed time in Japan is about 38 years.

My accent has become pretty neutral as I worked with several nationalities in the finance industry.

[Grandpa]

So you have been there for almost 50 years! Do you still have a Kiwi accent? I thought I was doing well with over 30 years in the UK, but that's nothing compared to you. You had a completely different culture to adapt to. And you embraced it by the sounds of it.
My dad was an alcoholic as well... but he never stopped. He never saw it as an issue... and actually only Alzheimer's slowed him down during the last ten years of his life.. he became more pleasant.. but was not really the same person either. He's probably the reason I don't drink much. For some reason all three siblings don't like the taste of alcohol (because of him?). I have to force myself to drink it when I do. Your dad did well.

Thanks for the comment on my Dad. He was an absolute star and was always my hero -- something I made sure I told him heaps of times before he died.

I have moved around a bit, spending time in the States, back in NZ, in Australia, and in HK in the 49 years since I first came here but I reckon the total elapsed time in Japan is about 38 years.

My accent has become pretty neutral as I worked with several nationalities in the finance industry.

I have two mates who left NZ at the same time as me... we travelled around Europe together, but they both ended up in Canada marrying Canadians... and both sound Canadian now. For some reason, I kept my Kiwi accent... not sure how. I'll probably end up living back in NZ at some point... so a Kiwi accent will help me re-assimilate...

I would love to see my dad as my hero. I do for some things, but ultimately he was a bit of a drunken tyrant. My mother is my real hero... I see her how you see your dad probably. You sound like you miss him. Do you get to see much local rugby in Japan?

[Kiwias]

I have two mates who left NZ at the same time as me... we travelled around Europe together, but they both ended up in Canada marrying Canadians... and both sound Canadian now. For some reason, I kept my Kiwi accent... not sure how. I'll probably end up living back in NZ at some point... so a Kiwi accent will help me re-assimilate...

I would love to see my dad as my hero. I do for some things, but ultimately he was a bit of a drunken tyrant. My mother is my real hero... I see her how you see your dad probably. You sound like you miss him. Do you get to see much local rugby in Japan?

My son reckons my Kiwi accent emerges pretty soon when I am in NZ on holiday, and like you, I will end up in NZ so that will help.

My Dad was a right bastard when we were kids but he recognised his demon and took steps to overcome it and become a decent father. It has been over five years since he died and I still miss him quite badly at times.

My mother was evil personified and I had no contact with her in the last 20 years of her life, don't even know exactly when she died as my siblings knew better than to let me know.

I watch some Japanese rugby on tv occasionally but prefer watching NPC and Super Rugby.

[Grandpa]

I have two mates who left NZ at the same time as me... we travelled around Europe together, but they both ended up in Canada marrying Canadians... and both sound Canadian now. For some reason, I kept my Kiwi accent... not sure how. I'll probably end up living back in NZ at some point... so a Kiwi accent will help me re-assimilate...

I would love to see my dad as my hero. I do for some things, but ultimately he was a bit of a drunken tyrant. My mother is my real hero... I see her how you see your dad probably. You sound like you miss him. Do you get to see much local rugby in Japan?

My son reckons my Kiwi accent emerges pretty soon when I am in NZ on holiday, and like you, I will end up in NZ so that will help.

My Dad was a right bastard when we were kids but he recognised his demon and took steps to overcome it and become a decent father. It has been over five years since he died and I still miss him quite badly at times.

My mother was evil personified and I had no contact with her in the last 20 years of her life, don't even know exactly when she died as my siblings knew better than to let me know.

I watch some Japanese rugby on tv occasionally but prefer watching NPC and Super Rugby.

I lost my dad 4 years ago... but he started struggling with Alzheimer's back around about 2012.... so I lost him then really. He was one reason I left NZ in 1990... to get away from him...
A shame your mother was evil. But at least one of your parents was good! My mum is still here.. just. I have to care for her 24/7 now. But will hit me when she goes... she was the one who always backed me through my life. I will feel it like you miss your dad I am sure.

[Kiwias]

Filthy fucking northern scum.


https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/nort ... ns-4105309

[Blackmac]

Filthy fucking Scotsmen


https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/nort ... ns-4105309

Ehh, Northern Rail is north of England. Doesn't operate in Scotland.

[Kiwias]

Filthy fucking Scotsmen


https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/nort ... ns-4105309

Ehh, Northern Rail is north of England. Doesn't operate in Scotland.

I took the site name as indicating it was happening in Scotland. My bad.

[mat the expat]

If we could manage a tie in with hiking boots and school uniforms we could have a mega thread.

Is that a round-about way of telling us that you wore hiking boots to school?

I went to school in North Wales, many's the time I turned up having hiked down from 1200ft in the snow to find school closed as the teachers who lived in the next village couldn't drive to the school.

Back up the hill then!

I took advantage of being one of the exam-passing group to rebel against all of the uniform (unsurprisingly, I know)

Long hair
Earring
Leather jacket instead of Black blazer
"Wrong" type of white shirt
Tie tied wrong way around with badges on it
Blue Cords instead of black trousers
White socks
Desert boots

[Kiwias]

I went to school in North Wales, many's the time I turned up having hiked down from 1200ft in the snow to find school closed as the teachers who lived in the next village couldn't drive to the school.

Back up the hill then!

I took advantage of being one of the exam-passing group to rebel against all of the uniform (unsurprisingly, I know)

Long hair
Earring
Leather jacket instead of Black blazer
"Wrong" type of white shirt
Tie tied wrong way around with badges on it
Blue Cords instead of black trousers
White socks
Desert boots

Did you have a cause?

[inactionman]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:

The park authority CEO, Catherine Mealing-Jones, said: “The more we looked into it the more we realised the name Brecon Beacons doesn’t make any sense. It’s a very English description of something that probably never happened. A massive carbon-burning brazier is not a good look for an environmental organisation.”

It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

[mat the expat]

I went to school in North Wales, many's the time I turned up having hiked down from 1200ft in the snow to find school closed as the teachers who lived in the next village couldn't drive to the school.

Back up the hill then!

I took advantage of being one of the exam-passing group to rebel against all of the uniform (unsurprisingly, I know)

Long hair
Earring
Leather jacket instead of Black blazer
"Wrong" type of white shirt
Tie tied wrong way around with badges on it
Blue Cords instead of black trousers
White socks
Desert boots

Did you have a cause?

Not specifically, I've always been rebellious

[mat the expat]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:

The park authority CEO, Catherine Mealing-Jones, said: “The more we looked into it the more we realised the name Brecon Beacons doesn’t make any sense. It’s a very English description of something that probably never happened. A massive carbon-burning brazier is not a good look for an environmental organisation.”

It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

Most of my Welsh speaking friends fully support it - along with Yr Wyddfa

Can't say I blame them

[inactionman]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:

The park authority CEO, Catherine Mealing-Jones, said: “The more we looked into it the more we realised the name Brecon Beacons doesn’t make any sense. It’s a very English description of something that probably never happened. A massive carbon-burning brazier is not a good look for an environmental organisation.”

It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

Most of my Welsh speaking friends fully support it - along with Yr Wyddfa

Can't say I blame them

I've no problems with it, using a local language for a local place. My reservation is the parochialism of the bolded quote. But that could of course be the Guardian on their usual identify politics trip, with a bit of selective sampling.

I'm hoping they get a grip on the litterers, on more than one occasion I've had to tidy up beercans some ned has left around a patch of scorched earth beside one of the waterfalls. I understand that a few beers around a BBQ in an idyllic landscape is a nice way to spend a summer's evening, but for god's sake tidy up after yourselves.

[GogLais]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:

The park authority CEO, Catherine Mealing-Jones, said: “The more we looked into it the more we realised the name Brecon Beacons doesn’t make any sense. It’s a very English description of something that probably never happened. A massive carbon-burning brazier is not a good look for an environmental organisation.”

It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

Most of my Welsh speaking friends fully support it - along with Yr Wyddfa

Can't say I blame them

Good idea doing it but the stuff about burning beacons is a bit OTT. As regards priorities, I’d hope a CEO can handle more than one thing at a time.

[mat the expat]

It'll all come out in the wash.

Re CEO's, um plenty I've worked with would struggle to find their own arse with a map sometimes....

[inactionman]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:



It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

Most of my Welsh speaking friends fully support it - along with Yr Wyddfa

Can't say I blame them

Good idea doing it but the stuff about burning beacons is a bit OTT. As regards priorities, I’d hope a CEO can handle more than one thing at a time.

I'm going to take a punt and assume they haven't got a bottomless budget or limitless resource.

I'll come clean and admit I've worked in a number of places subject to rebranding, and despite assurances over positive impacts on culture and perception etc it's never made a jot of substantive difference.

[Slick]

The Brecon Beacons national park is undergoing something of a corporate rebrand - now to be known as the Bannau Brycheiniog, and references to flares removed from branding (not that many people I knew called it the Beacons, I always referred to it as the Brecons).

I utterly love the place, many happy days and weekends away there when we lived nearby, although not not quite sure what the CEO is doing with rebrand - some odd choices of phrase:



It's a what?

Anyway, silly parochial nonsenses aside, it's encouraging to see there's drive to address some of the issues even if the actual solution is well outside the gift and ability to a park to deliver. There are real challenges for communities in the Brecon area, not least by second home ownership (not always entirely a terrible thing, but it is when only occupied for a month or two a year) and by lack of meaningful employment. Quite what the parks CEO intends to do to tackle this is a little beyond me - ironically, making it an even more attractive area is only going to make the second home issue worse.

The only real contribution the CEO could make is to the environment of the park itself, and she's indicating there will be effort put into rewilding and sorting some of the water pollution - I'd worry some of this is due to farming, which does clash with a desire to increase employment. Problems with littering (which is in some areas utterly appalling, particular against the context of the natural beauty) and wild fires are people issues, and I'd think they'd unfortunately be harder to fix.

TLDR - the CEO has got her hands full, given her plan, and I'd suggest rebrands shouldn't really be top of list.

Most of my Welsh speaking friends fully support it - along with Yr Wyddfa

Can't say I blame them

Good idea doing it but the stuff about burning beacons is a bit OTT. As regards priorities, I’d hope a CEO can handle more than one thing at a time.

Yeah, completely weird that it is causing such a stir, but the mention of burning beacons just to squeeze in a bit of greenness was idiotic and seems to be the root of most of it.