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Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:09 pm

Munster deserved winners. Bullied the Stormers.

Libbok back to his old ways. Brannas and Xaba missing. Dan du Plessis the best Stormers on the day. Congrats to fat Frans. Must be his first try ever in rugby.

Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:15 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:09 pm Munster deserved winners. Bullied the Stormers.

Libbok back to his old ways. Brannas and Xaba missing. Dan du Plessis the best Stormers on the day. Congrats to fat Frans. Must be his first try ever in rugby.

Good crowd, & a bit of niggle that showed how much the players wanted to win.

I think it was you who said it was good to see these new rivalries build ?

I was thinking the same watching Lions V Leinster, they don't do dull games, & they both want to play similar games.

Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:21 pm

Marmion signs off his Connacht career with a try

Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:28 pm

38 - 19 FT in Galway

Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:21 pm Marmion signs off his Connacht career with a try

Connacht career in Galway you mean?

Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:55 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:15 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:09 pm Munster deserved winners. Bullied the Stormers.

Libbok back to his old ways. Brannas and Xaba missing. Dan du Plessis the best Stormers on the day. Congrats to fat Frans. Must be his first try ever in rugby.
Good crowd, & a bit of niggle that showed how much the players wanted to win.

I think it was you who said it was good to see these new rivalries build ?

I was thinking the same watching Lions V Leinster, they don't do dull games, & they both want to play similar games.

The Irish vs Saffer rivalry is building nicely.

Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:04 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:32 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:21 pm Marmion signs off his Connacht career with a try
Connacht career in Galway you mean?

Correct, this is the last home fixture.

Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:13 pm

Fine servant for the team. 11 years.
Any word on what Aki is doing?

Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am

The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:45 am

Would be some choke from Ulster if they manage to balls up getting 2nd, after the lay-up from Munster. I don't for a second, doubt our ability to completely shit the bed though.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.

Bulls and Sharks are pretty much secured unless the Stormers losing streak continues and Benetton beats you by lots and lots.....like plenty. Like 84 points.....

I don't know where you are getting your info from.....

The South African teams winning the weekend are getting into form....the others have peaked too soon and will struggle with travel , the ref and being overplayed.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:09 am

Where are all the Stormers supporters....I hope they are not hiding away

Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:47 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
Bulls and Sharks are pretty much secured unless the Stormers losing streak continues and Benetton beats you by lots and lots.....like plenty. Like 84 points.....

I don't know where you are getting your info from.....

The South African teams winning the weekend are getting into form....the others have peaked too soon and will struggle with travel , the ref and being overplayed.

Post the log again and look where the $hark$ is. Your 8th position depend on Connacht and the Bulls. If they win this weekend, you are out gone. Challenge Cup and out the competition. 8th position will be reserved for Cardiff.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:51 am

Connacht and Bulls can go through even losing and getting 2 bonus points (within 7 and 4 tries) on PD.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:15 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:47 am
Sards wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:24 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
Bulls and Sharks are pretty much secured unless the Stormers losing streak continues and Benetton beats you by lots and lots.....like plenty. Like 84 points.....

I don't know where you are getting your info from.....

The South African teams winning the weekend are getting into form....the others have peaked too soon and will struggle with travel , the ref and being overplayed.
Post the log again and look where the $hark$ is. Your 8th position depend on Connacht and the Bulls. If they win this weekend, you are out gone. Challenge Cup and out the competition. 8th position will be reserved for Cardiff.

No sorry only out of Champions Cup, still in quarters against Leinster or Ulster away.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.

You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:43 am

CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.

If Glasgow let Connacht win and Munster lose in SA, Glasgow have Connacht in the QF rather than Munster. Scope for shenanigans.

Although Glasgow v Munster is probably the only international URC match-up with proper needle between the sides, so I'm assuming Glasgow would relish taking on Munster in the QF.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:06 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:43 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.
If Glasgow let Connacht win and Munster lose in SA, Glasgow have Connacht in the QF rather than Munster. Scope for shenanigans.

Although Glasgow v Munster is probably the only international URC match-up with proper needle between the sides, so I'm assuming Glasgow would relish taking on Munster in the QF.

Interesting point. Even less for Glasgow to play for!

Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:08 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.

Cheers Boet.

Well Connacht PD is 32 Glasgow 113, they will need to let Connacht win by 81 plus. Glasgow can overtake the Stormers if they lose to Benneton.

So its pretty much Leinster vs Sharks, Ulster vs Bulls, Stormers vs Connacht & Glasgow vs Munster.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:08 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:21 am The Bulls and $hark$ under pressure going in the last round of making the quarters and qualifying for next years Champions
Cup. Cardiff look like qualifying from the Welsh conference which means the 2 lowest from Benneton (40) vs Stormers Away, $hark$ (41) vs Munster home, Bulls (43) vs Leinster home or Connacht (44) vs Glasgow away will fall out. If it go to PD $hark$ are in trouble. The Stormers need help from Embra to get into 2nd spot.
You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.
Cheers Boet.

Well Connacht PD is 32 Glasgow 113, they will need to let Connacht win by 81 plus. Glasgow can overtake the Stormers if they lose to Benneton.

So its pretty much Leinster vs Sharks, Ulster vs Bulls, Stormers vs Connacht & Glasgow vs Munster.

A BP win for Connacht and 0 points for Munster would make Munster and Connacht swap places, though. Unlikely, but possible. And if Connacht lose in Glasgow, both Bulls and Sharks can overtake them with any win they themselves get. So it could be Leinster v Connacht.

Glasgow v Munster the only one that's pretty much locked in.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:44 pm

Oom, not sure what you're on about.

Connacht can't overtake Glasgow. No one can. The point was that they might game the match to bump Connacht into 5th so they have an easier quarter final.

If Connacht finish level with Munster then they go ahead on the table so a bonus win for Connacht would mean Munster would need two bonus points against the Sharks.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:46 pm

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:47 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:08 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:52 am

You seem to be using an outdated table

Sharks are on 46, Connacht 49, Bulls 48, Treviso 41.

Doesn't really change the analysis though.

Glasgow have nothing to play for but are at home. It'll be interesting to see their team and effort.
Cheers Boet.

Well Connacht PD is 32 Glasgow 113, they will need to let Connacht win by 81 plus. Glasgow can overtake the Stormers if they lose to Benneton.

So its pretty much Leinster vs Sharks, Ulster vs Bulls, Stormers vs Connacht & Glasgow vs Munster.
A BP win for Connacht and 0 points for Munster would make Munster and Connacht swap places, though. Unlikely, but possible. And if Connacht lose in Glasgow, both Bulls and Sharks can overtake them with any win they themselves get. So it could be Leinster v Connacht.

Glasgow v Munster the only one that's pretty much locked in.

Not sure how that's locked in? Top four are locked but 5-8 are all up for grabs and may come down to PD or games won.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:14 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:46 pm
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:47 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:08 pm
Cheers Boet.

Well Connacht PD is 32 Glasgow 113, they will need to let Connacht win by 81 plus. Glasgow can overtake the Stormers if they lose to Benneton.

So its pretty much Leinster vs Sharks, Ulster vs Bulls, Stormers vs Connacht & Glasgow vs Munster.
A BP win for Connacht and 0 points for Munster would make Munster and Connacht swap places, though. Unlikely, but possible. And if Connacht lose in Glasgow, both Bulls and Sharks can overtake them with any win they themselves get. So it could be Leinster v Connacht.

Glasgow v Munster the only one that's pretty much locked in.
Not sure how that's locked in? Top four are locked but 5-8 are all up for grabs and may come down to PD or games won.

Munster are 4 points ahead of Connacht and 5 of the Bulls. Barring both Glasgow and Munster majorly fucking up (or in Glasgow's case, throwing the match), that tie is locked in. I really can't see that one change.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Connacht only need to finish level with Munster and Glasgow have nothing to play for. It's not a stretch that Munster only get a bonus point and Connacht get a bonus win.

It's certainly not so much of a stretch that Glasgow/Munster is locked in.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:14 pm

Does the top Welsh side take the 8th position by default

Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:36 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:14 pm Does the top Welsh side take the 8th position by default

Only for big cup qualification.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:39 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:14 pm Does the top Welsh side take the 8th position by default

Only for Heineken Champions Cup next year.

Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:09 pm

Yoh. Panicked for a bit

Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:20 am

So are we going to see Manie or Willemse kicking this coming weekend.

On that news the Sharks have secured another flyhalf to bolster their stocks.

Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 am

Which team in SA is it that Jaco van der Walt is going to?

Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:22 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 am Which team in SA is it that Jaco van der Walt is going to?

Bulls

Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:12 am

DHL Stormers vs Benneton on Daie Craven Stadium (kick off 18h30 Friday) : 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Angelo Davids, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Seabelo Senatla, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Willie Engelbrecht, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Ernst van Rhyn, 20 Ben-Jason Dixon, 21 Marcel Theunissen, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Ruhan Nel.

Date: Friday, April 21
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 18.30 (18.30 Italian time; 16.30 GMT)
Referee: Hollie Davidson
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Mike Adamson

(Hollie should watch her step in Stellenbosch)

Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:58 am

6 local Paul Rosers and 4 Paarl boys plus Duvenhage for Benneton. They should fit right in Danie Craven Stadium

Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:18 am

Siya Kolisi & Thomas Tank last matches in Durban.

Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:42 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:12 am DHL Stormers vs Benneton on Daie Craven Stadium (kick off 18h30 Friday) : 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Angelo Davids, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Seabelo Senatla, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Willie Engelbrecht, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Ernst van Rhyn, 20 Ben-Jason Dixon, 21 Marcel Theunissen, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Ruhan Nel.

Date: Friday, April 21
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 18.30 (18.30 Italian time; 16.30 GMT)
Referee: Hollie Davidson
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Mike Adamson

(Hollie should watch her step in Stellenbosch)

15 Matteo Minozzi (4)
14 Edoardo Padovani (37)
13 Joaquin Riera (44)
12 Marco Zanon (65)
11 Marcus Watson (13)
10 Tomas Albornoz (31)
9 Dewaldt Duvenage (89) (C)

8 Henry Time-Stowers (12)
7 Manuel Zuliani (45)
6 Alessandro Izekor (12)
5 Riccardo Favretto (27)
4 Marco Lazzaroni (127)
3 Filippo Alongi (29)
2 Siua Maile (12)
1 Thomas Gallo (40)

A disposizione: 16 Bautista Bernasconi (4), 17 Federico Zani (73), 18 Nahuel Tetaz (29), 19 Niccolò Cannone (59), 20 Lorenzo Cannone (25), 21 Alessandro Garbisi (28), 22 Jacob Umaga (14), 23 Tommaso Menoncello (31).

Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:47 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:12 am DHL Stormers vs Benneton on Daie Craven Stadium (kick off 18h30 Friday) : 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Angelo Davids, 13 Dan du Plessis, 12 Damian Willemse, 11 Seabelo Senatla, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Hacjivah Dayimani, 6 Willie Engelbrecht, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 JJ Kotze, 1 Steven Kitshoff (captain).
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 Ernst van Rhyn, 20 Ben-Jason Dixon, 21 Marcel Theunissen, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Ruhan Nel.

Date: Friday, April 21
Venue: Danie Craven Stadium, Stellenbosch
Kick-off: 18.30 (18.30 Italian time; 16.30 GMT)
Referee: Hollie Davidson
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadezweni, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Mike Adamson

(Hollie should watch her step in Stellenbosch)

Blommetjies at fullback is a very good change.
Overall a good side.

Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:55 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:22 pm
robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 am Which team in SA is it that Jaco van der Walt is going to?
Bulls

Cheers. Plenty of competition for him there!

Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:45 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:55 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:22 pm
robmatic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:13 am Which team in SA is it that Jaco van der Walt is going to?
Bulls
Cheers. Plenty of competition for him there!

Morne Steyn is probably finish. Chris Smith their 10.

Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:19 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:14 pm https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/os ... 41679.html

Sounds like a shit time for the lad

Jaysus, that's rough! Had a friend who went through issues in his 20s but got the help and medication required and is thankfully thriving now. Hopefully this guy has the same outcome.

Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:49 pm

Nice crowd in the Bos