Coronation day

[Ymx]

I guess it’s happening.

Any views?

Charles has requested we all verbally swear allegiance to him. Is he really that tone deaf?

Edit: poll added

[Ymx]

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Before any captain obvious’ says - yes it’s a parody account - and 7.17 is TIT - Sandford is the Hot Fuzz town

[GogLais]

If I were designing a country it wouldn’t be a monarchy but it’s what we have and I don’t see a change to a republic happening any time soon. I’ll probably watch the ceremony out of curiosity but I won’t be pledging anything.

[fishfoodie]

If I were designing a country it wouldn’t be a monarchy but it’s what we have and I don’t see a change to a republic happening any time soon. I’ll probably watch the ceremony out of curiosity but I won’t be pledging anything.

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

[Sandstorm]

£100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.

[SaintK]

£100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.

Hopefully it does
The cost has been calculated at £250m plus!!!

[GogLais]

£100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.

It’s pretty desperate if we’re basing our constitution on what attracts the tourists. And anyway France, Italy, etc seem to pull them in easily enough.

[GogLais]

If I were designing a country it wouldn’t be a monarchy but it’s what we have and I don’t see a change to a republic happening any time soon. I’ll probably watch the ceremony out of curiosity but I won’t be pledging anything.

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

[Blackmac]

£100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.

Pretty much my take on it. Don't agree with the Royal Family but its cost is massively outweighed by the benefits it brings to the UK economy.

[fishfoodie]

If I were designing a country it wouldn’t be a monarchy but it’s what we have and I don’t see a change to a republic happening any time soon. I’ll probably watch the ceremony out of curiosity but I won’t be pledging anything.

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

Sorry. I know I'm being unfair.

Even as an outsider it sticks in my craw that a Government that didn't think funding school meals for children was a priority, didn't even pause for a microsecond before waving this thru

What other modern monarch had a Coronation ?, let alone in the middle of a National cost-of-living crisis.

[Ymx]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

[Ymx]

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

Sorry. I know I'm being unfair.

Even as an outsider it sticks in my craw that a Government that didn't think funding school meals for children was a priority, didn't even pause for a microsecond before waving this thru

What other modern monarch had a Coronation ?, let alone in the middle of a National cost-of-living crisis.

Probably the other ones where the royals are head of state? No?

[Hal Jordan]

If I were designing a country it wouldn’t be a monarchy but it’s what we have and I don’t see a change to a republic happening any time soon. I’ll probably watch the ceremony out of curiosity but I won’t be pledging anything.

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

Two pensioners being taken to church in a golden pram.

[fishfoodie]

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

Sorry. I know I'm being unfair.

Even as an outsider it sticks in my craw that a Government that didn't think funding school meals for children was a priority, didn't even pause for a microsecond before waving this thru

What other modern monarch had a Coronation ?, let alone in the middle of a National cost-of-living crisis.

Probably the other ones where the royals are head of state? No?

Nope.

Coronations in Europe were previously held in the monarchies of Europe. The United Kingdom is the only monarchy in Europe that still practices coronation.[1] Current European monarchies have either replaced coronations with simpler ceremonies to mark an accession (e.g. Norway and Denmark) or have never practiced coronations (e.g. The Netherlands and Belgium). Most monarchies today only require a simple oath to be taken in the presence of the country's legislature.

[Ymx]

Are the others still head of state though?

Edit: I guess so

The Danish Queen is the official head of government in Denmark, but her role is largely ceremonial.

https://denmark.dk/society-and-business ... d-politics

[Ymx]

We are probably more in line with head of state ceremonial pomp as with Saudi Arabia and North Korea.

[Blackmac]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

[GogLais]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

So I get an extra £20 or so a year because we’ve got a king?

[Ymx]

I think they are just saying everyone who visits Buckingham palace and is a tourist is counted. So irrespective of whether they would have come anyway, which I suspect 90% still would.

But in any case, taking that number £1.8bn, of which
1.5bn goes to London rip off merchants,
and £300million to the government through VAT.

That £300mill is then distributed, but presumably after what they pay to the royal family. A bit pricier this year too. So in terms of government cash flow it’s probably a loss.

[Blackmac]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

So I get an extra £20 or so a year because we’ve got a king?

Only if you swear allegiance....

[GogLais]

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

So I get an extra £20 or so a year because we’ve got a king?

Only if you swear allegiance....

Tough one.

[Ymx]

Imagine travelling to London to potentially see this thing stick it’s head out of a window



Nightmarish stuff

[Ymx]

In order to get my citizenship, I had to swear my allegiance to the queen. No issue with that, she was solid in my eyes.

I couldn’t have gone through with it, if it was Charles.

[charltom]

Just being a good boy & paying your part of the £100 million bill, so one of the worlds richest men can play dress up games

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

Sorry. I know I'm being unfair.

Even as an outsider it sticks in my craw that a Government that didn't think funding school meals for children was a priority,

What???

Half the kids at my school are on free school meals. What are you on about?

[Hal Jordan]

Imagine travelling to London to potentially see this thing stick it’s head out of a window



Nightmarish stuff

Andrew Parker-Bowles: I say, darling, now that we're married, what say you convert to Catholicism?

Camilla: I'd love to, but I can't. For reasons.

Yes folks, you too can fuck your way to the top!

[fishfoodie]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

The underlying report is, to say the least, light on detail !

https://brandirectory.com/reports/monarchy-2017/

Anyone can pluck numbers from their asses, & present these as estimates, but I've always thought that the value of the Royal Family to the economy was like the Benefits of Brexit discussion; where I wouldn't take anything on faith from the Pro side, because ultimately they had no data, & they were in search of an argument to support the position they'd all ready taken.

The other part is that whatever value they did add, how much of that was solely down to QE II herself ?

She'll be an impossible act to follow, & if you remove her immense presence from the equation, will the numbers still stack up, or would you be better off with a Swedish, of Dutch scale of Monarchy ?

[tabascoboy]

In order to get my citizenship, I had to swear my allegiance to the queen. No issue with that, she was solid in my eyes.

I couldn’t have gone through with it, if it was Charles.

[fishfoodie]

I suppose you agree with everything single thing your government spends money on.

Sorry. I know I'm being unfair.

Even as an outsider it sticks in my craw that a Government that didn't think funding school meals for children was a priority,

What???

Half the kids at my school are on free school meals. What are you on about?

I was referring to Marcus Rashford's campaign to maintain the vouchers over the summer break

[ASMO]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

Palace of Versail;les is the most visited Royal Palace in the world and the French did the right thing a couple of hundred years ago and cut the fuckers heads off, so no its got fuck all to do with the royal family.

[Sandstorm]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

Palace of Versail;les is the most visited Royal Palace in the world and the French did the right thing a couple of hundred years ago and cut the fuckers heads off, so no its got fuck all to do with the royal family.

The French do the right thing and protect their National treasures. Over here this lot in charge today will sell off Buckingham Palace to the Saudis. Or you can stay at the Hilton Windsor Castle in 2028.

[Ymx]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

Palace of Versail;les is the most visited Royal Palace in the world and the French did the right thing a couple of hundred years ago and cut the fuckers heads off, so no its got fuck all to do with the royal family.

So you’re undecided about pledging allegiance then

[Ymx]

I read somewhere rather than the citizens pledging allegiance to the King, it should be the bloody King pledging allegiance to us and country.

I thought it a fair point.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

I'll be in Paris. Maybe I'll visit the site of the Bastille.

[Insane_Homer]

Pledge of allegiance, fuck right off.

Who's brain dead fucking idea was this?
I doubt Charlie has become that tone death, in his new clothes, in a few short months. So who's blowing this smoke up his arse?

[Ymx]

Now with a poll added ^^^^^

[Tichtheid]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/featur ... to-the-uk/

This one suggests roughly £1.7 billion.

I can't help but be sceptical about the figures in that, just because of the the way they've chosen to present them. They start off by quoting the £1.7Bn figure, then call it near £2Bn, excuse me but a three hundred million quid shortfall is not near two billion. (or even 250 million shortfall in their second quote)

They also say it costs 1p per head of population per day, that is 67.33 million people times £0.01, or £673 300 per day, or £245M per year. They've been leading in how they've quoted the figures, I'm not questioning the veracity, I have no way of checking at this moment, but I'm never fully convinced when a case it put forward in such a way.

If the surplus of £1.5Bn to the UK economy is correct it is dwarfed by London's overall tourism expenditure, which pre-pandemic stood at around £15Bn https://www.statista.com/statistics/487 ... d-kingdom/

[Tichtheid]

I read somewhere rather than the citizens pledging allegiance to the King, it should be the bloody King pledging allegiance to us and country.

I thought it a fair point.

The military types on the bored will be better informed than me on this, but iirc those in the armed forces pledge allegiance to the monarch over everything, including parliament.

I don't think that's a good state of affairs.

[GogLais]

I was wondering about that.

Edit: re Blackmacs post on the revenue they bring.

How exactly do they calculate an amount attributed to the royal family? How do they say, if the royals weren’t around, these people wouldn’t have come. Just curious.

I mean most tourists go to London to see the buildings as they do other European cities. It’s not like they actually see the royals themselves. Just the palace itself with toy soldiers.

Palace of Versail;les is the most visited Royal Palace in the world and the French did the right thing a couple of hundred years ago and cut the fuckers heads off, so no its got fuck all to do with the royal family.

In fact you’d make more money if you could have all the ex-palaces and grounds open all year round.

[GogLais]

I read somewhere rather than the citizens pledging allegiance to the King, it should be the bloody King pledging allegiance to us and country.

I thought it a fair point.

The military types on the bored will be better informed than me on this, but iirc those in the armed forces pledge allegiance to the monarch over everything, including parliament.

I don't think that's a good state of affairs.

There is an argument that that is a good idea. Ultimately you don’t want a PM in charge of the army.

[Yeeb]

The hospitality industry perhaps pushed for a big celebration as they know people wil flock to the pubs and that for a long weekend, certainly now the weather is less crap. Pretty much every pub bar and restaurant round here was rammed Friday, Saturday , and yesterday - haven’t ventured out yet today though.

Plus the supermarkets flogging all their party food, jumbo packs of burgers and ribs, cake ingredients etc

People whinging about the £250m cost , are literally only looking at one side of the balance sheet, a good slice of that bill is overtime for the various forces who will be glad for a bigger pay packet which they will pay tax on. 250 mil is about what the state pays as state pension for one day.