Super Rugby Pacific 2023
- Guy Smiley
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Yeah, it’s fucking bad and getting worse as the game goes on.
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Boxing practise this week to prepare for the niggle.
And he looks to be getting back to his best, after being out for so long...All Blacks midfielder Jack Goodhue is reported set for a big money move to French Top 14 club Castres Olympique.
French rugby newspaper Midi Olympique has reported that Castres are set to “break the bank’’ to lure the 28-year-old Crusaders stalwart to the south of France.
The report said Castres, who finished ninth in the Top 14 this season, were prepared to make “a huge splash’’ by securing some key new signings.
Bugger.
With all his injuries he's probably thinking I better make hay while I am still able to...Gumboot wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:04 pmAnd he looks to be getting back to his best, after being out for so long...All Blacks midfielder Jack Goodhue is reported set for a big money move to French Top 14 club Castres Olympique.
French rugby newspaper Midi Olympique has reported that Castres are set to “break the bank’’ to lure the 28-year-old Crusaders stalwart to the south of France.
The report said Castres, who finished ninth in the Top 14 this season, were prepared to make “a huge splash’’ by securing some key new signings.
Bugger.
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There have been rumours about Goodhue going to France for a while. I didn't want to believe them.
Looking at the way NZR has been managed over his career span so far, I guess a fat pay day over uncertainty wins every time. Dammit.
Looking at the way NZR has been managed over his career span so far, I guess a fat pay day over uncertainty wins every time. Dammit.
Razor perfectly explains the concept of positive thinking with this quote post-match.
We haven't focused on who we haven't got, but on who we have got.
"It's a real mindset thing. I've really driven and made sure that the next person is ready, and taking that opportunity.
Given his injury record, he's got to go now while he can. He's older than I realized also. Still there's a major exodus this RWC cycle. A brave new world awaits Razor.Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:47 pm There have been rumours about Goodhue going to France for a while. I didn't want to believe them.
Looking at the way NZR has been managed over his career span so far, I guess a fat pay day over uncertainty wins every time. Dammit.
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Baby Blacks?Flockwitt wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:09 amGiven his injury record, he's got to go now while he can. He's older than I realized also. Still there's a major exodus this RWC cycle. A brave new world awaits Razor.Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:47 pm There have been rumours about Goodhue going to France for a while. I didn't want to believe them.
Looking at the way NZR has been managed over his career span so far, I guess a fat pay day over uncertainty wins every time. Dammit.
Razor’s Piglets
- Guy Smiley
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Like winning back the Bledisloe after Fozzie fucks that up as well?Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:39 am That'll be the one silver lining when we inevitably crash and burn in France - at least we have a lot to look forward to next year.
I'm amazed we still hold it after three years of his miserable reign.Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:40 amLike winning back the Bledisloe after Fozzie fucks that up as well?Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:39 am That'll be the one silver lining when we inevitably crash and burn in France - at least we have a lot to look forward to next year.
Reckon Covid probably saved his blushes... too harsh?
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I'll be very surprised if Fozzie and co deviate from their script and cast for the upcoming reprisal of the lacklustre series they've delivered so far.Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:03 am Any newbies you're expecting to hear named, Guy? Any surprise omissions?
I would love to see some unexpected selections and omissions but I reckon they'll stick with the favourites. He won't drop Beauden but he should, he will try and fit DMac and BB into the same team although he shouldn't. Roigard absolutely demands a spot but it wouldn't surprise me to see Christie there instead...
etc. There are others... Aumua over Coles, Tamaiti Williams will probably be named, Frizell and A Ioane can fuck off but won't.
I dunno mate.. maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. Maybe.
In a 36-man squad, and with an eye to the future, I'd be happy if they went with 4 hookers and 4 halfbacks. Never mind another odd-job lock/loosie or outside back, give me specialists please!
Taylor, Coles, Taukei'aho, Aumua, Nugget, Christie, Roigard, Fakatava.
Taylor, Coles, Taukei'aho, Aumua, Nugget, Christie, Roigard, Fakatava.
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Squad: Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Finlay Christie, Caleb Clarke, Dane Coles, Ethan de Groot, Braydon Ennor, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Samipeni Finau, Shannon Frizell, Rieko Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Will Jordan, Nepo Laulala, Anton Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Lord, Damian McKenzie, Dallas McLeod, Richie Mo'unga, Emoni Narawa, Fletcher Newell, Dalton Papalii, Brodie Retallick, Cam Roigard, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Codie Taylor, Mark Telea, Ofa Tuungafasi, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Tamaiti Williams.
Shaun Stevenson (injury cover).


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Here's some added depth to the ins and outs....
The All Blacks XV has also been named.
Props
Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
Hookers
Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)
Locks
Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Tasman)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)
Loose Forwards
Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)
Backs:
Halfbacks
Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)
First-five-eighths
Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)
Midfielders
Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Tasman)
Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)
Outside Backs
Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)
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We know Goodhue's relegation is not because he is heading offshore cause several players doing the same are included.Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:52 amYep... that's a head scratcher. As is Goodhue's relegation.
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Yeah... McLeod is a really smart player who brings a bit more than just athletic ability. If you'll forgive me mangling a phrase here, he plays faster than he runs.Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:15 am Have to say, I feel a lot better about McLeod being picked rather than Levi Aumua.
Clarke.Kiwias wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:26 am So who is the luckiest player in the squad?
Clarke, Coles, or Frizzell
Jordan is the only specialist fullback named, with Stevenson presumably his specialist injury reserve. Jordie can play 15 of course, but hopefully this is an indication that Jordan will be given a decent crack at fullback.
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But but but...Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:34 amClarke.Kiwias wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:26 am So who is the luckiest player in the squad?
Clarke, Coles, or Frizzell
Jordan is the only specialist fullback named, with Stevenson presumably his specialist injury reserve. Jordie can play 15 of course, but hopefully this is an indication that Jordan will be given a decent crack at fullback.
Beauden
No doubt.Guy Smiley wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:36 amBut but but...Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:34 amClarke.Kiwias wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:26 am So who is the luckiest player in the squad?
Clarke, Coles, or Frizzell
Jordan is the only specialist fullback named, with Stevenson presumably his specialist injury reserve. Jordie can play 15 of course, but hopefully this is an indication that Jordan will be given a decent crack at fullback.
Beauden
*sigh*
BB will be named at 15 and Jordan on the right wing in the first test. You heard it here first.Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:34 amClarke.Kiwias wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:26 am So who is the luckiest player in the squad?
Clarke, Coles, or Frizzell
Jordan is the only specialist fullback named, with Stevenson presumably his specialist injury reserve. Jordie can play 15 of course, but hopefully this is an indication that Jordan will be given a decent crack at fullback.
Gumboot
You are not the only one, mate. Foz lacks any vision and guts, with the predictable result that the quality of the ABs performances continues to decline.
Jordan showed how much more effective he is from fullback than the wing in the semi but that means fucking nothing to the fat stupid muppet.
You are not the only one, mate. Foz lacks any vision and guts, with the predictable result that the quality of the ABs performances continues to decline.
Jordan showed how much more effective he is from fullback than the wing in the semi but that means fucking nothing to the fat stupid muppet.
Posted this in the other place, but it still stands...
I'd dump:
Christie for Weber
Tuungafasi for Moody
Laulala (he has no feeling in his hands FFS) for anyone
Frizell for Flanders
Clarke for Stevenson
McLeod for Goodhue
Ennor for Proctor
I feel for Sotutu not making the back-up squad. he was on fire at the start and middle of the season and just looks burnt out.
McLeod looks like Scott Hamilton to me. A good decent Super player, but that's it.
I'd dump:
Christie for Weber
Tuungafasi for Moody
Laulala (he has no feeling in his hands FFS) for anyone
Frizell for Flanders
Clarke for Stevenson
McLeod for Goodhue
Ennor for Proctor
I feel for Sotutu not making the back-up squad. he was on fire at the start and middle of the season and just looks burnt out.
McLeod looks like Scott Hamilton to me. A good decent Super player, but that's it.