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spieth is nowhere.
3 down after 3 in the top game already.
3 down after 3 in the top game already.
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Was ridiculous to put Spieth out in foursomes.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:21 am spieth is nowhere.
3 down after 3 in the top game already.
Yeah, and Wyndham Clark is right there. US Open Champion, 3rd in the tour championship. Played one match out of three.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:44 amWas ridiculous to put Spieth out in foursomes.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:21 am spieth is nowhere.
3 down after 3 in the top game already.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
And pretty solid yesterday. I wonder if Johnson is being overly influenced by the big names. He doesn't come across as the biggest of characters.Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:49 amYeah, and Wyndham Clark is right there. US Open Champion, 3rd in the tour championship. Played one match out of three.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:44 amWas ridiculous to put Spieth out in foursomes.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:21 am spieth is nowhere.
3 down after 3 in the top game already.
Radar pointed out an odd thing yesterday, how Europe always have a pretty fresh selection of vice captains to get new ideas but the US just role out the same old faces, couples etc every year.
Was reading a Dan Rapaport article on his pal Fitzpatrick. We know Fitzpatrick records every shot but E Molinari has built a model that allows him to plug in how long/short and wide he was from his target giving him the most accurate stats for any player.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:57 amAnd pretty solid yesterday. I wonder if Johnson is being overly influenced by the big names. He doesn't come across as the biggest of characters.
Radar pointed out an odd thing yesterday, how Europe always have a pretty fresh selection of vice captains to get new ideas but the US just role out the same old faces, couples etc every year.
Apparently Molinari does stats using his models for a lot of the players.
9&7 fucking hell, that’s a whole big can of whoopass.
Biggest loss ever in a Ryder cup.
Hovland and Åberg six under through 11. Scheffler and Koepka seven over.
Biggest loss ever in a Ryder cup.
Hovland and Åberg six under through 11. Scheffler and Koepka seven over.
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And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Yeah I read that and that's why he was called in and those stats have had a big influence on how the course is set up. It's like pros verses amateurs in respect of the preparation and the US arrogance is astonishing. Surprised to hear some of the pre match comments from the yanks, bordering on disrespectful.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:08 amWas reading a Dan Rapaport article on his pal Fitzpatrick. We know Fitzpatrick records every shot but E Molinari has built a model that allows him to plug in how long/short and wide he was from his target giving him the most accurate stats for any player.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:57 amAnd pretty solid yesterday. I wonder if Johnson is being overly influenced by the big names. He doesn't come across as the biggest of characters.
Radar pointed out an odd thing yesterday, how Europe always have a pretty fresh selection of vice captains to get new ideas but the US just role out the same old faces, couples etc every year.
Apparently Molinari does stats using his models for a lot of the players.
Also apparently those stats have had a significant influence on some of Donald’s pairings as well.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:17 amYeah I read that and that's why he was called in and those stats have had a big influence on how the course is set up. It's like pros verses amateurs in respect of the preparation and the US arrogance is astonishing. Surprised to hear some of the pre match comments from the yanks, bordering on disrespectful.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:08 amWas reading a Dan Rapaport article on his pal Fitzpatrick. We know Fitzpatrick records every shot but E Molinari has built a model that allows him to plug in how long/short and wide he was from his target giving him the most accurate stats for any player.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:57 am
And pretty solid yesterday. I wonder if Johnson is being overly influenced by the big names. He doesn't come across as the biggest of characters.
Radar pointed out an odd thing yesterday, how Europe always have a pretty fresh selection of vice captains to get new ideas but the US just role out the same old faces, couples etc every year.
Apparently Molinari does stats using his models for a lot of the players.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Both teams are practically wearing the same shirts
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
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Ordinarily Europe would be looking at the lead, & then the US lineup, & saying how it's never enough when you go into the singles.
This year not so much I think.
This year not so much I think.
With Rahm, I also wonder if there is any impact on his mobility from club foot when wee that meant 5 sessions would hard on him.
World numbers 1 and 3 sitting out this afternoon. Wild.
7-1 in foursomes with no match going to 18 is a roasting.
Hovland and Åberg has only played something like 70 of 90 holes they collectively should have so should be fresh.
World numbers 1 and 3 sitting out this afternoon. Wild.
7-1 in foursomes with no match going to 18 is a roasting.
Hovland and Åberg has only played something like 70 of 90 holes they collectively should have so should be fresh.
Whereas I wouldn’t be surprised if the European guys would be prepared to pay to be a part of it.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
I am sure it was Mcilroy who made a comment along the lines that they all make more than enough money, and the Ryder Cup lets them play for pride.Punter15 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:07 amWhereas I wouldn’t be surprised if the European guys would be prepared to pay to be a part of it.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
He made similar comments about the amount of money they already make vis-a-vis LIV.
Clearly there are many US players that share that view, but I think the payment issue has come up before.
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They get paid to play in the Presidents Cup so not surprised it has popped up here.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:14 amI am it was Mcilroy who made a comment along the lines that they all make more than enough money, and the Ryder Cup lets them play for pride.Punter15 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:07 amWhereas I wouldn’t be surprised if the European guys would be prepared to pay to be a part of it.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
He made similar comments about the amount of money they already make vis-a-vis LIV.
Clearly there are many US players that share that view, but I think the payment issue has come up before.
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If it gets confirmed, it'll be interesting to see the reception these players get when they are back on tour.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:14 amI am it was Mcilroy who made a comment along the lines that they all make more than enough money, and the Ryder Cup lets them play for pride.Punter15 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:07 amWhereas I wouldn’t be surprised if the European guys would be prepared to pay to be a part of it.Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
He made similar comments about the amount of money they already make vis-a-vis LIV.
Clearly there are many US players that share that view, but I think the payment issue has come up before.
The Yanks might let a lot of things slide, but being that unpatriotic is something that a lot of their fans won't forgive, or forget, especially when it looks like it'll result in them getting humiliated.
Cantlay has been going on about this for a few years. By all accounts extremely money orientated. He is on a lot of the players committee and not only has he been close to moving to LIV he is well involved in the moves to amalgamate. Not a popular figure among his peers.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:24 amIf it gets confirmed, it'll be interesting to see the reception these players get when they are back on tour.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:14 amI am it was Mcilroy who made a comment along the lines that they all make more than enough money, and the Ryder Cup lets them play for pride.
He made similar comments about the amount of money they already make vis-a-vis LIV.
Clearly there are many US players that share that view, but I think the payment issue has come up before.
The Yanks might let a lot of things slide, but being that unpatriotic is something that a lot of their fans won't forgive, or forget, especially when it looks like it'll result in them getting humiliated.
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Lone voice shouting ‘Hats Off’ after Cantlay drove just thereBlackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Apparently the story is not that he wanted paid directly but wanted to wear his sponsors hat. When told no he claimed the USA hats didn't fit. When still told no, he decided not to wear anything.Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:40 pmLone voice shouting ‘Hats Off’ after Cantlay drove just thereBlackmac wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 am Interesting story emerging about a big fracture in the American camp led by Cantlay. He's still pissed off they aren't getting paid and is supported by a number of others, not surprisingly Koepka being one. Cantlay is refusing to wear the USA cap in protest. Speith and Thomas furious about it.
LaCava was way out of line. McIlroy asked him to move and they started jawing. He then went to line up his putt and LaCava went back at him again.
They got footage of what upset Rory now. The caddie is completely out of order, he walks up to Rory waving his hat and shouting in his face. Rory tells him to bugger off and he walks closer, still doing it. He then walks away slowly and he is clearly effing and blinding at the European team who are giving him stick. Needs to be disqualified from caddying in the last round. No way they should be getting involved like that.