assfly wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:59 am
Take it wasy lads. It's been good banter so far.
Both sides have got plenty of shit to throw at each other, but let's rather focus on our wonderful history and tradition and look forward to a great game.
assfly wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:15 am
Duane's last game as a Bok
Apart from Whitelock, are there any All Blacks where it's their last game?
A couple or leaving for Japan which will make them ineligable for the All Blacks until they return.
But I think Aaron Smith is also retiring after this match along with Whitelock.
Last All Blacks game...
Dane Coles (Though not picked for final)
Retallick
Whitelock
Frizell
Cane (I don't think he'll feature under Razor)
Smith
Mounga (3 years in Japan)
Beaudan Barrett
Nepo Laulala
Ofa
Leicester F
Ardie Savea (Japan for a sabbatical)
Blake wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:26 am
The last 2 weeks have been rough man. Productivity levels at record lows for me.
I expected a QF final against France/NZ so wasn't too fussed into the lead up to that match.
But getting through by the skin of our teeth got us into territoty I hadn't mentally and emotionally prepared myself for.
I've been so distracted with this euphoria, buildup, tension, euphoria, buildup cycle. I'm ready for this to be overwith man.
Just hope it ends with euphoria again and not with gutrenching disappointment.
Yes I also question how much emotional energy I have put into this. I've actually been neglecting so many other things for the last month.
In a weird way, I'll be glad when it's over.
Thankfully its season for us so pumping along. Still semi retired. Half day.
But some supporters took it way too far, as Bebo profiles were created by hundreds of All Blacks fans and he was sent personal abuse and vile death threats, with posts including mock obituaries of the official and calls for him to be "shot by a sniper".
You lot starts this shite, so try something new.
Pieter van Zyl was yesterday convicted of assaulting David McHugh, the Irish referee he put out of the Tri-Nations match between South Africa and New Zealand at King's Park on August 10.
The beefy Potchefstroom businessman's tackle when he invaded the pitch looked innocuous, but McHugh's shoulder was dislocated as stunned players tried frantically to separate the pair.
That was Van Zyl's defence against the original charge of assault with the intent to do grievous bodily harm. It was conducted not in open court but behind closed doors.
By the time Van Zyl appeared in front of the magistrate the charge was common assault. He pleaded guilty and was so found. Had the justice system's computers been up to scratch, and thus been able to establish whether Van Zyl had a criminal record, he would have been sentenced yesterday. Instead, all present will have to return on October 28.
Which, Van Zyl's beaming face hinted afterwards, would be no hardship for someone who seemed eager to grab more than his 15 minutes of fame.
"We're a little bit downhearted that it didn't end today, but I'll travel down 20 times if necessary to see justice done," Van Zyl, looking anything but downhearted, told the media, and confusing those who thought justice had already been done. "The public support I have received was overwhelming. I didn't expect it and it was heartening."
At which point Van Zyl's lawyer, Bertie Grobbelaar, glared at his client and drew a finger across his throat.
Blake wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:22 am
I don't know how I'm going to last 2 more days of this buildup.
My nerves are shot.
I'm having a fairly unproductive day at work.
Saturday is going to feel like a month.
The last 2 weeks have been rough man. Productivity levels at record lows for me.
I expected a QF final against France/NZ so wasn't too fussed into the lead up to that match.
But getting through by the skin of our teeth got us into territoty I hadn't mentally and emotionally prepared myself for.
I've been so distracted with this euphoria, buildup, tension, euphoria, buildup cycle. I'm ready for this to be overwith man.
Just hope it ends with euphoria again and not with gutrenching disappointment.
For the Boks maybe the biggest match since the 1995 final (hard to call, but it's in the shortlist). A lot of this team will not make it to the next RWC, RasNaber always said this match was the target and 2019 was a bonus. This is the match they aimed to peak in and what it has all been building towards.
RasNaber's planning looks good, they've built the most experienced team in Bok history, got to the final they aimed at, against an opponent they've improved the record against, and have a strategy in the 7/1 that is still a bit of question mark for opponents. There's no guarantee but it would been hard to do more.
Experienced Bok XVs:
2023 RWC final: 987 caps (most capped Bok starting XV, second place is the 2023 semi final side on 896 caps)
2019 RWC final: 694 caps
2015 RWC semi: 701 caps
2011 RWC quarter: 836 caps
2007 RWC final: 668 caps
RasNaber Boks v ABs:
W 2018, 36-34 Wellington
L 2018, 30-32 Loftus
D 2019, 16-16 Wellington
L 2019, 13-23 Yokohama
L 2021, 17-19 Townsville
W 2021, 31-29 Gold Coast
W 2022, 26-10 Nelspruit
L 2022, 23-35 Ellispark
L 2023, 20-35 Mount Smart
W 2023, 35-7 Twickenham
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_Os_ wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:45 am
Is this why your tipping has been so poor chief?
Sure, let me blame it on that
It's been pretty kak hey.
I've forgotten to make a couple of picks in time, but for the most part they've just been shit.
But the broadcast times of the games have been horrible for me, so I hardly watched any of the matches ourside the Springbok ones; maybe 2 or 3.
_Os_ wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:45 am
Is this why your tipping has been so poor chief?
Sure, let me blame it on that
It's been pretty kak hey.
I've forgotten to make a couple of picks in time, but for the most part they've just been shit.
But the broadcast times of the games have been horrible for me, so I hardly watched any of the matches ourside the Springbok ones; maybe 2 or 3.
21h00 kick offs suck balls. Especially when we had Sunday night games.
“This year’s Rugby World Cup Final will take place on Saturday between the rampant All Blacks and their traditional rivals, the Springboks.
The All Blacks stormed into yet another final with a try-fest as their star winger, and tournament-leading try scorer, ran in a hat trick of tries against their hapless opposition.
The Springboks, however, narrowly scraped through their rain-drenched semi-final, with a lone try ultimately deciding the result. Unconvincing at times throughout the tournament, the Springboks face a mighty challenge in trying to stop their much-favoured opponents this weekend.”
PS reading this you might think that they were talking about the RWC this year. This is about the 1995 Rugby World Cup…
Bizarre how history can repeat itself so accurately.
The big day arrived. It's going to be a busy day. This morning have to make 500 mince jaffels at the Church Bazaar, then it's rugby. Glad the URC started.
The South African fans are remarkably bullish about their chances, and the closer the game gets the more bullish they become. Something about the world is against us and we're most dangerous with our backs against the wall or some such crap.
Despite the emotional social media blitz from SA featuring white kids, I can't see anything having changed since last week: the ABs are on an upward trajectory and the Springboks downward.
The two teams have met three times in RWC knockout matches and the ABs lead that stat 2-1...
Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:38 am
Pinched this from a Boer on Stalkbook
“This year’s Rugby World Cup Final will take place on Saturday between the rampant All Blacks and their traditional rivals, the Springboks.
The All Blacks stormed into yet another final with a try-fest as their star winger, and tournament-leading try scorer, ran in a hat trick of tries against their hapless opposition.
The Springboks, however, narrowly scraped through their rain-drenched semi-final, with a lone try ultimately deciding the result. Unconvincing at times throughout the tournament, the Springboks face a mighty challenge in trying to stop their much-favoured opponents this weekend.”
PS reading this you might think that they were talking about the RWC this year. This is about the 1995 Rugby World Cup…
Bizarre how history can repeat itself so accurately.
History is only repeating on some aspects. Other aspects where history is not repeating are; neutral venue, no Nelson Mandela, corruption largely erased from the game, better drug testing, and better hotel kitchen security.
Hands up all the Kiwis who are staying up all night to watch us play Australia...
Once upon a time, rugby and cricket had distinct "seasons". It's a bit weird that we're at the point where the sports' world cups now collide every four years.
Grandpa wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:43 am
Last All Blacks game...
Dane Coles (Though not picked for final) Retallick
Whitelock
Frizell Cane (I don't think he'll feature under Razor) Smith
Mounga (3 years in Japan) Beaudan Barrett
Nepo Laulala
Ofa
Leicester F
Ardie Savea (Japan for a sabbatical)
So a new start next year...
Farewell to the Class of 2012
Also: Julian Savea, Luke Romano, Charlie Faumuina and Tawera Kerr-Barlow.
Gumboot wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:08 am
Hands up all the Kiwis who are staying up all night to watch us play Australia...
Once upon a time, rugby and cricket had distinct "seasons". It's a bit weird that we're at the point where the sports' world cups now collide every four years.
Nah, We have a mental block against those kants - just hope we don't get them in the semis (assuming we make it)
Muttonbird wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:19 am
The South African fans are remarkably bullish about their chances, and the closer the game gets the more bullish they become. Something about the world is against us and we're most dangerous with our backs against the wall or some such crap.
Despite the emotional social media blitz from SA featuring white kids, I can't see anything having changed since last week: the ABs are on an upward trajectory and the Springboks downward.
The two teams have met three times in RWC knockout matches and the ABs lead that stat 2-1...
Like the confidence. But what is your answer to the masterplan?
Looking through the ages of the Bok players, there's quite a few probably not going to the next RWC but they still have some gas in the tank. Duane is the one that is definitely on his last match for the Boks, reminds me of Os before the 2007 final, Os was a mobile tackling/carrying human wrecking ball for one last time and produced his match of the tournament.