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Did they not have a pen in front of the posts anyway or was it out wide.
I enjoyed that game though!
I enjoyed that game though!
Two shots to win the game which they really had to win.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:33 pm Did they not have a pen in front of the posts anyway or was it out wide.
I enjoyed that game though!
Edinburgh are still a bit away from where they need to be really. Some really good things and some really poor.
Vellacott was a step up on Shiel when he came on and was a big reason Edinburgh won that.
Vellacott was a step up on Shiel when he came on and was a big reason Edinburgh won that.
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I thought that was by far our best performance of the season, we actually looked like a pro rugby team for the first time.
A new coach brings in a whole new strategy, it takes time to get up and running - see Glasgow last year. Connacht are a very very good side this year, that is a good win for us.
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"Mess" was harsh and changed my original post.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:38 pm
I thought that was by far our best performance of the season, we actually looked like a pro rugby team for the first time.
A new coach brings in a whole new strategy, it takes time to get up and running - see Glasgow last year. Connacht are a very very good side this year, that is a good win for us.
The commentators said there was advantage but I never heard Whitehouse say anything or see him put his arm out.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:33 pm Did they not have a pen in front of the posts anyway or was it out wide.
I enjoyed that game though!
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Everitt as good as said exactly this
The good thing about that is that it's something you can address on the back pitches on Monday, if he's seen that as an issue (and it is) we should be working on it next week
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:45 pmOr just Munster at their pragmatic best; if you aren't in the right part of pitch, kick it somewhere better.
He's not Finn, he's not Kinghorn at ten, but he could well be the right ten that Edinburgh need for the next few years, with the youngster Scott looking to be the apprentice
in theory, by some distanceKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:37 pmAgreed. Price potentially a huge addition to this squad. Price Healy might be the best Edinburgh halfback partnership in memory (at least on paper).
Simian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:11 pmin theory, by some distanceKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:37 pmAgreed. Price potentially a huge addition to this squad. Price Healy might be the best Edinburgh halfback partnership in memory (at least on paper).
Blair and Greeg got us to a Heineken Cup semi final, so I'll hang fire for now.
you've a quality pack and a quality back three. and that's the case even with injuries. BH and AP could really make you a great side, imo. they're the 9/10 you've been missing, imoTichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:54 pmfishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:45 pmOr just Munster at their pragmatic best; if you aren't in the right part of pitch, kick it somewhere better.
He's not Finn, he's not Kinghorn at ten, but he could well be the right ten that Edinburgh need for the next few years, with the youngster Scott looking to be the apprentice
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Simian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:14 pmyou've a quality pack and a quality back three. and that's the case even with injuries. BH and AP could really make you a great side, imo. they're the 9/10 you've been missing, imoTichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:54 pmfishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:45 pm
Or just Munster at their pragmatic best; if you aren't in the right part of pitch, kick it somewhere better.
He's not Finn, he's not Kinghorn at ten, but he could well be the right ten that Edinburgh need for the next few years, with the youngster Scott looking to be the apprentice
My one concern is at 12 - I really like Lang but he is made of glass, when Dean is on form he is terrific. Currie is a 13 who is playing 12 atm. - maybe there is a chance for Cammy Scott to make a mark there
I do take your point that your centres aren't gonna set the world on fireTichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:17 pm
My one concern is at 12 - I really like Lang but he is made of glass, when Dean is on form he is terrific. Currie is a 13 who is playing 12 atm. - maybe there is a chance for Cammy Scott to make a mark there
but they're competent (and I hundred percent agree that Dean on form is a bit of a hidden diamond) at worst and can be very good
my view is your 9/10 hasn't worked for donkeys years and you've now (and I am salty about this!) got some class on your books there now
wish we had a ten who could drop a goal to win a tough game, for example! (trite, I know)
Simian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:23 pmI do take your point that your centres aren't gonna set the world on fire
but they're competent (and I hundred percent agree that Dean on form is a bit of a hidden diamond) at worst and can be very good
my view is your 9/10 hasn't worked for donkeys years and you've now (and I am salty about this!) got some class on your books there now
wish we had a ten who could drop a goal to win a tough game, for example! (trite, I know)
You've got Duncy Weir, he dropped a goal for Embra to a win in Ulster, thought to be fair it was Bill Mata who won that match almost on his own.
In a season where I suspect away wins are probably going to be pretty rare , leaving Swansea with 5 points feels pretty damn good
Not a vintage performance by any means, but we are proving to be a real 80 minute team, something that we lost under Danny Wilson.
Great to see our way support out singing the welsh crowd
Dobie didn't have a great game, but Kennedy had probably his best 40 minutes in a Glasgow shirt, really controlled the game ( just as well with Ali P off to the dark side )
Venter had his best game for the warriors ( stupid push aside ), and imho probably deserved MOTM over Johnny - though hard to take it a way from the Hooker who scores more than Linda Lovelace.
Rowe pretty anonymous again tonight, probably not the ideal game for him , but he needs to get more involved , and showcase what he can do when he does get involved.
Good result for the East Coast tonight as well , Connacht are a well drilled team , and will certainly finish top eight.
Not a vintage performance by any means, but we are proving to be a real 80 minute team, something that we lost under Danny Wilson.
Great to see our way support out singing the welsh crowd
Dobie didn't have a great game, but Kennedy had probably his best 40 minutes in a Glasgow shirt, really controlled the game ( just as well with Ali P off to the dark side )
Venter had his best game for the warriors ( stupid push aside ), and imho probably deserved MOTM over Johnny - though hard to take it a way from the Hooker who scores more than Linda Lovelace.
Rowe pretty anonymous again tonight, probably not the ideal game for him , but he needs to get more involved , and showcase what he can do when he does get involved.
Good result for the East Coast tonight as well , Connacht are a well drilled team , and will certainly finish top eight.
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That really was a nonsense yellow card for Schoeman. I don’t think he knew anything much about it until the Connacht player collided with him. What was worse was that the ref described it as a red card mitigated down to yellow because of Ashman’s tackle! How can someone flying into your head result in you getting a red card?
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Just finished watching it back. Great game of rugby TBF. A lot of good in the Embra performance. I thought Kinghorn had a really good game - only one error that was actually his own fault. Whole team did well to grind out the gritty win.
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And one for Scotland to win in Italy.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:30 pmSimian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:23 pmI do take your point that your centres aren't gonna set the world on fire
but they're competent (and I hundred percent agree that Dean on form is a bit of a hidden diamond) at worst and can be very good
my view is your 9/10 hasn't worked for donkeys years and you've now (and I am salty about this!) got some class on your books there now
wish we had a ten who could drop a goal to win a tough game, for example! (trite, I know)
You've got Duncy Weir, he dropped a goal for Embra to a win in Ulster, thought to be fair it was Bill Mata who won that match almost on his own.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
He did, I saw him call it from the terracing.robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:45 pmThe commentators said there was advantage but I never heard Whitehouse say anything or see him put his arm out.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:33 pm Did they not have a pen in front of the posts anyway or was it out wide.
I enjoyed that game though!
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I’m happy with the win. If there was a clear opportunity to win the game, win the game, don’t roll the dice on five points when you might get two. The penalty was out wide and Healy had already missed a couple.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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On reflection I agree with this. You also play the ref and since the ref was Whitehouse you have to assume he will do something weird like decide advantage is over despite no meters gained. They had two chances by taking the dg, it’s a good decision.
Edinburgh have blown too many chances too many times over the years. I jokingly said to my son that Edinburgh were Munster in disguise. But it is that kind of 'don't be too clever for your own good' pragmatism that has helped bring them success over the years.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:26 amOn reflection I agree with this. You also play the ref and since the ref was Whitehouse you have to assume he will do something weird like decide advantage is over despite no meters gained. They had two chances by taking the dg, it’s a good decision.
One of the happiest moments of my life. He’ll always be a hero to me for that kick - even told him so when I bumped into him a couple of years ago!Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:08 amAnd one for Scotland to win in Italy.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:30 pmSimian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:23 pm
I do take your point that your centres aren't gonna set the world on fire
but they're competent (and I hundred percent agree that Dean on form is a bit of a hidden diamond) at worst and can be very good
my view is your 9/10 hasn't worked for donkeys years and you've now (and I am salty about this!) got some class on your books there now
wish we had a ten who could drop a goal to win a tough game, for example! (trite, I know)
You've got Duncy Weir, he dropped a goal for Embra to a win in Ulster, thought to be fair it was Bill Mata who won that match almost on his own.
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Much my feeling too. It’s pragmatic, head-switched-on rugby. The priority is the win. Secure the win first. It’s what good sides do. And you can’t help feeling that previous Edinburgh teams wouldn’t have done it.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:04 amEdinburgh have blown too many chances too many times over the years. I jokingly said to my son that Edinburgh were Munster in disguise. But it is that kind of 'don't be too clever for your own good' pragmatism that has helped bring them success over the years.KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:26 amOn reflection I agree with this. You also play the ref and since the ref was Whitehouse you have to assume he will do something weird like decide advantage is over despite no meters gained. They had two chances by taking the dg, it’s a good decision.
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
My first visit to the new ground .... we do not come down from Inverness that often but had been to .Watsons v Highland - a game to forget for us ... too many injuries and could not get out if our own 22 for the second half. But well done to the quiche eaters.
The Edinburgh gig really did seem like a club atmosphere. Most wearing something to do with Edinburgh. Lots of people meeting friends. Lots of ... I love you Duhan from mid aged women.
We were right behind Connaught bench and is was great to see the interaction of the H2O team and the coaching staff. Was even better when the officials told them to stop coming on to the pitch. They really did seem well drilled and we certainly up for it. They were even standing up when near scoring and realised they they were in our view, apologised and sat down. Good play.
As for Embra, Shiel looked mighty pissed off when leaving the field. Perhaps his last action for a while. Velacot really did set the place alight. Gilchrist really put himself about and had a superb clear out right in front of us. Score could have been very different if Kinghorn and VDM had not lost their footing early in first half as it looked like tries both times.
Will definitely go back as we also had 2 nights in The Diggers.
The Edinburgh gig really did seem like a club atmosphere. Most wearing something to do with Edinburgh. Lots of people meeting friends. Lots of ... I love you Duhan from mid aged women.
We were right behind Connaught bench and is was great to see the interaction of the H2O team and the coaching staff. Was even better when the officials told them to stop coming on to the pitch. They really did seem well drilled and we certainly up for it. They were even standing up when near scoring and realised they they were in our view, apologised and sat down. Good play.
As for Embra, Shiel looked mighty pissed off when leaving the field. Perhaps his last action for a while. Velacot really did set the place alight. Gilchrist really put himself about and had a superb clear out right in front of us. Score could have been very different if Kinghorn and VDM had not lost their footing early in first half as it looked like tries both times.
Will definitely go back as we also had 2 nights in The Diggers.
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Yeah, it’s got the potential to be a cracking little stadium. Hope that the SRU can slowly develop it into permanent stands, first option is to build the main stand properly with hospitality boxes etc. Then hopefully we’ll need to make some of the others slightly bigger. Good crowd of 6,700 last night as well, we would never have got that many vs Connacht in the main bowl.vball wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:04 am My first visit to the new ground .... we do not come down from Inverness that often but had been to .Watsons v Highland - a game to forget for us ... too many injuries and could not get out if our own 22 for the second half. But well done to the quiche eaters.
The Edinburgh gig really did seem like a club atmosphere. Most wearing something to do with Edinburgh. Lots of people meeting friends. Lots of ... I love you Duhan from mid aged women.
We were right behind Connaught bench and is was great to see the interaction of the H2O team and the coaching staff. Was even better when the officials told them to stop coming on to the pitch. They really did seem well drilled and we certainly up for it. They were even standing up when near scoring and realised they they were in our view, apologised and sat down. Good play.
As for Embra, Shiel looked mighty pissed off when leaving the field. Perhaps his last action for a while. Velacot really did set the place alight. Gilchrist really put himself about and had a superb clear out right in front of us. Score could have been very different if Kinghorn and VDM had not lost their footing early in first half as it looked like tries both times.
Will definitely go back as we also had 2 nights in The Diggers.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Yeah, on reflection it was the right thing to do, get the win.
I’m glad vball had a good time at the game, I’m looking forward to my first visit to the stadium.
And if there were, they'd barely be noticed.Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:48 amYeah, it’s got the potential to be a cracking little stadium. Hope that the SRU can slowly develop it into permanent stands, first option is to build the main stand properly with hospitality boxes etc. Then hopefully we’ll need to make some of the others slightly bigger. Good crowd of 6,700 last night as well, we would never have got that many vs Connacht in the main bowl.
I confess I am surprised how much a difference the new stadium has made. Right from the start we were meeting old chums of mine or my kids we'd not seen around games for years. Many people decided to give it a chance then stuck around, and it has become so much more of a social thing than the big stadium ever was so that you can have a decent night regardless of what's on the pitch.
There are many better stadia, but this is a big step forward.
I'd always suspected that season ticket holders was counted regardless of if they were there. I was not there last night, but got an email today thanking me for coming. So I suspect my son and I are part of the 6.7k despite not turning up.
Yeah, it’s pretty much standard practice to publish tickets sold nowadays in all sports. But it was pretty full last night.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:05 pmAnd if there were, they'd barely be noticed.Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:48 amYeah, it’s got the potential to be a cracking little stadium. Hope that the SRU can slowly develop it into permanent stands, first option is to build the main stand properly with hospitality boxes etc. Then hopefully we’ll need to make some of the others slightly bigger. Good crowd of 6,700 last night as well, we would never have got that many vs Connacht in the main bowl.
I confess I am surprised how much a difference the new stadium has made. Right from the start we were meeting old chums of mine or my kids we'd not seen around games for years. Many people decided to give it a chance then stuck around, and it has become so much more of a social thing than the big stadium ever was so that you can have a decent night regardless of what's on the pitch.
There are many better stadia, but this is a big step forward.
I'd always suspected that season ticket holders was counted regardless of if they were there. I was not there last night, but got an email today thanking me for coming. So I suspect my son and I are part of the 6.7k despite not turning up.
The new stadium coincided with people finally getting a bit of noise going, the Ed-in-bru chant for instance, and that’s then been emphasises because people are closer together so it grows.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:48 amYeah, it’s got the potential to be a cracking little stadium. Hope that the SRU can slowly develop it into permanent stands, first option is to build the main stand properly with hospitality boxes etc. Then hopefully we’ll need to make some of the others slightly bigger. Good crowd of 6,700 last night as well, we would never have got that many vs Connacht in the main bowl.vball wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:04 am My first visit to the new ground .... we do not come down from Inverness that often but had been to .Watsons v Highland - a game to forget for us ... too many injuries and could not get out if our own 22 for the second half. But well done to the quiche eaters.
The Edinburgh gig really did seem like a club atmosphere. Most wearing something to do with Edinburgh. Lots of people meeting friends. Lots of ... I love you Duhan from mid aged women.
We were right behind Connaught bench and is was great to see the interaction of the H2O team and the coaching staff. Was even better when the officials told them to stop coming on to the pitch. They really did seem well drilled and we certainly up for it. They were even standing up when near scoring and realised they they were in our view, apologised and sat down. Good play.
As for Embra, Shiel looked mighty pissed off when leaving the field. Perhaps his last action for a while. Velacot really did set the place alight. Gilchrist really put himself about and had a superb clear out right in front of us. Score could have been very different if Kinghorn and VDM had not lost their footing early in first half as it looked like tries both times.
Will definitely go back as we also had 2 nights in The Diggers.
They have to grow organically, but they've got off to a good start the last couple of years.
Supporting Connacht a decade ago meant freezing your bollox off standing at the side of the dog track, with a few other die hards, but they've added temporary stand after temporary stand, & the clan terrace as the team performance improved so did the support, & when we won the Pro12, the IRFU opened up the coffers & committed to redevelopment.
https://www.connachtrugby.ie/the-sports ... plans/327/
7,000 seats, & they can get rid of all the temporary stands they're paying rent on, & improve the experience for the supporters.