The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

[KingBlairhorn]

I feel a bit for the u20s here, 19-0 feels a bit harsh, they’ve played okay. France ruthless though and their backs are electric, Scotland have nobody with that kind of verve.

Night and day between these u20s and the last few years IMO. That second half was good and a little bit more execution (4 kicked dead by Coates?) it might have been a one score game. The scrum was broadly good against the French monsters and the maul defence was excellent at times.

Perhaps things aren’t quite as bad as they seem.

Maybe, just maybe, the Super 6 is actually working?

Indeed. Further, maybe playing the U20s as a team in S6, despite them regularly getting leathered, was actually a learning experience for them.

The offside line breathlessly putting the boot in any opportunity regardless though.

[Tichtheid]

The offside line breathlessly putting the boot in any opportunity regardless though.

They really are idiotic ringpeices at TOL, both in the their editorial stance and the-big-fish-in-the-tiny-wee-puddle club reps who comment below the line on there. All they are interested in is their own club's status, they are dinosaurs.

From the, what three seasons of Super 6 now, is it? One with a futures team in it and we finally have a pack that can go toe to toe with the world champions, who are all fully professional. Anyone calling for an end to this rather than further investment is not looking at the bigger picture.

[Jock42]

The offside line breathlessly putting the boot in any opportunity regardless though.

They really are idiotic ringpeices at TOL, both in the their editorial stance and the-big-fish-in-the-tiny-wee-puddle club reps who comment below the line on there. All they are interested in is their own club's status, they are dinosaurs.

From the, what three seasons of Super 6 now, is it? One with a futures team in it and we finally have a pack that can go toe to toe with the world champions, who are all fully professional. Anyone calling for an end to this rather than further investment is not looking at the bigger picture.

I don't understand why anyone still reads their stuff tbh.

[KingBlairhorn]

The offside line breathlessly putting the boot in any opportunity regardless though.

They really are idiotic ringpeices at TOL, both in the their editorial stance and the-big-fish-in-the-tiny-wee-puddle club reps who comment below the line on there. All they are interested in is their own club's status, they are dinosaurs.

From the, what three seasons of Super 6 now, is it? One with a futures team in it and we finally have a pack that can go toe to toe with the world champions, who are all fully professional. Anyone calling for an end to this rather than further investment is not looking at the bigger picture.

Yeah, I agree with every word of that.

[Slick]

A mate has a couple of spare tickets if anyone is looking

[Biffer]

The offside line breathlessly putting the boot in any opportunity regardless though.

They really are idiotic ringpeices at TOL, both in the their editorial stance and the-big-fish-in-the-tiny-wee-puddle club reps who comment below the line on there. All they are interested in is their own club's status, they are dinosaurs.

From the, what three seasons of Super 6 now, is it? One with a futures team in it and we finally have a pack that can go toe to toe with the world champions, who are all fully professional. Anyone calling for an end to this rather than further investment is not looking at the bigger picture.

Yeah, I agree with every word of that.

TOL might as well have WAAAH WE WISH IT WAS STILL 1985 written across every page.

[KingBlairhorn]

They really are idiotic ringpeices at TOL, both in the their editorial stance and the-big-fish-in-the-tiny-wee-puddle club reps who comment below the line on there. All they are interested in is their own club's status, they are dinosaurs.

From the, what three seasons of Super 6 now, is it? One with a futures team in it and we finally have a pack that can go toe to toe with the world champions, who are all fully professional. Anyone calling for an end to this rather than further investment is not looking at the bigger picture.

Yeah, I agree with every word of that.

TOL might as well have WAAAH WE WISH IT WAS STILL 1985 written across every page.

It’s frustrating because they actually cover youth and super6 rugby very well. If they could leave their blazer politics at the door they would be a credit to Scottish rugby, but it is absolutely clear they can’t.

[KingBlairhorn]

I was just reminded of the France u20 game 2 years ago which finished with a similar score (17-30)…except France had 2 red cards, one of which was after 12 minutes. This side really is leaps and bounds ahead of that one.

[Jock42]

Steyn out, Rowe to wing, Paterson to FB.

Big ask for a lad that's played about 5 pro games. Hope he goes well. Enjoy all, I'm working so will catch up tonight. Mon the Jocks.

[KingBlairhorn]

Steyn out, Rowe to wing, Paterson to FB.

Big ask for a lad that's played about 5 pro games. Hope he goes well. Enjoy all, I'm working so will catch up tonight. Mon the Jocks.

Eek.

About a month ago I was thinking we were going into the tournament relatively injury free. It’s been a tough few weeks.

[Big D]

Massive call to put the young lad at full back rather than Hutchinson or even Jones to back 3 and bringing in a centre.

[Big D]

Small thing but hopefully they've been able to sort his family out to get them at the game. Big moments in his life and would be good if his family could get there.

Edit: apparently they have.

[Big D]

Surely they've had Paterson running at full back at times this week given Steyns wife was pregnant?

[KingBlairhorn]

Relatively happy with that but disappointed we didn’t take 3 at the end there. A Hail Mary on a scrum with the clock going dead isn’t smart IMO.

[charltom]

Relatively happy with that but disappointed we didn’t take 3 at the end there. A Hail Mary on a scrum with the clock going dead isn’t smart IMO.

They went for that because of the man advantage. Otherwise definitely would have taken the points, as they just did.

[Begbie]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

[fishfoodie]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

[Big D]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

Correct but thoughtful analysis isn't for the first 30min after the game to be fair.

[Blackmac]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

Yeah, like all other nations would be ignoring it. It was the most crucial decision in the game and they totally fucked is.

[Begbie]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

It was a game defining moment, so I think I will focus on it for.a while, but thanks for your input.

[KingBlairhorn]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

Yeah, like all other nations would be ignoring it. It was the most crucial decision in the game and they totally fucked is.

That and the bizarre decisions to a) ignore the knock on prior to the France try and b) not check the pass was forward (I don’t think it was though tbh)

[Big D]

Right initial thoughts except that last decision:

+ Darge and Dempsey were good.
+ Christie had a good game
+ Schoeman was visible in loose and scrummaged well especially when they loaded up his side.
+ Russell mostly kicked well from hand and played to the game plan well.
+ Offfensive and defensive line outs were much better.
+ Bar one bad missed tackles by Rowe in the 1st half the back 3 were good. Rowe would be my back up wing now.

- The game plan.
- Lack of ambition at times.
- Lack of precision in the 1st half.
- Both Fagersons weren't at the races for me. Jnr carried pretty meekly as seen by the kick off directly before their 1st try.
- The centres were out of synch with each other especially on defence.
------ Ball presentation at rucks is consistently awful.

[Begbie]

Pinched off Twitter, fuckin bizarre:
TMO audio. 82.55, TMO states “there is the ball on the ground”. Berry then says, “So ball initially on foot, but then grounded -so no I need to change my onfield decision to try?” TMO responds “yes”. Only to then ‘lose sight of angle’

[fishfoodie]

Berry being useless and dodgy TMO aside, well done Harry Patterson. Didn't do much wrong.

You can't focus on the last minute, & ignore the lack of precision in the rest of the half, when you could have gaped France

Correct but thoughtful analysis isn't for the first 30min after the game to be fair.

True !

It's for hunting the neighbours cat so you can drop kick them across the hedge for shitting in your garden

[Yr Alban]

Pinched off Twitter, fuckin bizarre:
TMO audio. 82.55, TMO states “there is the ball on the ground”. Berry then says, “So ball initially on foot, but then grounded -so no I need to change my onfield decision to try?” TMO responds “yes”. Only to then ‘lose sight of angle’

I am at work and could only watch score updates. I am baffled and infuriated at the fact that my Twitter and FB feeds are full of pictures of a ball which is clearly on the fecking ground.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

I stuck between seething and laughing at the sheer Scottishness of being denied a win.

Still, I was expecting France to use their bulk and bully us out of the game, so the fact we were winning until the 70th minute was a better performance than I thought likely.

Turner was good today, I thought, carried well and hit the line at speed. Paterson was excellent.

Did the front row play the full 80? (Apart from Turner's HIA?)

[KingBlairhorn]

Right initial thoughts except that last decision:

+ Darge and Dempsey were good.
+ Christie had a good camel
+ Schoeman was visible in loose and scrummaged well especially when they loaded up his side.
+ Russell mostly kicked well from hand and played to the game plan well.
+ Offfensive and defensive line outs were much better.
+ Bar one bad missed tackles by Rowe in the 1st half the back 3 were good. Rowe would be my back up wing now.

- The game plan.
- Lack of ambition at times.
- Lack of precision in the 1st half.
- Both Fagersons weren't at the races for me. Jnr carried pretty meekly as seen by the kick off directly before their 1st try.
- The centres were out of synch with each other especially on defence.
------ Ball presentation at rucks is consistently awful.

Christie was good u til he took the hump.

[Big D]

I stuck between seething and laughing at the sheer Scottishness of being denied a win.

Still, I was expecting France to use their bulk and bully us out of the game, so the fact we were winning until the 70th minute was a better performance than I thought likely.

Turner was good today, I thought, carried well and hit the line at speed. Paterson was excellent.

Did the front row play the full 80? (Apart from Turner's HIA?)

Schoeman came off near the end.

[Tichtheid]

So far the only part of the game I've seen is the TMO review at the very end when I was sitting in a cafe.

How did Harry Paterson get on?

[KingBlairhorn]

So far the only part of the game I've seen is the TMO review at the very end when I was sitting in a cafe.

How did Harry Paterson get on?

Harry was excellent. Rock solid under the high ball and played a huge part in the try.

[Tichtheid]

So far the only part of the game I've seen is the TMO review at the very end when I was sitting in a cafe.

How did Harry Paterson get on?

Harry was excellent. Rock solid under the high ball and played a huge part in the try.

I'm happy for the lad

and for Edinburgh too

[KingBlairhorn]

So far the only part of the game I've seen is the TMO review at the very end when I was sitting in a cafe.

How did Harry Paterson get on?

Harry was excellent. Rock solid under the high ball and played a huge part in the try.

I'm happy for the lad

and for Edinburgh too

I want to see much more of Harry but also some of the U20 players before the end of the season. Callum Norrie needs gametime at Glasgow, as does McConnell for Edinburgh and several others too.

[Tichtheid]

Harry was excellent. Rock solid under the high ball and played a huge part in the try.

I'm happy for the lad

and for Edinburgh too

I want to see much more of Harry but also some of the U20 players before the end of the season. Callum Norrie needs gametime at Glasgow, as does McConnell for Edinburgh and several others too.

Agreed, Glasgow have signed another NSQ tighthead for next season, at some point our clubs are going to have to give these guys like Norrie and Blythe-Rafferty time on the park, it's the only way a prop will be developed. I know they re very young still, especially OB-L, but we need to get them playing.

Tom Currie is highly thought of in the back row, he was injured very early on last week, but Douglas and McConnell look the real deal for us and Morris is going to be good for Glasgow too.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

Scotland should be expecting a win against that England side

[Big D]

https://x.com/Sports_EmmaD/status/17563 ... 94381?s=20


Clearly grounded.

[weegie01]

Three more years of Townsend. A damp squid RWC then this. I think he has hit his ceiling and his deficiencies as a coach are being hidden by decent players who are performing above some previous generations despite rather than because of his coaching.

I can't see how we move forward with him after all this time.

[KingBlairhorn]

Three more years of Townsend. A damp squid RWC then this. I think he has hit his ceiling and his deficiencies as a coach are being hidden by decent players who are performing above some previous generations despite rather than because of his coaching.

I can't see how we move forward with him after all this time.

Damp squid is by far my favourite malapropism

[Slick]

Firstly, bloody well done Harry Paterson. Was a bit of a shock when he was introduced before KO but he couldn’t have had a much better debut. And all that with 4 hours notice! Brilliant.

I’ve seen none of the game on TV. We should have been out of sight, we were so much better than them. I thought Rowe was going to finish that run off when he started on it.

Darge seemed everywhere. Tuipolotu also seemed to be involved all the time and I thought Finn had another very good game..

It’s very frustrating.

Also, had an absolute fucking cock in front of us who was awful throughout. He left with 5 minutes to go and his mates apologised but, as I told them, they should have controlled him way before. So sick of the cunts that sit in front of us, going to make a complaint

[Slick]

Also, if we don’t absolutely stuff that utterly shite England team I’m done for a while

[Slick]

Actually mean to say, it was a bit odd at the end in the stadium. You couldn’t really pick out what was being shown on the big screen so lots of pantomime ooo’ing and ahh’ing but no one seemed to really know what was going on.

After the whistle there was just a resigned sign, no real anger or frustration. Then as we walked up the road it started to spread that we were robbed