2024 Springbokke

[assfly]

The state of that jersey

[Blake]

The IPL cricket show the way for branding. Their SA success is unbelievable.

Ja, no. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

While the IPL has been undeniably successful, I think it has been in spite of branding and not because of it. The branding is, and always has been, terrible.

I mean Mumbai Indians Cape Town? WTF is that even?

It's a shitshow of changing teams and non-nonsensical names. Knight Riders? Royals? Kings? Kings XI Punjab? Super Kings? Come now. It's a mess.

[_Os_]

Agree with Sardy, Sharks branding is the best. No change necessary. Clueless foreigners will have to use Google if they wish to know where the team is located, if they're smarter than an Aussie they will do so, if not they will spend 3 decades saying they don't know where the SA teams are from.

[Blake]

The state of that jersey

It was a bit of a disaster, hey?

But it was only topped by the troll move succeeding it, blending all the colours into one solid black jersey and annoying you Sharks fans who at the time played with your iconic black & white in the Currie Cup and a terribly grey jersey in Super Rugby!

That black, slowly transitioned to navy blue, and then navy and blue hoops...into the current jersey that is the closest to a WP jersey the Stormers have ever been. It's been quite a journey over the last 26 years.

[Blake]

Agree with Sardy, Sharks branding is the best. No change necessary. Clueless foreigners will have to use Google if they wish to know where the team is located, if they're smarter than an Aussie they will do so, if not they will spend 3 decades saying they don't know where the SA teams are from.

You mean you are not located in Hollywoodbets, South Africa?

As an aside, if you ever wanted to laugh at what a meatheat Duhan vd Merwe is, when asked to point out where Durban was on a map, he pointed at Bloemfontein. According to some people I know who went to school with him, it was known from an early age if he didn't make a career out of rugby, he'd he screwed.

[Sards]

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[Sards]

Agree with Sardy, Sharks branding is the best. No change necessary. Clueless foreigners will have to use Google if they wish to know where the team is located, if they're smarter than an Aussie they will do so, if not they will spend 3 decades saying they don't know where the SA teams are from.

You mean you are not located in Hollywoodbets, South Africa?

As an aside, if you ever wanted to laugh at what a meatheat Duhan vd Merwe is, when asked to point out where Durban was on a map, he pointed at Bloemfontein. According to some people I know who went to school with him, it was known from an early age if he didn't make a career out of rugby, he'd he screwed.

Vok me but you Stomps like to cast shadows on other teams players.

Maybe he was messing about the Sharks poaching Free state players and it went over your head

[Sards]

The IPL cricket show the way for branding. Their SA success is unbelievable.

Ja, no. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

While the IPL has been undeniably successful, I think it has been in spite of branding and not because of it. The branding is, and always has been, terrible.

I mean Mumbai Indians Cape Town? WTF is that even?

It's a shitshow of changing teams and non-nonsensical names. Knight Riders? Royals? Kings? Kings XI Punjab? Super Kings? Come now. It's a mess.

Listen here. I had sponsor's lined up to have their logos on the outfits for my boys under 11 CPL side. The boys didn't have to pay a cent for outfits, registration etc. Sport is good business in South Africa. But your marketing has to be on point. There is a tournament in December in Mossel Bay. Blokes are already talking to us. There is limited space on the CPL outfits. Basically just the 2 long sleeves

[_Os_]

Agree with Sardy, Sharks branding is the best. No change necessary. Clueless foreigners will have to use Google if they wish to know where the team is located, if they're smarter than an Aussie they will do so, if not they will spend 3 decades saying they don't know where the SA teams are from.

You mean you are not located in Hollywoodbets, South Africa?

As an aside, if you ever wanted to laugh at what a meatheat Duhan vd Merwe is, when asked to point out where Durban was on a map, he pointed at Bloemfontein. According to some people I know who went to school with him, it was known from an early age if he didn't make a career out of rugby, he'd he screwed.

The Hollywoodbets Sharks are located at Hollywoodbets Kings Park stadium. Makes perfect sense.

I saw that video, it was that old meme of people from the Cape not knowing anything about the rest of SA but real, it was very odd. No one can be that dumb?

[Sards]

I agree about WP Stormers. I also don't know why the Stormers never capitalised on the iconic blue and white hoops for a jersey for a start. I've never really liked any of the recent Stormers jerseys, and the colours of the current one make it look like a school kit, or a swimming costume. When I see the traditional WP jersey, it takes me back so many years and speaks of heritage.

As for the DHL / Hollywood Bets / Vodacom bullshit, the sooner it goes the better.

I love the idea of using city names. It may go a long way to giving the teams a sense of location and belonging, and also help bring more tourists over. That is until the ANC demand the names be the Tshwane Bulls, eThekwini Sharks

Unfortunately the only way to have players like Eben, Bongi , Vincent, Esterhuizen, etc is to pay them. I have no issue with Hollywood Bets. Was at the casino taking the kids bowling on the weekend. The amount of money going around was astounding. And it's like the people just didn't care. Besides the thought of gangsterism funding our team, there's no shortage of money.....unlike others who are getting the funding from a family trust fund.......

[Blake]

I have no problem with teams taking money from sponsors and plastering their logos on the jerseys. I just won't buy the jersey, but I'll happily support the sponsors.
It's it's good enough for Formula 1, it's good enough for rugby.

My issue is with naming rights. It's a stupid trend that we started. Nobody else in rugby does this bullshit.
It's gross and it hurts both brands IMO.

DHL Stormers at DHL Stadium with a little DHL logo on the Stormers emblem is cringe and I'll die on this hill.
If DHL was willing to do a white DHL logo on the B&I Lions' jersey, then the red and yellow banner is not as non-negotiable as they claim.

Have and pay for the main sponsor spot on front of the jersey, by all means. But don't hijack the team I love for a cheap marketing ploy.
I won't support your business out of principle if you have so little respect for the beloved brand you are partnering with, no matter how much money you give my team.

[Sards]

I have no problem with teams taking money from sponsors and plastering their logos on the jerseys. I just won't buy the jersey, but I'll happily support the sponsors.
It's it's good enough for Formula 1, it's good enough for rugby.

My issue is with naming rights. It's a stupid trend that we started. Nobody else in rugby does this bullshit.
It's gross and it hurts both brands IMO.

DHL Stormers at DHL Stadium with a little DHL logo on the Stormers emblem is cringe and I'll die on this hill.
If DHL was willing to do a white DHL logo on the B&I Lions' jersey, then the red and yellow banner is not as non-negotiable as they claim.

Have and pay for the main sponsor spot on front of the jersey, by all means. But don't hijack the team I love for a cheap marketing ploy.
I won't support your business out of principle if you have so little respect for the beloved brand you are partnering with, no matter how much money you give my team.

You have made your mind up. Not going to try change it.
Just remember. Sponsor's monitor trends. If you want your side to attract the right sponsors and players you have to support. That's why it's called a supporter.
If you honestly think the Stormers will not be controlled by Sponsors you are in LaLa land.

[LoveOfTheGame]

I have no problem with teams taking money from sponsors and plastering their logos on the jerseys. I just won't buy the jersey, but I'll happily support the sponsors.
It's it's good enough for Formula 1, it's good enough for rugby.

My issue is with naming rights. It's a stupid trend that we started. Nobody else in rugby does this bullshit.
It's gross and it hurts both brands IMO.

DHL Stormers at DHL Stadium with a little DHL logo on the Stormers emblem is cringe and I'll die on this hill.
If DHL was willing to do a white DHL logo on the B&I Lions' jersey, then the red and yellow banner is not as non-negotiable as they claim.

Have and pay for the main sponsor spot on front of the jersey, by all means. But don't hijack the team I love for a cheap marketing ploy.
I won't support your business out of principle if you have so little respect for the beloved brand you are partnering with, no matter how much money you give my team.

You have made your mind up. Not going to try change it.
Just remember. Sponsor's monitor trends. If you want your side to attract the right sponsors and players you have to support. That's why it's called a supporter.
If you honestly think the Stormers will not be controlled by Sponsors you are in LaLa land.

The Stormers could have done much worse than DHL tbf.

[Sards]

I have no problem with teams taking money from sponsors and plastering their logos on the jerseys. I just won't buy the jersey, but I'll happily support the sponsors.
It's it's good enough for Formula 1, it's good enough for rugby.

My issue is with naming rights. It's a stupid trend that we started. Nobody else in rugby does this bullshit.
It's gross and it hurts both brands IMO.

DHL Stormers at DHL Stadium with a little DHL logo on the Stormers emblem is cringe and I'll die on this hill.
If DHL was willing to do a white DHL logo on the B&I Lions' jersey, then the red and yellow banner is not as non-negotiable as they claim.

Have and pay for the main sponsor spot on front of the jersey, by all means. But don't hijack the team I love for a cheap marketing ploy.
I won't support your business out of principle if you have so little respect for the beloved brand you are partnering with, no matter how much money you give my team.

You have made your mind up. Not going to try change it.
Just remember. Sponsor's monitor trends. If you want your side to attract the right sponsors and players you have to support. That's why it's called a supporter.
If you honestly think the Stormers will not be controlled by Sponsors you are in LaLa land.

The Stormers could have done much worse than DHL tbf.

I have no issue with DHL as a sponsor. They sponsor a few sides. I just don't know if they are doing enough for the brand.

[OomStruisbaai]

The IPL cricket show the way for branding. Their SA success is unbelievable.

Ja, no. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

While the IPL has been undeniably successful, I think it has been in spite of branding and not because of it. The branding is, and always has been, terrible.

I mean Mumbai Indians Cape Town? WTF is that even?

It's a shitshow of changing teams and non-nonsensical names. Knight Riders? Royals? Kings? Kings XI Punjab? Super Kings? Come now. It's a mess.

I didnt mean the names as such but they sure got something right pulling some excellent crowds and that for cricket. Paarl draw some big crowds. Even the players have no identity with the teams like rugby.

[Sards]

I didnt mean the names as such but they sure got something right pulling some excellent crowds and that for cricket. Paarl draw some big crowds. Even the players have no identity with the teams like rugby.

I am very impressed. It's the dream platform to become a superstar
Blake has some very old fashioned ideals for such a young person. Or he is an Aries

[assfly]

The lowest point was a few years ago, when I heard a commentator refer to the EP team as The Telkom Callmore Mighty Elephants

Or a Super Rugby game a few years back that started with "Welcome to Vodacom Park for this Vodacom Super Rugby game between the Vodacom Cheetahs and the Vodacom Lions"

[assfly]

I wonder if Tyrone Green is on Rassie's radar.

Arguably one of the best fullbacks in Europe.

One year left before he's English qualified.

[LoveOfTheGame]

I wonder if Tyrone Green is on Rassie's radar.

Arguably one of the best fullbacks in Europe.

One year left before he's English qualified.

Doubt it, we apparently have a very special player that sometimes plays on weekends. Ask your man Sards.

[Sandstorm]

I wonder if Tyrone Green is on Rassie's radar.

Arguably one of the best fullbacks in Europe.

One year left before he's English qualified.

Doubt it, we apparently have a very special player that sometimes plays on weekends. Ask your man Sards.

[assfly]

Doubt it, we apparently have a very special player that sometimes plays on weekends. Ask your man Sards.

Great insight, thanks.

[Sandstorm]

Does Green take shots at goal? Could be useful addition to Kakbok missing his kicks....

[average joe]

HMMM

The Vrystaat Slagters (sponsored by oom Fanie se slaghuis in Senekal)
The Durbin Adult Worlders (you get a free toy and DVD when you buy season tickets)
The Avbob Capetonians (you can support your team even in death)
The Joburg Teasers (the tease with just a bit of sleaze)
The Pretoria Potysters (sponsored by Kobus se scrapyard in Danville)
The Gqeberha Honeysuckles (ons suig die kak wat jou druin verstop)

[LoveOfTheGame]

Doubt it, we apparently have a very special player that sometimes plays on weekends. Ask your man Sards.

Great insight, thanks.

Ag ok Mr Grumpy Pants.

[Blake]

The lowest point was a few years ago, when I heard a commentator refer to the EP team as The Telkom Callmore Mighty Elephants

Or a Super Rugby game a few years back that started with "Welcome to Vodacom Park for this Vodacom Super Rugby game between the Vodacom Cheetahs and the Vodacom Lions"

This. At some point you have to realise that there are diminishing returns on these things.

DHL has been a great sponsor for WP and the Stormers. I cannot deny that. By all means put the logo on the jersey (like you do with Quins or the B&I Lions). Also, plaster your billboards all over the home stadium. You've earned that right. Not a fan of naming the stadium after a sponsor, but okay. It's not the worst thing in the world.

But don't shoehorn your logo into the team's logo and also don't force the broadcasters and commentators to mention your name in front of the team name EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

When I consult a page of teams in the URC to look for something relating to my team, I expect to go to "S" for "Stormers", not "D" for "DHL Stormers". Fuck you DHL. That's too far. You are a SPONSOR. You don't OWN the team.