Have to agree, the number of Turkish barber shops in my little town is crazy and they are never busy, same with vape shops, 2 or 3 of them in town, they cannot be making proper money.
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I've noticed this as well.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
Blimey!inactionman wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:52 amI've noticed this as well.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
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Indeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 amBlimey!inactionman wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:52 amI've noticed this as well.Slick wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:36 am
I think its a fair comment to be honest, it doesn't make much sense all these shops springing up.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
I think you can probably do both.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 amIndeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 amBlimey!inactionman wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:52 am
I've noticed this as well.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
In our short bit of High Street of about 25 shops a new Turkish Barbers has opened about every 6 months. We now have 5 in the short stretch - and also 3 other hairdressers - it just doesn't make any sense.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Some nail bars and Turkish barbers may well be linked to people trafficking and money laundering, but the increasing number of them can also be accounted for by people's desire to be pampered at a relatively low cost, and the recent popularity of skin fades and sculpted beards, which are a speciality of Turkish barbers. They are also the type of business that can be set up and run relatively cheaply, which will make them an attractive proposition for small businesses.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 amIndeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 amBlimey!inactionman wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:52 am
I've noticed this as well.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
However, Reform's concentration on this issue is much more to do with their appeal to racism (foreigners ruining our British cities) than any concern about fraud or money laundering.
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I'm just whinging as I've no need for nail bars but I'm crying out for a good coffee shop. It was just a bit of a let-down when the mini-market closed and we hoped a cafe would take its place, and instead it's another hairdresser, in an area where I can't really see a pressing need for another hairdresser.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 amIndeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 amBlimey!inactionman wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:52 am
I've noticed this as well.
We've not really got a high street near us per se, but there is a row of shops that sort of constitute a centre. The weirdly obsessive Scottish nationalist shop and the mini-supermarket have both closed down, and we were hoping that a cafe or a bar might take at least one of those places. Instead it's another nail bar and another hairdresser.
By my count, aside from the Margiotta supermarket we're very grateful for, we've got 2 hairdressers, a nail bar (I can't work out if the new one is truly new or just the old one shifting to bigger premises), office equipment seller and undertaker on that row of shops. No cafe, pub, bar or restaurant, or anything you'd want to visit.
If I had to guess I'd suspect its the cash-intensive nature of these businesses that make them attractive to owners, staff/commission paid before the money hits the books. Cafes don't really return much revenue for the level of effort, unless it's somewhere busy with significant footfall.
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
We don't have a very strong high-street feel at my local shops, and having services that people need typically once a month - and will travel directly to and from - doesn't really help.
As above my assumption is that people can make good money from hairdressers that they can't make from craft shops, cafes etc.
Assume Farage and Tice were angling at Asians in nail bars and Turks in hairdressers though, so I can see your and Saint's point.
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Nail bars for sure have been very much linked to trafficking and exploitation to the point of actual slavery. Pretty sure though this is simply an attempt at rabble rousing than any true concern over illegality.Lobby wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:09 am
Some nail bars and Turkish barbers may well be linked to people trafficking and money laundering, but the increasing number of them can also be accounted for by people's desire to be pampered at a relatively low cost, and the recent popularity of skin fades and sculpted beards, which are a speciality of Turkish barbers. They are also the type of business that can be set up and run relatively cheaply, which will make them an attractive proposition for small businesses.
However, Reform's concentration on this issue is much more to do with their appeal to racism (foreigners ruining our British cities) than any concern about fraud or money laundering.
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That drugs money isn't going to launder itself now, is it.
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I'm sure that if they have actual proof of illicit activity they will pass it to the appropriate authorities...
I spent a few years doing immigration consultancy for Turks moving to the UK and I imagine this is mostly because it is an easy route to citizenship if they came on the old Ankara Agreement visa route. There's a low barrier to entry and after a few years of cooking the books to make it look like a viable business they will get ILR. There is potentially some money laundering involved as well but not necessarily.Slick wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:06 amI think you can probably do both.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 amIndeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 am
Blimey!
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
In our short bit of High Street of about 25 shops a new Turkish Barbers has opened about every 6 months. We now have 5 in the short stretch - and also 3 other hairdressers - it just doesn't make any sense.
Oh, that's interestingrobmatic wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 2:16 pmI spent a few years doing immigration consultancy for Turks moving to the UK and I imagine this is mostly because it is an easy route to citizenship if they came on the old Ankara Agreement visa route. There's a low barrier to entry and after a few years of cooking the books to make it look like a viable business they will get ILR. There is potentially some money laundering involved as well but not necessarily.Slick wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:06 amI think you can probably do both.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 am
Indeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!
In our short bit of High Street of about 25 shops a new Turkish Barbers has opened about every 6 months. We now have 5 in the short stretch - and also 3 other hairdressers - it just doesn't make any sense.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Proof??? Don't need proof to cast aspersions.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:42 am I'm sure that if they have actual proof of illicit activity they will pass it to the appropriate authorities...
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Could be very expensive for a company that everyone already hates !
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw99ql0239woTicketmaster confirms data hack which could affect 560m globally
Ticketmaster owner Live Nation confirmed "unauthorised activity" on its database after a group of hackers said they had stolen the personal details of 560 million customers.
ShinyHunters, the group claiming responsibility, says the stolen data includes names, addresses, phone numbers and partial credit card details from Ticketmaster users worldwide.
The hacking group is reportedly demanding a $500,000 (£400,000) ransom payment to prevent the data from being sold to other parties.
In a filing to the US Securities and Exchange Commission, Live Nation said that on 27 May "a criminal threat actor offered what it alleged to be Company user data for sale via the dark web", and that it was investigating.
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Three abandoned children all to the same parents
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5115e7k2eno
I hope they can identify the parents at some point to stop them doing this again. Chances are they are quite dysfunctional and need help if they can be found.
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I hope they can identify the parents at some point to stop them doing this again. Chances are they are quite dysfunctional and need help if they can be found.
You're absolutely spot on. There is a huge upturn in things like Turkish Barbers, Tanning studios, sunbeds and Chinese nail bars. A huge proportion are linked to OCG money laundering. We are not talking about tax evasion here just laundering proceeds of crime.Slick wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:06 amI think you can probably do both.tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:59 amIndeed, while this may or may not be an issue - why the emphasis on this rather than other known tax evasion and fraud on a corporate level? Think I can guess!SaintK wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:57 am
Blimey!
I must go around with my eyes shut then. The "Turkish" barber shops I've noticed locally all appear to have customers. Like all barbers there will be quiet times of the day though.
In our short bit of High Street of about 25 shops a new Turkish Barbers has opened about every 6 months. We now have 5 in the short stretch - and also 3 other hairdressers - it just doesn't make any sense.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/0 ... mplemented.
Well, well, well...........Covid vaccines may have helped fuel rise in excess deaths
Experts call for more research into side effects and possible links to mortality rates
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I'm just happy it's being talked about.
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Needs to work on his quads !BnM wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:28 am Marmot hold my beer
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It isn't really. You are never really going to pick up and isolate the vaccines negative impacts from the multitude of variables. The scientists are mostly just being polite.
How do you guys know? Did you go into all of them, strike up conversations with them and then stear it towards where it is that they came from?
I mean its not impossible or anything, but all just seems rather unlikely.
You two must be the best groomed fancy boys about town!
Syrian lad used to cut my hair before I just started taking a razor to it. Really good lad, set up on his own after being in a turkish barber locally, very popular, involved in the local community. Covid I think buggered him up though, not seen him around for a while.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
You don't talk to your barber?? He asked me where I was from first time I went in, I did likewise. Have a grand chat with the guys every 5 weeks; they give me a lager while they cut my hair and we listen to Kurdish House tunes together. Full Craig.PornDog wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:42 pmHow do you guys know? Did you go into all of them, strike up conversations with them and then stear it towards where it is that they came from?
I mean its not impossible or anything, but all just seems rather unlikely.
You two must be the best groomed fancy boys about town!
I don't talk to 12 different ones about town, no.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:23 pmYou don't talk to your barber?? He asked me where I was from first time I went in, I did likewise. Have a grand chat with the guys every 5 weeks; they give me a lager while they cut my hair and we listen to Kurdish House tunes together. Full Craig.PornDog wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:42 pmHow do you guys know? Did you go into all of them, strike up conversations with them and then stear it towards where it is that they came from?
I mean its not impossible or anything, but all just seems rather unlikely.
You two must be the best groomed fancy boys about town!
I do realise now re-reading your post, that you may have meant that the gentlemen that work in your particular local barbers are from Iraq. I had taken you up as meaning that "all of the barber shops in my area" are staffed by Iraqis, similar to what TB was saying. So apologies if I read you wrong.
NP mate. There's Turks, Iraqis, Afghans and even a bloke from Ivory Coast wielding the scissors in our town. All the blokes at work have their favourite, different barber shops - especially the hipsters who like a beard trimming.
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I see Dr Michael Mosely's body has been found on Symi, less than 10 meters from Symi town and potential safety. Likely to have died of heatstroke. Whilst he seemed reasonably well equipped with his sun brolly it's sadly another example of the "mad dogs and Englishmen" saying.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
The body wasn't that close to Symi or Pedi, the last town he was seen in, but it was only a few metres away from a bar at Agia Marina beach (lying just outside the fence around the bar area), so even closer to safety.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 am I see Dr Michael Mosely's body has been found on Symi, less than 10 meters from Symi town and potential safety. Likely to have died of heatstroke. Whilst he seemed reasonably well equipped with his sun brolly it's sadly another example of the "mad dogs and Englishmen" saying.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
I'm not too far away from Symi as the crow flies and it's been hot as balls here for the last week. I can't imagine going for a long stroll at noon - you start feeling it really quickly.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 am I see Dr Michael Mosely's body has been found on Symi, less than 10 meters from Symi town and potential safety. Likely to have died of heatstroke. Whilst he seemed reasonably well equipped with his sun brolly it's sadly another example of the "mad dogs and Englishmen" saying.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
Apologies, when they said the marina, I presumed the main one down at Symi. I know where you are now as we popped in there on a boat trip.Lobby wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:42 amThe body wasn't that close to Symi or Pedi, the last town he was seen in, but it was only a few metres away from a bar at Agia Marina beach (lying just outside the fence around the bar area), so even closer to safety.Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 am I see Dr Michael Mosely's body has been found on Symi, less than 10 meters from Symi town and potential safety. Likely to have died of heatstroke. Whilst he seemed reasonably well equipped with his sun brolly it's sadly another example of the "mad dogs and Englishmen" saying.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
We went to Symi three years ago in June and I think it was pretty close to being the hottest few days I have ever experienced. I went for an early morning hike to explore the small buildings on the hill above the harbour and it just about floored me.