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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:04 am
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Noise off windmills gives you cancer..

They perform abortions after birth..

Yup, sane as....
at least he doesn't want to fuck his own daughter
🤣 Do what? He's on TV saying he'd nail his own daughter FFS!...
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... truth.html
Biden's daughter Ashley has finally admitted her diary about 'showers with dad' as well as fears she was 'molested' is real
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Daniels told a magazine six years ago that she had an affair with Donald Trump starting right after his wife Melania gave birth to their son, Barron…He told me once that I was someone to be reckoned with, beautiful and smart just like his daughter,” Daniels said.
During a Feb. 27, 2013, interview on The Wendy Williams Show, Trump was asked what he and his daughter both consider their favorite things. Trump answered, “I was going to say sex, but I can relate to [golf and real estate
During a March 6, 2006 episode of The View, Donald Trump made a casual remark that really made my skin crawl. When a host asks how Donald Trump would feel about his daughter posing for Playboy, he says that “Ivanka posing for Playboy would be really disappointing… not really. But it would depend on what was inside the magazine … I don’t think Ivanka would [do a nude shoot] inside the magazine. Although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” (
During a 2015 interview with Donald Trump for Rolling Stone, reporter Paul Solotaroff praised Ivanka Trump. The soon-to-be president’s response? “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father…”
According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:53 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... truth.html
Biden's daughter Ashley has finally admitted her diary about 'showers with dad' as well as fears she was 'molested' is real
Amazing that a cheap and nasty tabloid is your go-to source.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:52 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:53 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... truth.html
Biden's daughter Ashley has finally admitted her diary about 'showers with dad' as well as fears she was 'molested' is real
Amazing that a cheap and nasty tabloid is your go-to source.
At least I'm not using the words of a Porn Star to back my case up.
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm At least I'm not using the words of a Porn Star to back my case up.
What's your theory as to why she was paid $130k?
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:03 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm At least I'm not using the words of a Porn Star to back my case up.
What's your theory as to why she was paid $130k?
I'm not an idiot, there was some sexual shannanigans without a doubt and she was paid off. Rich men tend to fuck a lot of attractive(?) women and want to hide if from their public lives. Is it a big deal? No. Does it make him any less of a potentially good Potus? No.

FFS, a former POTUS fucked an intern in the White House and practically got away with it.
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He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:07 pm At least I'm not using the words of a Porn Star to back my case up.
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm without a doubt and she was paid off.
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm I'm not an idiot
:eh:
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:44 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:07 pm At least I'm not using the words of a Porn Star to back my case up.
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm without a doubt and she was paid off.
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:53 pm I'm not an idiot
:eh:
<shrugs>
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
Worzel Gummidge having a wank springs to mind....
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
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https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURTS/nyc/cri ... Conviction

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURTS/nyc/cri ... l#Sentence
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:21 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
Worzel Gummidge having a wank springs to mind....
He's not a convicted felon, you're wrong. I'm correct. Suck it up, buttercup.
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Niegs wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:30 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
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https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURTS/nyc/cri ... Conviction

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/COURTS/nyc/cri ... l#Sentence
“You are not convicted until the judge enters that judgment of guilt. Now, in New York, it’s very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issues sentencing. That’d be July 11th.
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Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
How should we refer to him then? A felon-in-waiting? A felonuand?
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:55 pm Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
Look, Trump was found guilty due to the testimony of a pornstar and Micheal Cohen who in 2018 pleaded guilty to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

So there's that.
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:05 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:55 pm Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
Look, Trump was found guilty due to the testimony of a pornstar and Micheal Cohen who in 2018 pleaded guilty to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

So there's that.
... and the link between what I've said [ie your pathetically weak 1 disgraced nutter source stating your hero might "technically" not officially be 'convicted' until July 11, like it's some massive win or somehow changes anything] and what you're now spouting is?

Conflating much? Time for your afternoon nap.
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:13 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:05 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:55 pm Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
Look, Trump was found guilty due to the testimony of a pornstar and Micheal Cohen who in 2018 pleaded guilty to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

So there's that.
... and the link between what I've said [ie your pathetically weak 1 disgraced nutter source stating your hero might "technically" not officially be 'convicted' until July 11, like it's some massive win or somehow changes anything] and what you're now spouting is?

Conflating much? Time for your afternoon nap.
I said the Trump wasn't a convicted felon, yet. Accept it and move on.
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inactionman wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:58 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm
TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16 pm He's a convicted felon. That alone should bar him from holding office..
No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
How should we refer to him then? A felon-in-waiting? A felonuand?
How about the quadrice-indicted twice-impeached popular-vote-losing adderall-huffing insurrection-leading testimony-ducking judge-threatening lawyer-ignoring witness-tampering day-one-dictatoring disabled-veteran-dishonoring inheritance-squandering rube-fleecing clown-makeup-smearing language-mangling serial-sexual-predating draft-dodging casino-bankrupting butler-bullying daughter-perving hush-money-paying real-estate-scamming bone-spur-faking ketchup-hurling justice-obstructing classified-war-plan-thieving golf-cheating weather-map-defacing horse-paste-promoting paper-towel-flinging race-baiting tax-evading evidence-destroying charity-defrauding money-laundering diaper-filling 88-count 34 guilty counts fluorescent tangerine felony factory..
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:25 pm
inactionman wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:58 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:21 pm

No he isn't.

You're not a convicted Felon because of a jury verdict. You're not a convicted felon until the Judge enters a judgement of guilt against you.

The Judge hasn't done this yet. Ergo. Trump is not a Convicted Felon.
How should we refer to him then? A felon-in-waiting? A felonuand?
How about the quadrice-indicted twice-impeached popular-vote-losing adderall-huffing insurrection-leading testimony-ducking judge-threatening lawyer-ignoring witness-tampering day-one-dictatoring disabled-veteran-dishonoring inheritance-squandering rube-fleecing clown-makeup-smearing language-mangling serial-sexual-predating draft-dodging casino-bankrupting butler-bullying daughter-perving hush-money-paying real-estate-scamming bone-spur-faking ketchup-hurling justice-obstructing classified-war-plan-thieving golf-cheating weather-map-defacing horse-paste-promoting paper-towel-flinging race-baiting tax-evading evidence-destroying charity-defrauding money-laundering diaper-filling 88-count 34 guilty counts fluorescent tangerine felony factory..
Stage 4 TDS, I see.
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Any of the above false?..
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:35 pm Any of the above false?..
You forgot witch hunted.
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You are once again feeding the troll.
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The whole 171 desperate pages of this thread is the actual Troll.

God knows how you're going to cope in November.

That's if Trump isn't taken out first.
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laurent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:52 pm You are once again feeding the troll.
He's just smarting over the loss to Scarlets... :grin:
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:14 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:52 pm You are once again feeding the troll.
He's just smarting over the loss to Scarlets... :grin:
I'm serious, that fucking ref was a joke, beyond a joke. The forward pass was legendary and the way he worded every 50/50 call to the TMO was a disgrace, that was just the first half.....and the way they managed to talk themselves out of giving a Red when we've seen Reds for that all season was just so predictable.

No wonder Welsh Rugby is dying on it's arse.
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😂 Id have met you for a pint but was in Oxford again..
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TB63 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:23 pm 😂 Id have met you for a pint but was in Oxford again..
Seriously, it's horrendous. I take my lad to go and watch County, I'm not putting him through taking him to the Rugby, it's beyond a shit show.
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That's how POTUS should act, not an all caps rant screaming witch hunt...
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David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:05 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:55 pm Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
Look, Trump was found guilty.

So there's that.
Fixed that for you.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:00 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:05 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:55 pm Quoting the disgraced antivaxer Jed Rubenfeld's podcast doesn't help your argument but kudos on finding that alt source (Fox News!) rather than the Daily hEIL article. :thumbup:
Look, Trump was found guilty.

So there's that.
Fixed that for you.
Don't worry, I'm sure his interview with his NY Parole Officer was a breeze.

I mean, it's not like he has a long string of fraud charges, bankruptcies, lawsuits, civil rape convictions in his pocket; or indeed any pending cases......

He's an upstanding member of the community, & full accepts the Courts Judgement, & the trial was a big nothingburger, with no complaints from the Judge around his conduct, that might cause him to be anything other than sympathetic to the convict.
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:00 pm
David in Gwent wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:05 pm

Look, Trump was found guilty.

So there's that.
Fixed that for you.
Don't worry, I'm sure his interview with his NY Parole Officer was a breeze.

I mean, it's not like he has a long string of fraud charges, bankruptcies, lawsuits, civil rape convictions in his pocket; or indeed any pending cases......

He's an upstanding member of the community, & full accepts the Courts Judgement, & the trial was a big nothingburger, with no complaints from the Judge around his conduct, that might cause him to be anything other than sympathetic to the convict.
He was able to conduct the interview via Zoom, and with counsel. Something which is, apparently, not usually the case.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... oney-trial
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No comment on Hunter Biden then?

One wonders how'd you all be reacting if this was Trump Jnr.

Things are about to start unravelling very fast.
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Republicans are scrambling to prevent Hunter Biden’s conviction on felony gun charges from undermining their argument that the judicial system is being weaponized against Donald Trump. They just can’t agree on how.

Trump’s campaign cast the conviction of his rival’s son on Tuesday as a “distraction from the real crimes of the Biden Crime Family,” while some hard-line supporters dismissed the proceedings as “fake.” House Speaker Mike Johnson argued that Hunter Biden’s conviction “doesn’t” undercut Republicans’ claims of a two-tiered justice system because the evidence against him was “overwhelming.” And still other Hill Republicans went so far as to describe the verdict as a “step towards ensuring equal application of the law.”

Republicans’ divergent responses to the verdict on Tuesday afternoon offered a real-time glimpse into the party’s struggle to reconcile what should have been a political win — the criminal conviction of the president’s son — with the guilty verdict rendered against their own standard bearer.

“It throws a bit of sand in the gears of people suggesting the Biden Department of Justice has been engineered to go after Trump,” said Jason Roe, a GOP strategist and former chair of the Michigan Republican Party.

But, Roe conceded, “one feature of the modern Republican Party is ignoring facts that don’t support the argument and sometimes embracing the conspiracy theories that do.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/1 ... n-00162726
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Whichever source you check, it seems that the probability of being convicted (or even charged) for making false statements when purchasing a handgun is incredibly low -- as low as under 1% in some studies -- so Hunter must consider himself highly privileged to be one of the very few.

Another question worth asking is whether this case would have been brought had his surname been anything other than Biden.
Reviews by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in fiscal 2017 led to 112,000 gun-purchase denials because people were in forbidden categories, according to a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The Justice Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) investigated 12,700 of those cases.

How many of the investigated cases resulted in prosecutions?

Twelve.

That’s 0.09 percent of the cases ATF investigated.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:07 pm Another question worth asking is whether this case would have been brought had his surname been anything other than Biden.
For sure. But in the current climate there was no opportunity to dismiss them and provide ammunition the GOP desperately craved. After all the millions spent, the hours of Congressmen’s ‘work’, the dog whistling about the Biden crime family, the posturing and table thumping… this is all they’ve got. Pathetic really.
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Kiwias wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:07 pm Whichever source you check, it seems that the probability of being convicted (or even charged) for making false statements when purchasing a handgun is incredibly low -- as low as under 1% in some studies -- so Hunter must consider himself highly privileged to be one of the very few.

Another question worth asking is whether this case would have been brought had his surname been anything other than Biden.
Reviews by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in fiscal 2017 led to 112,000 gun-purchase denials because people were in forbidden categories, according to a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The Justice Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) investigated 12,700 of those cases.

How many of the investigated cases resulted in prosecutions?

Twelve.

That’s 0.09 percent of the cases ATF investigated.
Yeah !

There aren't too many cases of drug addicts, essentially turned in by their own families, because they're afraid that the addict is planning to off themselves with the illegally obtained gun, being prosecuted.

This is an example of, both side'ism, at it's worst; except in that case, the orange turd would already be sitting in an 8x4 cell for the last month or so, because that's what happens in contempt of Court.
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