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Lucky England. We play like a George Graham or Mourinho team.
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sefton wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:31 pm Lucky England. We play like a George Graham or Mourinho team.
Mourinho would have substituted players before half time, tbf.


Toney has really shown up Kane since coming on
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Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
Hard to call a goal like that jammy, however England look shit. You wonder if the likes of Bellingham and Foden look better with their clubs because of the quality around them.
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:34 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
Hard to call a goal like that jammy, however England look shit. You wonder if the likes of Bellingham and Foden look better with their clubs because of the quality around them.
That is a very silly thing to say about Bellingham, given his dominance in an average Dortmund team then his frankly absurd debut season in Madrid.
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Slovakian manager taking it well.
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Slovakian manager acting the cunt at full time, that's a shame.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:37 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:34 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
Hard to call a goal like that jammy, however England look shit. You wonder if the likes of Bellingham and Foden look better with their clubs because of the quality around them.
That is a very silly thing to say about Bellingham, given his dominance in an average Dortmund team then his frankly absurd debut season in Madrid.
Not doubting the lads ability but rarely looks that player for
England so something is different.
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Southgate won’t change, England will get shafted by the first half decent side,.
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:40 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:37 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:34 pm

Hard to call a goal like that jammy, however England look shit. You wonder if the likes of Bellingham and Foden look better with their clubs because of the quality around them.
That is a very silly thing to say about Bellingham, given his dominance in an average Dortmund team then his frankly absurd debut season in Madrid.
Not doubting the lads ability but rarely looks that player for
England so something is different.
Probably has something to do with him being 12 years old and playing for a team that is more negative than Biffer...

He is an extraordinary player and rightly considered one of the best in the world. He's had a poor tournament after the opening 45 minutes but the sheer awfulness of the entire team and the appalling management has a lot to do with that. He's now saved us twice, so not doing too bad despite his form!
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Morata, accuses another player of diving, then takes a massive e dive
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:45 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:40 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:37 pm

That is a very silly thing to say about Bellingham, given his dominance in an average Dortmund team then his frankly absurd debut season in Madrid.
Not doubting the lads ability but rarely looks that player for
England so something is different.
Probably has something to do with him being 12 years old and playing for a team that is more negative than Biffer...

He is an extraordinary player and rightly considered one of the best in the world. He's had a poor tournament after the opening 45 minutes but the sheer awfulness of the entire team and the appalling management has a lot to do with that. He's now saved us twice, so not doing too bad despite his form!
Fair enough. Unlike Biffer, I'm not one of those Scots who would have been happy with an England defeat at this stage. Would far prefer for them to progress further so the agony is prolonged and more severe when it inevitably comes. 😜
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:34 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:45 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:40 pm

Not doubting the lads ability but rarely looks that player for
England so something is different.
Probably has something to do with him being 12 years old and playing for a team that is more negative than Biffer...

He is an extraordinary player and rightly considered one of the best in the world. He's had a poor tournament after the opening 45 minutes but the sheer awfulness of the entire team and the appalling management has a lot to do with that. He's now saved us twice, so not doing too bad despite his form!
Fair enough. Unlike Biffer, I'm not one of those Scots who would have been happy with an England defeat at this stage. Would far prefer for them to progress further so the agony is prolonged and more severe when it inevitably comes. 😜
I have no objection to this path of events.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:34 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:45 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:40 pm

Not doubting the lads ability but rarely looks that player for
England so something is different.
Probably has something to do with him being 12 years old and playing for a team that is more negative than Biffer...

He is an extraordinary player and rightly considered one of the best in the world. He's had a poor tournament after the opening 45 minutes but the sheer awfulness of the entire team and the appalling management has a lot to do with that. He's now saved us twice, so not doing too bad despite his form!
Fair enough. Unlike Biffer, I'm not one of those Scots who would have been happy with an England defeat at this stage. Would far prefer for them to progress further so the agony is prolonged and more severe when it inevitably comes. 😜
Yet another penalty shoot out against zee Germans ?
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Southgate is actually mental and the luckiest man alive.

Didn't make his second sub until the 84th minute and his third sub until the 90th something minute.

Never seen a football coach less willing to make use of the attacking options on his bench when his starting XI are not performing.

Switzerland will knock this shambles out.
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Southgate is a lucky bastard. Trippier and walker were both shite offering fuck all going forward and looking well and truly past their best. Mainoo improved the midfield balance. Foden was epically shit and gets in Bellinghams and Kanes way. He evidently can't operate outside of guardiola's system/special sauce and the left flank was awful again. We lack a player of runs in behind or stretches the play like Gordon or rashford would.
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Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
I predicted it. I’m conditioned to expect this sort of thing from England, but seriously, in the 7th minute of 6 minutes’ stoppage time? Jammy really is the word.
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Yr Alban wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
I predicted it. I’m conditioned to expect this sort of thing from England, but seriously, in the 7th minute of 6 minutes’ stoppage time? Jammy really is the word.
What game were you watching?
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Our greatest strength lies not in the starting XI.

It's in the fact we have about 16 players who have a genuine shout to start. In addition to yesterdays starting XI: Palmer, Watkins, Gordon, TAA +1 (depending on scenario Eze, Toney etc).

This is why Southgate's inflexibility is so maddening. He must have made about a dozen subs in the tournament so far and I'd say 80% have positively impacted the game. Example: our second goal came from a free kick delivered by Palmer (which was better than any set piece delivery from Foden) which the keeper could not claim. Then the ball is struck by Eze before being headed on by Toney. Those were his first three subs.

Yet he waits and waits and waits to bring players on as of it is the last thing he wants to do. If I were in his shoes I would make my first sub at halftime and then look to add a player every ten minutes or so from the 60th onwards.

I know you don't want to tinker too heavily with the balance of the side but like I said I think about 4 in every 5 of his subs makes an impact on the game. He needs to trust his bench.
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Yr Alban wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
I predicted it. I’m conditioned to expect this sort of thing from England, but seriously, in the 7th minute of 6 minutes’ stoppage time? Jammy really is the word.
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Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:46 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
I predicted it. I’m conditioned to expect this sort of thing from England, but seriously, in the 7th minute of 6 minutes’ stoppage time? Jammy really is the word.
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Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:46 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:11 pm
Biffer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pmJammy cunts.
I predicted it. I’m conditioned to expect this sort of thing from England, but seriously, in the 7th minute of 6 minutes’ stoppage time? Jammy really is the word.
Happy to help.

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That hasn't crossed the line. More jam.
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Sesko just needed to chip it, ffs!
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Niegs wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:29 pm Sesko just needed to chip it, ffs!
Yeah he's gonna remember that miss.
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Looking good for my official 2nd team Turkey despite them having a rotten defence.
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robmatic wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:23 pm Looking good for my official 2nd team Turkey despite them having a rotten defence.
Well, that didn't take long.
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That was a bloody good game
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Wow. :clap:
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Maybe Gareth Southgate can learn something from the Turkish strategy of playing without a centre forward and with defenders who look like they have never met each other before.
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Im a huge Ronaldo fan, but he’s been a total waste of a shirt in this tournament so far
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That Spain Germany game was football at its finest.
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You are heading to penalties and your number 1 penalty taker decides to leave the field because his nose is sore. 😂
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Does Harry Kane not like shooting these days?
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Slick wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:17 pm Does Harry Kane not like shooting these days?
He doesn’t like running either.
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Not. In. Touch.


Try.
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Slick wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:17 pm Does Harry Kane not like shooting these days?
He has stunk this tournament out. He has no interest in running at all.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:35 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:17 pm Does Harry Kane not like shooting these days?
He has stunk this tournament out. He has no interest in running at all.
Or getting on the end of crosses.

Edit: Watkins or Toney for Kane would add pace or physicality.
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petej wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:59 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:35 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:17 pm Does Harry Kane not like shooting these days?
He has stunk this tournament out. He has no interest in running at all.
Or getting on the end of crosses.

Edit: Watkins or Toney for Kane would add pace or physicality.
Theo Walcott is at the ground
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The Swiss coach thinking about his final moves...

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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:09 pm
petej wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:59 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:35 pm

He has stunk this tournament out. He has no interest in running at all.
Or getting on the end of crosses.

Edit: Watkins or Toney for Kane would add pace or physicality.
Theo Walcott is at the ground
Probably still faster than Kane and it would remove the most dangerous strain of spursiness that even struck down Bayern Munich.
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