President Biden and US politics catchall

[epwc]

Thank fuck

[Guy Smiley]

Thank fuck

Yup. The rage will be directed inwards. Perhaps the entire GOP self combusts in a conflagration of hate.

[Torquemada 1420]

One has to ask how the shooter managed to miss, he's bright orange and f'king huge, you couldn't get an easier target.

Needed more Oswald.

[epwc]

Yup. The rage will be directed inwards. Perhaps the entire GOP self combusts in a conflagration of hate.

Dunno, the strange perversion that is the modern Republican Party could just go even further towards insanity.

[Enzedder]

One has to ask how the shooter managed to miss, he's bright orange and f'king huge, you couldn't get an easier target.

Needed more Oswald.

'Sharpshooter'

[Insane_Homer]

Don't worry, folks. Alex Jones just confirmed all those people are actors.

[geordie_6]

https://x.com/coladoggxxx/status/1812285847921910241

Snipers set up on roof to the right of Trump reacting. Seems to be looking at them a lot but that's just the angle.

Right...?

[geordie_6]

https://x.com/MikeCollinsGA/status/1812 ... qI_Xg&s=09

And we have a Republican Congressman immediately stating that Biden was responsible...

[tabascoboy]

Fuck, if it’s a Mexican or a Muslim who knows what’ll happen. He’s definitely president again, beyond fucking ridiculous

It was a young white male, registered Republican voter wearing a t shirt promoting a popular gun website.

This is only going to stir up the tinfoil hatters: "The whole thing stinks of a false flag!" #MAGA

[Glaston]

Fuck, if it’s a Mexican or a Muslim who knows what’ll happen. He’s definitely president again, beyond fucking ridiculous

It was a young white male, registered Republican voter wearing a t shirt promoting a popular gun website.

Demolition ranch and its other channels is actually quite fun.

[inactionman]

I shouldn't make light, but I can't help thinking how disappointed Melania must have been.


Crazy to think that 2 inches to the side and the US would now be in meltdown.

[fishfoodie]

Biden might has well hand the Manchurian Candidate the election now.

Ah well, it was a nice Democracy while it lasted..

[David in Gwent]

Biden might has well hand the Manchurian Candidate the election now.

Ah well, it was a nice Democracy while it lasted..

The Left have utterly destroyed democracy. It doesn't suit them, or their ideals.

[David in Gwent]

I did say the only way to stop Trump was to kill him.

They'v tried everything else......

[troglodiet]

Fuck, if it’s a Mexican or a Muslim who knows what’ll happen. He’s definitely president again, beyond fucking ridiculous

It was a young white male, registered Republican voter wearing a t shirt promoting a popular gun website.

This is only going to stir up the tinfoil hatters: "The whole thing stinks of a false flag!" #MAGA

We already had "tinfoil hatters" from the non-MAGA side earlier on this thread suggesting it might have been staged. You find the conspiracy types on both sides of the spectrum.

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen one post condemning the incident. The closest we got was regret, only in as far as that the incident will probably help Trump.

We're talking human lives here. Not only Trump, but so far at least one supporter and two others in critical condition. Whether you agree with their political (or other views) or not, it's still human lives.

This is why I've turned my back on politics. It's all about personalities and party affiliation. All sides see the others as enemies, instead of having healthy discussions and debates, and trying to figure out ways to reach consensus or middle-ground for the benefit of all citizens of that country.

Earlier I posted that I feel sorry for Biden, that he shouldn't be subjected to this pressure as he clearly suffers from some sort of serious medical condition. I made the mistake of prefacing my post that I didn't like Biden. But despite not liking him, I still feel sorry for him given the state he is in. I was taken to task for not liking him for reasons I didn't even mention, instead of just reading my whole post about feeling sorry for a fragile old man.

Seeing political rivals as enemies, is exactly what gave us this incident. And the attempts/killings of/on JFK, Reagan, Clinton, George W, Obama and the list goes on.

Politicians these days don't care about the country, they are only concerned with the next election.

People think they know what my political views are. They will probably be surprised if they find out. But I just wish politics becomes more civil and humane.

[Insane_Homer]

https://x.com/MikeCollinsGA/status/1812 ... qI_Xg&s=09

And we have a Republican Congressman immediately stating that Biden was responsible...

An official act?

[Sandstorm]

Will fewer people go to Trump rallies now? Dangerous place to watch a speech. RIP the poor person who died.

[geordie_6]

https://x.com/MikeCollinsGA/status/1812 ... qI_Xg&s=09

And we have a Republican Congressman immediately stating that Biden was responsible...

An official act?

If so then Seal Team 6 have gotten sloppy...

[TB63]

Blowbert blames Biden....

https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/18123 ... POBCQ&s=19

[troglodiet]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

[fishfoodie]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

He isn't "entitled" to secret service protection, because he isn't a full candidate, he isn't even on the ballot in enough States to win. If he wants security he can ask his billionaire running mate to pay for some.

[Kiwias]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

I fail to grasp the logic behind your belief that this attempt on Trump will cause a lot of Dem voters to turn their backs on the DP, who seemingly had absolutely nothing to do with this attempted assassination.

Boy, your dislike of Biden is stronger than I thought.

[Calculon]

It was a young white male, registered Republican voter wearing a t shirt promoting a popular gun website.

This is only going to stir up the tinfoil hatters: "The whole thing stinks of a false flag!" #MAGA

We already had "tinfoil hatters" from the non-MAGA side earlier on this thread suggesting it might have been staged. You find the conspiracy types on both sides of the spectrum.

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen one post condemning the incident. The closest we got was regret, only in as far as that the incident will probably help Trump.

We're talking human lives here. Not only Trump, but so far at least one supporter and two others in critical condition. Whether you agree with their political (or other views) or not, it's still human lives.

This is why I've turned my back on politics. It's all about personalities and party affiliation. All sides see the others as enemies, instead of having healthy discussions and debates, and trying to figure out ways to reach consensus or middle-ground for the benefit of all citizens of that country.

Earlier I posted that I feel sorry for Biden, that he shouldn't be subjected to this pressure as he clearly suffers from some sort of serious medical condition. I made the mistake of prefacing my post that I didn't like Biden. But despite not liking him, I still feel sorry for him given the state he is in. I was taken to task for not liking him for reasons I didn't even mention, instead of just reading my whole post about feeling sorry for a fragile old man.

Seeing political rivals as enemies, is exactly what gave us this incident. And the attempts/killings of/on JFK, Reagan, Clinton, George W, Obama and the list goes on.

Politicians these days don't care about the country, they are only concerned with the next election.

People think they know what my political views are. They will probably be surprised if they find out. But I just wish politics becomes more civil and humane.

Yeah yeah, Dems and Repubs are as bad as each other, amirite? Rather than having a bit of a whine about posters misrepresenting you and be coy about it, just state what you think. You’ve said you “really dislike” Biden and that he’s delusional, as well as made fun of his mental state, so I’m not really buying the sudden deep concern you have for him. You’ve posted and praised a Russel Brand video where Brand goes on how awful the Dems are, especially the likes of Harris and Hillary. You clearly dislike those two and tbf neither are very likeable…. which is another reason why replacing Biden with Harris is not a good idea cos iirc she polls quite a bit worse than Biden amongst Independents in the swing states

Anyways, you end with “I just wish politics becomes more civil and humane”. Who do you think represents those values better, Trump or Biden?

[Biffer]

The attempt on Reagan life gave him a short term poll boost, but after a few months was no longer having any effect on the polls.

[troglodiet]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

I fail to grasp the logic behind your belief that this attempt on Trump will cause a lot of Dem voters to turn their backs on the DP, who seemingly had absolutely nothing to do with this attempted assassination.

Boy, your dislike of Biden is stronger than I thought.

WTAF.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion from my post. Your behaviour on this thread is really pathetic tbh.

I refer back to my post about politics having become a thing about personalities and party affiliations (of which I have none btw).

You cannot ignore that there is a huge divide within the Dem party, one of the biggest reasons being Biden's apparent medical difficulties and whether he should be the nominated candidate or not. It has nothing to do with my dislike of Biden.

But for the record, yes I do dislike Biden a lot. And your now frankly irritating little snipes at me for not sharing your worldview is really childish. As childish as the attempts to see who can come up with the "best" insulting name for Trump.

Mate, we used to get along very well, especially due to our shared disease. I never expected this type of behaviour from you, I thought you had more class than that.

[SaintK]

The attempt on Reagan life gave him a short term poll boost, but after a few months was no longer having any effect on the polls.

I don't think Trump actually needs a poll bounce. Biden's gereatric meanderings are doing that for him!!!

[Kiwias]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

I fail to grasp the logic behind your belief that this attempt on Trump will cause a lot of Dem voters to turn their backs on the DP, who seemingly had absolutely nothing to do with this attempted assassination.

Boy, your dislike of Biden is stronger than I thought.

WTAF.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion from my post. Your behaviour on this thread is really pathetic tbh.

I refer back to my post about politics having become a thing about personalities and party affiliations (of which I have none btw).

You cannot ignore that there is a huge divide within the Dem party, one of the biggest reasons being Biden's apparent medical difficulties and whether he should be the nominated candidate or not. It has nothing to do with my dislike of Biden.

But for the record, yes I do dislike Biden a lot. And your now frankly irritating little snipes at me for not sharing your worldview is really childish. As childish as the attempts to see who can come up with the "best" insulting name for Trump.

Mate, we used to get along very well, especially due to our shared disease. I never expected this type of behaviour from you, I thought you had more class than that.

trogs

I did not expect that level of response to an observation about your view that this attempt will cause voters to turn away from the Democrats. I was not sniping at your world view, my friend.

Yes, there is a huge divide within the Dems over whether Biden should be the candidate, and probably a very healthy debate to be had, but in all honesty, my biggest surprise is that there is no divide within the GOP over whether a convicted felon and convicted rapist should be their candidate. Politics is indeed a very strange world.

[Torquemada 1420]

I did say the only way to stop Trump was to kill him.

They'v tried everything else......

"They"

[Uncle fester]

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen one post condemning the incident. The closest we got was regret, only in as far as that the incident will probably help Trump.

He wanted the central park five executed so fück him.

[Calculon]

I did say the only way to stop Trump was to kill him.

They'v tried everything else......

"They"

[fishfoodie]

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen one post condemning the incident. The closest we got was regret, only in as far as that the incident will probably help Trump.

He wanted the central park five executed so fück him.

When he was told the crowd on Jan 6th were chanting, "Hang Mike Pence", he said, "Maybe they should !"

That was Mike Pence, The Vice-President of the United States, HIS Vice-President !

[Kiwias]

Unless I missed it, I haven't seen one post condemning the incident. The closest we got was regret, only in as far as that the incident will probably help Trump.

He wanted the central park five executed so fück him.

And he refused to change his views on the five even after they were exonerated. Double fuck him.

This does not mean I condone the attempted killing. I condemn violence of this sort.

[Calculon]

Nancy Pelosi's husband had his skull cracked open by some right wing nutter. He's still suffering complications from that incident. Trump made fun of the incident to a Republican MAGA crowd, they lapped it up.

[Uncle fester]

Watching some news clips on Youtube, I just learned that JFKjr doesn't have any security provided to him, despite running for the presidency, and despite having repeatedly asked for it as he is entitled to have.

Imagine how he must feel now, given his father and uncle were assassinated.

And I think a lot of Dem voters, after seeing the performance of Biden lately, as well as this attempt on Trump, are going to turn their backs on the Democratic party. But they're not suddenly going to vote for Trump now, they're going to vote for RFK, so he will probably feel a lot less safe now.

I fail to grasp the logic behind your belief that this attempt on Trump will cause a lot of Dem voters to turn their backs on the DP, who seemingly had absolutely nothing to do with this attempted assassination.

Boy, your dislike of Biden is stronger than I thought.

WTAF.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion from my post. Your behaviour on this thread is really pathetic tbh.

I refer back to my post about politics having become a thing about personalities and party affiliations (of which I have none btw).

You cannot ignore that there is a huge divide within the Dem party, one of the biggest reasons being Biden's apparent medical difficulties and whether he should be the nominated candidate or not. It has nothing to do with my dislike of Biden.

But for the record, yes I do dislike Biden a lot. And your now frankly irritating little snipes at me for not sharing your worldview is really childish. As childish as the attempts to see who can come up with the "best" insulting name for Trump.

Mate, we used to get along very well, especially due to our shared disease. I never expected this type of behaviour from you, I thought you had more class than that.

You're getting heat because of your refusal to own your "bad on both sides" waffle.

[tabascoboy]

Well according to Farage it's all the liberal media and Jo Brand's fault. That's it then, no need for further inquiry. Oh and also God saved him according to the man himself...

Seriously, the Secret Service and Police will have some very difficult questions to answer going by early reports and claims that they were alerted to the presence of a possible shooter before shots were fired. Hindsight is always 20/20 of course but even if security overall is not as tight as for the President himself, and they had made checks on the area surrounding the rally and cleared it, in these days of cheap but good quality surveillance drones one or two of those of those making camera sweeps back to a monitor would surely have been helpful and provided early warning and maybe deterred the shooter?

The failings here are only going to fuel the notion of "deep state" involvement, even if the simple answer that the USA has too many batshit mental cases with easy access to high power weaponry.

[David in Gwent]

Biden a few days ago.

“ So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a BULLSEYE ”

[Oxbow]

He even shouted the word BULLSEYE to make it more obvious.

[Niegs]

Well according to Farage it's all the liberal media and Jo Brand's fault. That's it then, no need for further inquiry. Oh and also God saved him according to the man himself...

Seriously, the Secret Service and Police will have some very difficult questions to answer going by early reports and claims that they were alerted to the presence of a possible shooter before shots were fired. Hindsight is always 20/20 of course but even if security overall is not as tight as for the President himself, and they had made checks on the area surrounding the rally and cleared it, in these days of cheap but good quality surveillance drones one or two of those of those making camera sweeps back to a monitor would surely have been helpful and provided early warning and maybe deterred the shooter?

The failings here are only going to fuel the notion of "deep state" involvement, even if the simple answer that the USA has too many batshit mental cases with easy access to high power weaponry.

It must be hardest to continually scan for potential trouble in a crowd (can think of a few people shot by someone who walked right up), but seems like the easiest thing to do with so many Secret Service, security, and police is have one set of eyes on every high point. Can’t have been many in an open location like that. Huge after-action review coming up for that team.

[tabascoboy]

Well according to Farage it's all the liberal media and Jo Brand's fault. That's it then, no need for further inquiry. Oh and also God saved him according to the man himself...

Seriously, the Secret Service and Police will have some very difficult questions to answer going by early reports and claims that they were alerted to the presence of a possible shooter before shots were fired. Hindsight is always 20/20 of course but even if security overall is not as tight as for the President himself, and they had made checks on the area surrounding the rally and cleared it, in these days of cheap but good quality surveillance drones one or two of those of those making camera sweeps back to a monitor would surely have been helpful and provided early warning and maybe deterred the shooter?

The failings here are only going to fuel the notion of "deep state" involvement, even if the simple answer that the USA has too many batshit mental cases with easy access to high power weaponry.

It must be hardest to continually scan for potential trouble in a crowd (can think of a few people shot by someone who walked right up), but seems like the easiest thing to do with so many Secret Service, security, and police is have one set of eyes on every high point. Can’t have been many in an open location like that. Huge after-action review coming up for that team.

Have to assume that the assessed main threat was indeed someone blending into the crowd and trying to get up close. Easy to be an armchair critic of course, all those times when major security operations pass of with no incident and no-one says "Hey! Great job!"

[David in Gwent]

Quite amazing, really, to photo shop out the US Flag.