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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:53 pm
Sinkers wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:37 pm I say this regularly but anybody else would have been disappeared into a black hole as soon as top secret documents were found in their toilet.
Yup. If The republicans had anyone even half-popular as Trump, they would have binned him. But he's still their best chance, so he can do whatever he wants and they'll back him.
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Jack White has joined the growing list of people suing Donald Trump for using their music. And in White fashion he called Trump team fascists and referred to Trump as DonOLD :) Full kudos to White for also pointing out veterans and the current military shouldn't vote Trump due to the Donald dissing them like a complete arsehole.
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Cunt being a cunt. The orange one has chosen well!!!!
Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said that professional women “choose a path to misery” when they prioritize careers over having children in a September 2021 podcast interview in which he also claimed men in America were “suppressed” in their masculinity.

The Ohio senator and vice-presidential candidate said of women like his classmates at Yale Law School that “pursuing racial or gender equity is like the value system that gives their life meaning … [but] they all find that that value system leads to misery”.

Vance also sideswiped the Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar, a one-time Somali refugee, claiming she had shown “ingratitude” to America, and that she “would be living in a craphole” had she not moved to the US.
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SaintK wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:29 am Cunt being a cunt. The orange one has chosen well!!!!
Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said that professional women “choose a path to misery” when they prioritize careers over having children in a September 2021 podcast interview in which he also claimed men in America were “suppressed” in their masculinity.

The Ohio senator and vice-presidential candidate said of women like his classmates at Yale Law School that “pursuing racial or gender equity is like the value system that gives their life meaning … [but] they all find that that value system leads to misery”.

Vance also sideswiped the Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar, a one-time Somali refugee, claiming she had shown “ingratitude” to America, and that she “would be living in a craphole” had she not moved to the US.
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It's no wonder a charmer like him is reduced to fucking couches !
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Apparently the Harris - Walz CNN interview attracted almost double the viewers that Diaper Donnie's last sit down with the network did. That's going to drive him nuts.
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Not surprising, but enlightening...
H.R. McMaster Doesn’t Think Donald Trump Is Very Good at Making Deals

A new memoir by the onetime national security adviser shows how the former president’s insecurities and weaknesses harmed U.S. foreign policy.

Nicolas Niarchos is a freelance journalist whose writing on international relations has appeared in The Nation and The New Yorker.

Aug. 27, 2024



AT WAR WITH OURSELVES: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, by H.R. McMaster

Recently on the campaign trail, Donald Trump has talked up his aggressive stance on China, positioning himself as a tough negotiator in a brutal trade war. But a new memoir by Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, one of Trump’s national security advisers, throws that narrative, and many other stories that Trump tells about his time in office, into stark relief.

As McMaster writes in “At War With Ourselves,” the president could sometimes be kept on the straight and narrow with a clever dose of reverse psychology (Xi Jinping wants you to say this, Xi Jinping wants you to say that). But just as often, McMaster shows Trump to have been an unpredictable waffler who undermined himself to the advantage of his competitors on the world stage.

In November 2017, President Trump visited China on the third leg of a 13-day trip around Asia. It was his “most consequential” destination, McMaster explains. As they flew to Beijing, he warned Trump that Xi would try to trick him into saying something that was good for China, but bad for the United States and its allies. “The C.C.P.’s favorite phrase, ‘win-win,’” he recalls telling his boss at one point, “actually meant that China won twice.”

Trump seemed to hear him, but in the Great Hall of the People, the president strayed from his talking points. He agreed with Xi that military exercises in South Korea were “provocative” and a “waste of money” and suggested that China might have a legitimate claim to Japan’s Senkaku Islands. McMaster, his stomach sinking, passed a note to Gen. John Kelly, the chief of staff: Xi “ate our lunch,” it read.

“At War With Ourselves” is intended to be a companion to “Battlegrounds,” McMaster’s 2020 assessment of U.S. foreign policy backsliding since the Cold War, but it works well as a stand-alone and serves as essential reading for anyone countenancing a potential second round of Trump as a global leader. The general shows how, despite his best efforts to help the president, the supposed master of the “art of the deal” was treated like a “chump” by a roster of the world’s top authoritarians.

Flattery and pomp from leaders like Xi, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Russian president Vladimir V. Putin seem to have been all that was required to get in Trump’s good graces. In 2018, McMaster found Trump in the Oval Office scrawling a cheerful note to Putin across a New York Post article reporting that the Russian president had denigrated the American political system but called Trump a good listener. Like a child with his Christmas wish list, the leader of the free world asked McMaster to send it to the Kremlin. It was especially bad timing: Evidence was coming to light that Putin had directed an assassination on British soil. McMaster did not forward the note, later explaining to an infuriated Trump that his letter would “reinforce the narrative that you are somehow in the Kremlin’s pocket.”

“At War With Ourselves” is beautifully written and never dull. Its author is as concerned with the commander in chief as he is with the destructive bickering among the president’s deputies who hurled “accusations of disloyalty” in their efforts to reach Trump’s ear. In tale after tale, McMaster shows how the former president allowed his own prejudices and the petty rivalries within his administration to undermine his policy goals in what McMaster terms a “vortex of vitriol.” Trump’s “indiscipline,” he writes, “made him the antagonist in his own story.”

The book is rife with literary references to, among others, Chaucer, Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius and Shakespeare. Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist, is described both as Iago, the soldier villain who plays on his leader’s insecurities in “Othello,” and as one of the “weird sisters” who incite Macbeth with splenetic prophecies.

The Shakespearean metaphors only go so far. Does McMaster really think of Trump, like Othello, as a “noble and valiant” outsider who was sadly poisoned by the strain of his office and the selfishness of his officers? The answer is probably not: Beyond having what McMaster terms a “disruptive nature,” it is hard to see what good there was before things got worse. Perhaps McMaster, who served in the military for three and a half decades, can’t shake his basic sense of duty to the presidency — on the final page, he talks about how he hopes young people will take the lesson that there are “tremendous rewards” associated with serving “any administration.”


If McMaster respects the office of the president, the Trump he depicts in the book seems to go out of his way to disrespect it. Time and again, Trump can’t seem to focus on briefings and responds to serious problems with inane suggestions. “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs?” he asks when the conversation turns to Mexico. (McMaster, in an apparent act of self-soothing, suggests that Trump “only” meant to shock his advisers with such statements, but he never seems to ask himself to what end.)

McMaster even traces President Biden’s signature foreign policy failure, the chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal in 2021, to the “atmosphere of inconsistency” promulgated by Trump. What’s more, with the 2024 presidential election in sight, McMaster questions whether the 78-year-old Trump can still “perform well the sometimes grueling job of president.” He notes that the 13-day trip to Asia “tired” him and stretched his patience — and that was seven years ago.

The confusion and capriciousness that permeate the administration in “At War With Ourselves” are terrifying to consider in retrospect; even more so when one imagines them in the context of today’s world, so close to regional wars in the Middle East and the South China Sea.

The message of the book appears to be that Trump is unsuited for another term, although McMaster, known for what the New Yorker writer Patrick Radden Keefe once described as “strenuous expressions of humility,” never explicitly goes so far as to say so, and he even lays some blame on senior advisers like himself. He does, however, indulge in a few rounds of old-school psychoanalyzing. “Seneca emphasized the need to have control over one’s own mind,” he writes, noting that “Trump’s anxieties and insecurities rendered him vulnerable.”

This, as Hamlet might say, is the vicious mole of nature, the thing in Trump that Trump, let alone McMaster, could not tame or fight. In the end, the most Shakespearean character in McMaster’s tragedy might be the general himself. He gave his all to a leader he is convinced is fatally flawed, but whose tempest of energy he never stops believing he can direct toward some greater purpose — only to be summarily fired and discarded thanks to a bickering and back-stabbing cabal, and the man who yields to it.

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Kiwias wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:26 am
Sinkers wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:10 am
I thought this was particularly classy

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TB63 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:55 am
Well to be honest in 15 years time we will probably still be trying to work out if that statement is in anyway from the English language or if it's some sort of orange muttering coda we can't decipher.
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A reasonably serious chat...
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Fucking Hell! He actually posted this....

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The human race is doomed
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sturginho wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:37 am The human race is doomed
Good grief! The man is as mad as a skip of frogs! Having been on many golfing trips to South Carolina however Im pretty sure this will go down well with the gun carrying mad arse MAGAs there. The human race is indeed on the precipice.
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Ah well; easy come, easy go :grin:
The stock price of Donald Trump’s media company is sinking just as the lockup period from its blank-check deal is about to end, potentially flooding a saturated market with even more shares.

Trump Media & Technology Group Corp., which was worth nearly $10 billion in mid-May, has fallen 69% since its market capitalization peaked on May 9 and is now worth less than $3.4 billion. The selloff has accelerated in the past month, with the shares falling in 22 of the 27 sessions through Wednesday’s close and losing more than 45% in the process. That pressure is only expected to increase when the deal lockup expires as soon as Sept. 19 and insiders can start unloading their equity.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ockups-end

In reality the stock of a company that last year had <$5M revenue, & more than $50M in expenses, & no realistic path out of the death spiral is worthless, but there's bound to be plenty of morons who stick it out to the bitter end, while they wait of their Traitor branded Sneakers to come from China, & gaze lovingly at the Traitor Cosplaying as Superman NFT Cards
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What the actual flying fuck is he talking about?..

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This was four years ago; he hasn't gotten any better.

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TB63 wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:39 pm What the actual flying fuck is he talking about?..

Seems straightforward enough: I get in, money comes in, other countries pay that money, that money pays for stuff.

A simple plan in troubled times.
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TB63 wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:39 pm What the actual flying fuck is he talking about?..

People were clapping :crazy:
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Slick wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:42 pm
TB63 wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:39 pm What the actual flying fuck is he talking about?..

People were clapping :crazy:
He will make america great again!
Is all they have heard. That is enough.
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Slick wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:42 pm
TB63 wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:39 pm What the actual flying fuck is he talking about?..

People were clapping :crazy:
Typical stuff for cultists.
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The traitor is going to have to get himself a new pilot, or start taking the bus !



How fucking hard is it to check the chart & understand you stay on the western side of the Potomac, or some Secret Service guy will shove a stinger up your arse !
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The Tenet investigation an indictment needs to be mirrored in Britain.

Who has been accepting Russian money to promote rhetoric that will divide the country?

Who has been involved in pro Russian propaganda?

It has happened and it needs to be rooted out.

I have always seen Russia as The Enemy.

China is a competitor, which has a different dynamic. It's a dynamic that can still lead to conflict, and full on global war, but it's a different dynamic to Russia. They're flat out just the enemy in my book.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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It's quaint looking back at the Coen brothers filum Burn After Reading and how it laughed at the notion of Russia being "the enemy".
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:10 pm The traitor is going to have to get himself a new pilot, or start taking the bus !



How fucking hard is it to check the chart & understand you stay on the western side of the Potomac, or some Secret Service guy will shove a stinger up your arse !
Simple.. Drump ordered that the pilot take that route, if the warnings were a lot more forceful, he'd have claimed Biden ordered his plane out of airspace..
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TB63 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 6:35 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:10 pm The traitor is going to have to get himself a new pilot, or start taking the bus !



How fucking hard is it to check the chart & understand you stay on the western side of the Potomac, or some Secret Service guy will shove a stinger up your arse !
Simple.. Drump ordered that the pilot take that route, if the warnings were a lot more forceful, he'd have claimed Biden ordered his plane out of airspace..
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Goodie !!!, more damages !
Donald Trump delivered stinging criticisms against writer E Jean Carroll moments after his lawyers attempted to overturn a $5m ruling that he defamed and sexually assaulted her.

"I've never met this woman," Trump said in New York on Friday. "It's a made up fabricated story by someone looking to promote a book."

In May 2023, a jury found Trump was liable for sexual assault and handed him a lofty $5m (£3.8m) fine.

Trump sat in court as his lawyers on Friday tried to reverse that decision, one of two in which he was accused by Ms Carroll of sexual assault and defamation.

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I hope every penny the loathsome, rapist, fraudster, traitorous cunt gets from his moronic supporters goes towards damages to those he's harmed over his ill-begotton life !
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The judge overseeing Donald J. Trump’s criminal case in Manhattan postponed his sentencing until after Election Day, a significant victory for the former president as he seeks to overturn his conviction and win back the White House.

In a ruling on Friday, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, rescheduled the sentencing for Nov. 26, citing the “unique time frame this matter currently finds itself in.” He had previously planned to hand down Mr. Trump’s punishment on Sept. 18, just seven weeks before Election Day, when Mr. Trump will face off against Vice President Kamala Harris for the presidency.

“This is not a decision this court makes lightly but it is the decision which in this court’s view, best advances the interests of justice,” Justice Merchan wrote in the four-page ruling, which noted that “this matter is one that stands alone, in a unique place in this nation’s history.”

The judge appeared eager to skirt a swirl of partisan second-guessing in the campaign’s final stretch. Asserting that the court is a “fair, impartial and apolitical institution,” he said that “the integrity of our judicial system demands” that the sentencing be “free from distraction or distortion.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/06/nyre ... uling.html
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:46 pm
The judge overseeing Donald J. Trump’s criminal case in Manhattan postponed his sentencing until after Election Day, a significant victory for the former president as he seeks to overturn his conviction and win back the White House.

In a ruling on Friday, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, rescheduled the sentencing for Nov. 26, citing the “unique time frame this matter currently finds itself in.” He had previously planned to hand down Mr. Trump’s punishment on Sept. 18, just seven weeks before Election Day, when Mr. Trump will face off against Vice President Kamala Harris for the presidency.

“This is not a decision this court makes lightly but it is the decision which in this court’s view, best advances the interests of justice,” Justice Merchan wrote in the four-page ruling, which noted that “this matter is one that stands alone, in a unique place in this nation’s history.”

The judge appeared eager to skirt a swirl of partisan second-guessing in the campaign’s final stretch. Asserting that the court is a “fair, impartial and apolitical institution,” he said that “the integrity of our judicial system demands” that the sentencing be “free from distraction or distortion.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/06/nyre ... uling.html
I know the lackeys will present this as some sort of win for the felon (looking at you BBC !), but lets face it; the various vegetables who voted for 'it' in the last two elections, wil vote for 'it' again, so the impact of any delay is only about the people who aren't automatically going to be voting for rapey-Mc-Traitory anyway, & for them the hanging question of whether or not their vote may be for someone with yet another serious charge, & one concerned with the fundametals of Election interference ?

I think leaving the charge hanging must ultimately be much worse than a decision either way, because the polls already show people who aren't in MAGA think the worst of it already, so any change can only be positive; plus not having a decision leaves that sword of Damocles hanging over his pale, flabby neck !
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:50 pm It's quaint looking back at the Coen brothers filum Burn After Reading and how it laughed at the notion of Russia being "the enemy".
'The Russians?'

Portrait of Putin smirking at our slow decline takes on more meaning these days. Brilliant.
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fishfoodie wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:16 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:46 pm
The judge overseeing Donald J. Trump’s criminal case in Manhattan postponed his sentencing until after Election Day, a significant victory for the former president as he seeks to overturn his conviction and win back the White House.

In a ruling on Friday, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, rescheduled the sentencing for Nov. 26, citing the “unique time frame this matter currently finds itself in.” He had previously planned to hand down Mr. Trump’s punishment on Sept. 18, just seven weeks before Election Day, when Mr. Trump will face off against Vice President Kamala Harris for the presidency.

“This is not a decision this court makes lightly but it is the decision which in this court’s view, best advances the interests of justice,” Justice Merchan wrote in the four-page ruling, which noted that “this matter is one that stands alone, in a unique place in this nation’s history.”

The judge appeared eager to skirt a swirl of partisan second-guessing in the campaign’s final stretch. Asserting that the court is a “fair, impartial and apolitical institution,” he said that “the integrity of our judicial system demands” that the sentencing be “free from distraction or distortion.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/06/nyre ... uling.html
I know the lackeys will present this as some sort of win for the felon (looking at you BBC !), but lets face it; the various vegetables who voted for 'it' in the last two elections, wil vote for 'it' again, so the impact of any delay is only about the people who aren't automatically going to be voting for rapey-Mc-Traitory anyway, & for them the hanging question of whether or not their vote may be for someone with yet another serious charge, & one concerned with the fundametals of Election interference ?

I think leaving the charge hanging must ultimately be much worse than a decision either way, because the polls already show people who aren't in MAGA think the worst of it already, so any change can only be positive; plus not having a decision leaves that sword of Damocles hanging over his pale, flabby neck !
Yeah, I posted something similar at the other place. It's stated as a Trump win but think it benefits the Dems. It's something Trump would get enormous free press over, able to paint himself the victim and get some traction outside of the MAGA base which so far he's failed to do.
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You know the world has moved on its axis when Dick Cheney (yes, that evil, hardcore right winger Dick Cheney) is accused by †rump of being a RINO after Cheney stated that he will be voting for Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/irrele ... al-tirade/
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Change the record DonOld..

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Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:50 am You know the world has moved on its axis when Dick Cheney (yes, that evil, hardcore right winger Dick Cheney) is accused by †rump of being a RINO after Cheney stated that he will be voting for Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/irrele ... al-tirade/
Is Cheney (Dick) well respected by your average Republican? ie, will this make a blind bit of difference to the base or anyone who was going to vote for the organge cunt
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Slick wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:03 pm
Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:50 am You know the world has moved on its axis when Dick Cheney (yes, that evil, hardcore right winger Dick Cheney) is accused by †rump of being a RINO after Cheney stated that he will be voting for Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/irrele ... al-tirade/
Is Cheney (Dick) well respected by your average Republican? ie, will this make a blind bit of difference to the base or anyone who was going to vote for the organge cunt
Old school Republicans yes but they are an endangered species these days. MAGA Republicans hate him even more than the Democrats.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:52 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:03 pm
Kiwias wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:50 am You know the world has moved on its axis when Dick Cheney (yes, that evil, hardcore right winger Dick Cheney) is accused by †rump of being a RINO after Cheney stated that he will be voting for Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/06/irrele ... al-tirade/
Is Cheney (Dick) well respected by your average Republican? ie, will this make a blind bit of difference to the base or anyone who was going to vote for the organge cunt
Old school Republicans yes but they are an endangered species these days. MAGA Republicans hate him even more than the Democrats.

Yeah the Tea Party made a huge deal of the "RINOs" and it's been bought hook line and sinker by those who support Trump, as far as I can see.
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