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clydecloggie wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:27 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:19 pm So farewell to Ritchie , we often bandy around with the term Legend - but in Scotstoun that’s exactly what Ritchie was, he will be sorely missed, but every Glasgow Fan wishes him the best on what should be a lucrative end to his career. I’m sure we will see him back at Glasgow in the stands at some time in the future, like Bob Harley was against Zebre this month.

As far as the Stormers game was concerned, an efficient performance but not outstanding, the first half was far too loose from Franco’s point of view.

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Glasgow have become a fully 80-minute team now.

Hastings still not fully up to speed Glasgow play at, it’s small margins – hopefully with more game time that will improve, I sometimes wonder if he still does not yet trust his body.

Jordan – I always suspected that he was more a natural 12, now I am much less sure, and that 10 really is his best position, his weaknesses, kicking from hand , and decision making have improved immeasurably since he first started at Glasgow.

Rowe, again continues to improve his game, his handling / concentration sometimes still isn’t quite up there but he impresses me more and more.
It's a shame his "tribute to Finn, deceive with the eyes, no look tip pass" to Sione was marginally forward - that was a great bit of play.
It almost was, but I can't think of a 10 that throws more forward passes than Hastings. I remember his first year with Glasgow I put it down to him needing to mature, being too eager etc. He's older now, but I still think his timing at times can just be a smidge off, it's frustrating. That ball could've been given flat or backwards and the break would still have been on. Perhaps I'm being too harsh but it just seems to happen too much with him.
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clydecloggie wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:27 pm
Dogbert wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:19 pm So farewell to Ritchie , we often bandy around with the term Legend - but in Scotstoun that’s exactly what Ritchie was, he will be sorely missed, but every Glasgow Fan wishes him the best on what should be a lucrative end to his career. I’m sure we will see him back at Glasgow in the stands at some time in the future, like Bob Harley was against Zebre this month.

As far as the Stormers game was concerned, an efficient performance but not outstanding, the first half was far too loose from Franco’s point of view.

Musings
Glasgow have become a fully 80-minute team now.

Hastings still not fully up to speed Glasgow play at, it’s small margins – hopefully with more game time that will improve, I sometimes wonder if he still does not yet trust his body.

Jordan – I always suspected that he was more a natural 12, now I am much less sure, and that 10 really is his best position, his weaknesses, kicking from hand , and decision making have improved immeasurably since he first started at Glasgow.

Rowe, again continues to improve his game, his handling / concentration sometimes still isn’t quite up there but he impresses me more and more.
It's a shame his "tribute to Finn, deceive with the eyes, no look tip pass" to Sione was marginally forward - that was a great bit of play.
That 'try' had me on my feet cheering before I realised it was a forward pass! Excellent play, skillful and creative. Unfortunately that type of move seemed light years beyond the Embra backs on Saturday who struggled to ship a pass laterally without drawing a defender! Never has the chasm between Embra and Weegie backs play been so so big!
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Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:45 am Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
After the way he reacted to the Semi defeat to Warriors he should avoid being anywhere near Edinburgh before the 1872 matches at least. I was seriously worried about the guys mental state after the post match press conference that night 😉
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Pro-academy players Euan McVie and Tom Currie have both joined English Championship side Doncaster Knights on a short-term loan
This suggests to me that there aren't any more "A" games coming up for a while and they want these players getting game time.
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Tichtheid wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:10 am
Pro-academy players Euan McVie and Tom Currie have both joined English Championship side Doncaster Knights on a short-term loan
This suggests to me that there aren't any more "A" games coming up for a while and they want these players getting game time.
Different types of pressure which won't do them any harm at all. Doncaster are firmly in bottom half of the table so will be good to see how they get on.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:45 am Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
I'd have made the phone call this morning.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:45 am Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
It'd be worth speaking to him at the very least. Not sure what's happened there, I know they've lost a couple of players, but he's had a good record previously.
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:34 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:45 am Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
It'd be worth speaking to him at the very least. Not sure what's happened there, I know they've lost a couple of players, but he's had a good record previously.
Sounds like he told PoM and some of the older players he wouldn't be picking them much this season and they undermined him. The dinosaur blazer brigade did the rest
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SaintK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:39 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:34 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:45 am Rowntree sacked by Munster. If you had the choice to swap out Everett for him would you take it? For me, absolutely yes.
It'd be worth speaking to him at the very least. Not sure what's happened there, I know they've lost a couple of players, but he's had a good record previously.
Sounds like he told PoM and some of the older players he wouldn't be picking them much this season and they undermined him. The dinosaur blazer brigade did the rest
Embra are needing some of the big names dropped tbf.
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:28 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:39 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:34 pm

It'd be worth speaking to him at the very least. Not sure what's happened there, I know they've lost a couple of players, but he's had a good record previously.
Sounds like he told PoM and some of the older players he wouldn't be picking them much this season and they undermined him. The dinosaur blazer brigade did the rest
Embra are needing some of the big names dropped tbf.
And they'd also soon undermine him and have the blazers sack him afterwards.
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I like neeps wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:56 pm
Jock42 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:28 pm
SaintK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:39 pm
Sounds like he told PoM and some of the older players he wouldn't be picking them much this season and they undermined him. The dinosaur blazer brigade did the rest
Embra are needing some of the big names dropped tbf.
And they'd also soon undermine him and have the blazers sack him afterwards.
Probably
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Slick wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:51 am
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Biffer wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:03 am

Saying ‘he’s had time off’ to describe a long term injury is more than a bit wank.
Comes across as very stroppy and petulant from Townsend. I thought he was saying "angry" at Bordeaux at first, but then read further. He's probably saying it at both.

I reckon Gray Jnr still has something to offer and I hope this doesn't become one of those face doesn't fit any more things.
Having seen the video now he seems pissed of with the club rather than the player. The suggestion seems to be that the club have twisted his arm, which must be incredibly frustrating
Just watched it too, completely agree. Don't have much of a problem with what Townsend has said now having watched the clip.
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C T wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:28 am
Slick wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:51 am
C T wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:13 am

Comes across as very stroppy and petulant from Townsend. I thought he was saying "angry" at Bordeaux at first, but then read further. He's probably saying it at both.

I reckon Gray Jnr still has something to offer and I hope this doesn't become one of those face doesn't fit any more things.
Having seen the video now he seems pissed of with the club rather than the player. The suggestion seems to be that the club have twisted his arm, which must be incredibly frustrating
Just watched it too, completely agree. Don't have much of a problem with what Townsend has said now having watched the clip.
Wonder if he had an international release clause in his contract?
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SaintK wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:22 am
C T wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:28 am
Slick wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:51 am

Having seen the video now he seems pissed of with the club rather than the player. The suggestion seems to be that the club have twisted his arm, which must be incredibly frustrating
Just watched it too, completely agree. Don't have much of a problem with what Townsend has said now having watched the clip.
Wonder if he had an international release clause in his contract?

Officially that would be against World Rugby roolz, but there are tales of players being "persuaded" to turn down international duty.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:32 am
SaintK wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:22 am
C T wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:28 am

Just watched it too, completely agree. Don't have much of a problem with what Townsend has said now having watched the clip.
Wonder if he had an international release clause in his contract?

Officially that would be against World Rugby roolz, but there are tales of players being "persuaded" to turn down international duty.
Aaaaah of course!
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Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?
I have, in the past, taken BT Sport for a month or two to watch particular things.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?

What broadband network are you on?

Virgin do a monthly rolling contract for £18 for TNT. They also do Premier Sports for £13, again 30 day rolling monthly contract.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:10 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?

What broadband network are you on?

Virgin do a monthly rolling contract for £18 for TNT. They also do Premier Sports for £13, again 30 day rolling monthly contract.
Ah, interesting - I am indeed on Virgin. I'll check that out. I don't have a telly package though so it might not apply to me.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:13 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:10 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?

What broadband network are you on?

Virgin do a monthly rolling contract for £18 for TNT. They also do Premier Sports for £13, again 30 day rolling monthly contract.
Ah, interesting - I am indeed on Virgin. I'll check that out. I don't have a telly package though so it might not apply to me.
Haha, just looked. They want me to pay £5 a month for all the freeview channels like BBC and ITV on a 12 month contract before they will let me take TNT for one month at £18. What nonsense.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:17 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:13 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:10 pm


What broadband network are you on?

Virgin do a monthly rolling contract for £18 for TNT. They also do Premier Sports for £13, again 30 day rolling monthly contract.
Ah, interesting - I am indeed on Virgin. I'll check that out. I don't have a telly package though so it might not apply to me.
Haha, just looked. They want me to pay £5 a month for all the freeview channels like BBC and ITV on a 12 month contract before they will let me take TNT for one month at £18. What nonsense.


Ah, that's a shame. I was moving house just as my contract was coming to an end so when I phoned Virgin I initially got a 65% discount on broadband with tv and when I added back in TNT and Premier it still came to a 25% discount on what I was previously paying.

TNT comes with the Eng premiership games too, but it does eat up a lot of time watching rugby, especially now that I can watch my local club (who are a much better watch than Edinburgh)
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:39 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:17 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:13 pm

Ah, interesting - I am indeed on Virgin. I'll check that out. I don't have a telly package though so it might not apply to me.
Haha, just looked. They want me to pay £5 a month for all the freeview channels like BBC and ITV on a 12 month contract before they will let me take TNT for one month at £18. What nonsense.


Ah, that's a shame. I was moving house just as my contract was coming to an end so when I phoned Virgin I initially got a 65% discount on broadband with tv and when I added back in TNT and Premier it still came to a 25% discount on what I was previously paying.

TNT comes with the Eng premiership games too, but it does eat up a lot of time watching rugby, especially now that I can watch my local club (who are a much better watch than Edinburgh)
I think I'll wander along to watch Panmurefield get horsed rather than embra for a while.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:39 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:17 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:13 pm

Ah, interesting - I am indeed on Virgin. I'll check that out. I don't have a telly package though so it might not apply to me.
Haha, just looked. They want me to pay £5 a month for all the freeview channels like BBC and ITV on a 12 month contract before they will let me take TNT for one month at £18. What nonsense.


Ah, that's a shame. I was moving house just as my contract was coming to an end so when I phoned Virgin I initially got a 65% discount on broadband with tv and when I added back in TNT and Premier it still came to a 25% discount on what I was previously paying.

TNT comes with the Eng premiership games too, but it does eat up a lot of time watching rugby, especially now that I can watch my local club (who are a much better watch than Edinburgh)
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm Have any of you taken a TNT sports subscription for a single month before? It seems the subscription is £30 but on a monthly renewal basis so it is possible to subscribe and watch the autumn nations matches without taking a 12 month subscription?
I was looking last night and I can get it as a monthly bolt on to Amazon Prime which we have for some reason I’m not entirely familiar with
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Cheers Slick.

Does anyone know when the team for Fiji is announced? We always seem to leave it until the last possible minute
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:03 pm Cheers Slick.

Does anyone know when the team for Fiji is announced? We always seem to leave it until the last possible minute
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:03 pm Cheers Slick.

Does anyone know when the team for Fiji is announced? We always seem to leave it until the last possible minute
Quite impressed that we’ve sold out against Fiji. I took my boys to see us play Fiji the last time they were in town, and I don’t reckon the crowd was over 50k.
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15. Rowe
14. Graham
13. Jones
12. Tuipulotu
11. Van der Merwe
10. Hastings
9. Price

1. Schoeman
2. Ashman
3. Z Fagerson
4. Gilchrist
5. Cummings
6. M Fagerson
7. Darge
8. Dempsey

16. Richardson
17. Sutherland
18. Rae
19. Williamson
20. Brown
21. Dobie
22. Jordan
23. McDowall
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I'm surprised he's gone full noise, allowing for Finn, Kinghorn and White
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:07 pm I'm surprised he's gone full noise, allowing for Finn, Kinghorn and White
Does this mean Price is still next scrum half in line? Not seen much of White lately I admit, but I was hoping Horne/Dobbie may get a look in.
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C T wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:09 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:07 pm I'm surprised he's gone full noise, allowing for Finn, Kinghorn and White
Does this mean Price is still next scrum half in line? Not seen much of White lately I admit, but I was hoping Horne/Dobbie may get a look in.

I don't know what the thinking is, but we don't see how they train or know what Toonie has in mind. I think Jordan has been in much better form than Hastings for example, but Townsend won't know him as well as AH and it's a big call to start someone at ten on their debut
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C T wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:09 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:07 pm I'm surprised he's gone full noise, allowing for Finn, Kinghorn and White
Does this mean Price is still next scrum half in line? Not seen much of White lately I admit, but I was hoping Horne/Dobbie may get a look in.
Ben will still be with Toulon this weekend so I expect him and wee George against Saffers next weekend
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It's quite a small back 3 taking on the Fijians!

Delighted for Jordan, hope he gets more than 5 minutes.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:17 pm
C T wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:09 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:07 pm I'm surprised he's gone full noise, allowing for Finn, Kinghorn and White
Does this mean Price is still next scrum half in line? Not seen much of White lately I admit, but I was hoping Horne/Dobbie may get a look in.

I don't know what the thinking is, but we don't see how they train or know what Toonie has in mind. I think Jordan has been in much better form than Hastings for example, but Townsend won't know him as well as AH and it's a big call to start someone at ten on their debut
Can Jordan start without a reliable kicker on the pitch?
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Slick wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:27 pm My one man boycott of South African rugby has crumpled in the face of a spot of hospitality and a free ticket
To be fair you sold out for a good price.
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I am hoping we start to see Darge ascend to be what we hope he can be at international level which is top class. For whatever reason I don't think we have consistently seen him hit the heights at international level yet. Not a criticism at all, just hoping to see him take that next step that we have seen Russell, Hogg, Tuipulotu and one or two others take over the years.
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Big D wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:37 pm
Slick wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:27 pm My one man boycott of South African rugby has crumpled in the face of a spot of hospitality and a free ticket
To be fair you sold out for a good price.
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