England vs All Blacks + Munster vs ABs XV

[el capitan]

Once again England mess the bed with victory in sight. Front row subs, halfbacks, and negative tactics cost us in those last few minutes.

Ford should have kicked the pen, but the drop goal set up from the forwards was barmy and the pass appalling.

Remain totally unconvinced by Scabbers and this England team. A lot of it is just based on run hard and put some effort in. Allow them to play rugby in patches. Anti-rugby and smashing the ball away is never too far off the agenda. This NZ team is a) hardly of vintage quality and b) haven't really stuck a proper coherent performance against us. To go 0-3 against them in the last few months isn't great really.

[Deepsouth]

Razor looks like a blonde Hitler

More Red Baron, than Adolf I would have thought....

[tc27]

Razor looks like a blonde Hitler

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[Gumboot]

Ah well, not a very compelling curtain raiser, but hopefully the main event between Munster and the B XXIII is more entertaining.

[Blackmac]

I really think that is the poorest All Black team I have ever seen. Not saying they wouldn't beat us, but by their standards, very poor.

[Slick]

First game for a while for England so can’t be too disappointed I guess. I saying that, I think that’s one of the worst All Black teams I’ve seen, loads of great players but so many mistakes

[Uncle fester]

Hard luck Saes. NZ have to be the jammiest team around for those late, tight ones.

[Paddington Bear]

Should have won that. Two shots at it.

Great game of rugby

[Enzedder]

Hard luck Saes. NZ have to be the jammiest team around for those late, tight ones.

3 tries to one from an intercept. Nah, would have been dumb to lose it (what was the penalty count because we were nearly dumb enough?)

[Enzedder]

Use this thread for the Munster game?

[Gumboot]

Use this thread for the Munster game?

Yep, Munster starting well... until these penalties.

[Guy Smiley]

The next AB 10 showing some huge defensive capacity against Munster so far

[PCPhil]

Well done NZ deserved. We haven't had a decent centre partnership since Greenwood and Tndall.

[Uncle fester]

Use this thread for the Munster game?

Update on thread title?

[Certain Navigator]

That'll do.

Was always going to be another tight one between these teams.

Fair fucks England, the smarter side and largely played the game on their terms. Unlucky not to win it.

All Blacks largely woeful yet again. So many penalties conceded, and so many botched chances... just not good enough.

'Unlucky' I guess in the sense they didn't take full advantage of the ABs stupidity. The ABs played all the rugby; unfortunately they also played all the dumb stuff. It certainly didn't help losing Taylor in the first 5 minutes.

[JM2K6]

Hard luck Saes. NZ have to be the jammiest team around for those late, tight ones.

3 tries to one from an intercept. Nah, would have been dumb to lose it (what was the penalty count because we were nearly dumb enough?)

England 7 New Zealand 11 on penalties. NZ were content to shut down attacks by taking out the supporting players

[Slick]

Could we change this thread title to Autumn Internationals?

[Gumboot]

Munster scrum getting monstered.

[Enzedder]

Hard luck Saes. NZ have to be the jammiest team around for those late, tight ones.

3 tries to one from an intercept. Nah, would have been dumb to lose it (what was the penalty count because we were nearly dumb enough?)

England 7 New Zealand 11 on penalties. NZ were content to shut down attacks by taking out the supporting players

That was an interesting facet. Those players were right up level with the ball (in one case in front of it). I would like to promote a case of English obstruction.

I was also disappointed that the deliberate maul obstruction by the English wasn't penalised. At one time they actually knocked the ball away from the scrummy they were so far offside. Far too slow getting out of the way and when they do it's towards our line, not the touch line.

[Uncle fester]

The scrum is just

[Sandstorm]

Could we change this thread title to Autumn Internationals?

Whoever change this thread title needs a needle in his right eyeball!

[Uncle fester]

Munster scrum getting monstered.

It's diabolical. Both props are tightheads btw.

[Uncle fester]

Could we change this thread title to Autumn Internationals?

Whoever change this thread title needs a needle in his right eyeball!

Yeah, who on earth came up with that stupid idea?

[PCPhil]

3 tries to one from an intercept. Nah, would have been dumb to lose it (what was the penalty count because we were nearly dumb enough?)

England 7 New Zealand 11 on penalties. NZ were content to shut down attacks by taking out the supporting players

That was an interesting facet. Those players were right up level with the ball (in one case in front of it). I would like to promote a case of English obstruction.

I was also disappointed that the deliberate maul obstruction by the English wasn't penalised. At one time they actually knocked the ball away from the scrummy they were so far offside. Far too slow getting out of the way and when they do it's towards our line, not the touch line.

Bollox

[JM2K6]

3 tries to one from an intercept. Nah, would have been dumb to lose it (what was the penalty count because we were nearly dumb enough?)

England 7 New Zealand 11 on penalties. NZ were content to shut down attacks by taking out the supporting players

That was an interesting facet. Those players were right up level with the ball (in one case in front of it). I would like to promote a case of English obstruction.

I was also disappointed that the deliberate maul obstruction by the English wasn't penalised. At one time they actually knocked the ball away from the scrummy they were so far offside. Far too slow getting out of the way and when they do it's towards our line, not the touch line.

At no point was a supporting player taken out ahead of the ball. And I don't think you understand the maul laws because that complaint sounds like something out of the 90s.


Who's the Scottish cheerleader on comms in this game?

[Certain Navigator]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

[Gumboot]

Could we change this thread title to Autumn Internationals?

Whoever change this thread title needs a needle in his right eyeball!

Yeah, who on earth came up with that stupid idea?

[Uncle fester]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

[Guy Smiley]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

They've been doing a great job of naming them so far.

Penalty try

[Uncle fester]

Get in!

[JM2K6]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

Indeed, you usually leave that to the IRFU scouts

[Gumboot]

Enjoying this game. Great to see Munster have come to play. Whopper Macintosh is really making a name for himself as a scrum coach.

[fishfoodie]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

Indeed, you usually leave that to the IRFU scouts

I think the IRFU usually starts at about number 72, because they're the guys who know they haven't a chance, but they still have enough desire

[Uncle fester]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

Indeed, you usually leave that to the IRFU scouts

That Welsh winger of yours looks handy.

[OomStruisbaai]

Springboks will have to be on their best to beat England.

[JM2K6]

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

Indeed, you usually leave that to the IRFU scouts

That Welsh winger of yours looks handy.

From the Cardiff Feyi-Waboso dynasty

[Uncle fester]

Jesus, that scrum

[OomStruisbaai]

Score?

[Slick]

These Irish commentators don't seem to know the name of a single NZ player.

Are they supposed to know the names of the 24th-46th most talented players in NZ?

Indeed, you usually leave that to the IRFU scouts

[Uncle fester]

Score?

21 - 17 to AB's