Scotland vs Springboks

[LoveOfTheGame]

Having watched Scotland live last weekend - admittedly through pub crawl eyes - SA will demolish them. Too big, too fast and too strong.

Yep. This false modesty on the part of springbok fans is just such a pile of wank.

False modesty my ass, were just giving credit where it's due. Not our fault Scotland fans are just not accustomed to getting it. I'd blame your 6N brothers and sisters.

[Sandstorm]

Having watched Scotland live last weekend - admittedly through pub crawl eyes - SA will demolish them. Too big, too fast and too strong.

Yep. This false modesty on the part of springbok fans is just such a pile of wank.

False modesty my ass, were just giving credit where it's due. Not our fault Scotland fans are just not accustomed to getting it. I'd blame your 6N brothers and sisters.

Yup, people see the Boks at their best demolishing everyone and think we play like that for the whole season....we don't. We inexplicably fail to turn up at least twice every year.

[bok_viking]

That's a real shame for Nortje, he's done so well to push his way into the team with some serious depth. I heard he was going to start against Scotland.

But not a bad replacement to call up.

Yeah hope it is not to serious and he gets back quickly. We have had several locks on very lengthy injuries over the last couple of years. Luckily we have some serious depth in that position.

[Biffer]

Yep. This false modesty on the part of springbok fans is just such a pile of wank.

False modesty my ass, were just giving credit where it's due. Not our fault Scotland fans are just not accustomed to getting it. I'd blame your 6N brothers and sisters.

Yup, people see the Boks at their best demolishing everyone and think we play like that for the whole season....we don't. We inexplicably fail to turn up at least twice every year.

Wow, occasionally you don't turn up. We didn't turn up for ten fucking years.

[S/Lt_Phillips]

False modesty my ass, were just giving credit where it's due. Not our fault Scotland fans are just not accustomed to getting it. I'd blame your 6N brothers and sisters.

Yup, people see the Boks at their best demolishing everyone and think we play like that for the whole season....we don't. We inexplicably fail to turn up at least twice every year.

Wow, occasionally you don't turn up. We didn't turn up for ten fucking years.

Now we just go missing for at least 20 mins every single game

[Slick]

Can anyone translate this?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... s-personal

I think he is trying to be the nice guy but doesn't pull it off.

[boere wors]

It's actually looking quite nice for Sunday at the moment.

15 degrees, sunny, bit of a wind but nothing much. It will change though.

Just checked the weather app. Decent, calm weather the whole week

It's changing...

You called it

[Biffer]

Can anyone translate this?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... s-personal

I think he is trying to be the nice guy but doesn't pull it off.

Rassie trying to play the victim card, purely for domestic consumption back in SA. His own supporters will eat it up and pretend it's him making a real effort but until he shows any genuine thought for his past bullshit he is still a dick.

Sponsorship deal might have something to do with it as well - major brands don't want to be associated with some of the shit he's pulled.

[Sandstorm]

until he shows any genuine thought for his past bullshit he is still a dick.

He won't do that until he retires and writes a book. No active coach would ever apologise in a believable manner. That's for your golden years.....

[Biffer]

until he shows any genuine thought for his past bullshit he is still a dick.

He won't do that until he retires and writes a book. No active coach would ever apologise in a believable manner. That's for your golden years.....

No, he'll never do it because he genuinely, in his heart of hearts, doesn't think he's done anything to apologise for.

[Sandstorm]

until he shows any genuine thought for his past bullshit he is still a dick.

He won't do that until he retires and writes a book. No active coach would ever apologise in a believable manner. That's for your golden years.....

No, he'll never do it because he genuinely, in his heart of hearts, doesn't think he's done anything to apologise for.

You know what he’s thinking? Impressive

[Biffer]

He won't do that until he retires and writes a book. No active coach would ever apologise in a believable manner. That's for your golden years.....

No, he'll never do it because he genuinely, in his heart of hearts, doesn't think he's done anything to apologise for.

You know what he’s thinking? Impressive

Just like you did in the post I replied to. Jeez.

[OomStruisbaai]

Can anyone translate this?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... s-personal

I think he is trying to be the nice guy but doesn't pull it off.

Well he don't have to. Rugby in South Africa is huge. It's sort of the only thing that works well. The proof is in the pudding, created by Rassie. He has been different from his starting days at the Cheetahs. The sort of the unknown that is coming. The highest trees catches the strongest winds. Long may this continue.

[OomStruisbaai]

There is a big Rassie influence in Scottish rugby. Called Franco Smith. Real Vrystaters. From the same coaching structures.

[OomStruisbaai]

https://x.com/SSRugby/status/1854417821 ... Ractw&s=19

[boere wors]

That's a real shame for Nortje, he's done so well to push his way into the team with some serious depth. I heard he was going to start against Scotland.

But not a bad replacement to call up.

Yeah, really unfortunate for him. I also think he would have been the starting 5 for the boks this tour.

[OomStruisbaai]

Springboks look like playing two different starting teams. England in 6 days. Will be interesting to see the which one is an A or B team. Against Scotland I heard through the vineyards it will be
Willie le Roux, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Pollard, Reinach, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, Mostert, Wilco, Bongi,Ox
England
Fassie, Kolbey, Kriel, Ellende, KLA, Libbok, Hendricks, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, RG, Wilco, Marx, Ox

[Slick]

until he shows any genuine thought for his past bullshit he is still a dick.

He won't do that until he retires and writes a book. No active coach would ever apologise in a believable manner. That's for your golden years.....

No, he'll never do it because he genuinely, in his heart of hearts, doesn't think he's done anything to apologise for.

I think he probably does, but he is also a deity in SA which doesn't give him much wiggle room. His constant hinting at being a bit sorry followed by doubling down on the SA/Millwall spirit so what can we do, is extremely irritating.

[Slick]

Springboks look like playing two different starting teams. England in 6 days. Will be interesting to see the which one is an A or B team. Against Scotland I heard through the vineyards it will be
Willie le Roux, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Pollard, Reinach, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, Mostert, Wilco, Bongi,Ox
England
Fassie, Kolbey, Kriel, Ellende, KLA, Libbok, Hendricks, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, RG, Wilco, Marx, Ox

Looks weeeeaa......... ahh fuck.

[Sandstorm]

Springboks look like playing two different starting teams. England in 6 days. Will be interesting to see the which one is an A or B team. Against Scotland I heard through the vineyards it will be
Willie le Roux, Mapimpi, Am, AE, Moodie, Pollard, Reinach, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, Mostert, Wilco, Bongi,Ox
England
Fassie, Kolbey, Kriel, Ellende, KLA, Libbok, Hendricks, Wiese, PSdT, Kolisi, Etsebeth, RG, Wilco, Marx, Ox

Looks weeeeaa......... ahh fuck.

[OomStruisbaai]

Huw Jones

[charltom]

Huw Jones

Enjoyed that, thanks!

[assfly]

Just announce the teams FFS.

[Slick]

Another consequence of a Sunday game, just been into town and didn’t see a single Bokke jersey. No doubt not wanting to waste a days holiday so all arriving tomorrow. It’s a shame, should be building nicely

[OomStruisbaai]

Another consequence of a Sunday game, just been into town and didn’t see a single Bokke jersey. No doubt not wanting to waste a days holiday so all arriving tomorrow. It’s a shame, should be building nicely

Do you usually see Bok jerseys in town?

The Boland towns usually black out on a saturday IF the All Blacks won. You need to switch on your head lights going to town.

[Slick]

Another consequence of a Sunday game, just been into town and didn’t see a single Bokke jersey. No doubt not wanting to waste a days holiday so all arriving tomorrow. It’s a shame, should be building nicely

Do you usually see Bok jerseys in town?

The Boland towns usually black out on a saturday IF the All Blacks won. You need to switch on your head lights going to town.

The will be a few thousand Bokke supporters up for this one so I would expect we will see loads tomorrow.

Back in the 90’s for Welsh games you could get 10-15,000 Welsh supporters up here for the 6Nations, most without tickets but just up for the weekend. Princes Street would be a mass of red from about Wednesday. Great days

[OomStruisbaai]

Springbok team to face Scotland in Edinburgh:
15 – Willie le Roux (Vodacom Bulls) – 97 caps, 75 pts (15t)
14 – Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls) – 11 caps, 25 pts (5t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 40 caps, 35 pts (7t)
12 – Andre Esterhuizen (Hollywoodbets Sharks) - 18 caps, 0 pts
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 45 caps, 150 points (30t)
10 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 77 caps, 755 points (7t, 105c, 165p, 5dg)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 18 caps, 19 pts (2t, 3c, 1p)

8 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 49 caps, 45 points (9t)
7 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 10 caps, 0 points
6 – Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 23 caps, 10 pts (2t)
5 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 76 caps, 15 points (3t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (captain, Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 128 caps, 30 points (6t)
3 – Thomas du Toit (Bath) – 21 caps, 0 pts
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 75 caps, 75 points (15t)
1 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 37 caps, 0 points

Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 73 caps, 105 points (21t)
17 – Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls) – 8 caps, 0 points
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 58 caps, 0 points
19 – RG Snyman (Leinster) – 37 caps, 10 points (2t)
20 – Siya Kolisi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 89 caps, 60 points (12t)
21 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 84 caps, 55 points (11t)
22 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 31 caps, 5 points (1t)
23 – Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 15 caps, 10 points (2t)

Stats and facts:

Springbok record against Scotland:
Played 29, Won 24, Lost 5. Points for: 760, Points against: 324. Tries scored: 92, Tries conceded: 32. Highest score 68, Biggest win 58 points, Average score: 26-11. Win %: 82.7%.

Miscellaneous:

The Springboks have won eight successive Tests against Scotland since losing 21-17 at Murrayfield in 2010 – their only defeat in the past 16 meetings between the teams.
The Springboks have won eight out of 10 matches in 2024 by an average score of 34-17 and averaging four tries to two.
Kwagga Smith will earn his 50th Test cap.
Willie le Roux will be only two appearances away from becoming the eighth Springbok to make a century of Test appearances after Sunday’s match.
Eben Etzebeth will extend his Springbok record of 129 Test appearances and will captain South Africa for the 14th time.
Malcolm Marx and Makazole Mapimpi and have each scored four tries in 2024 – the most by a Springbok player this year and equal with Aphelele Fassi and Kurt-Lee Arendse, who are not in the match day 23.

[OomStruisbaai]

Vineyards nearly right

[Sandstorm]

20 – Siya Kolisi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 89 caps, 60 points (12t)
21 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 84 caps, 55 points (11t)
22 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 31 caps, 5 points (1t)

Be interesting to see how these usual match starters perform as a unit off the bench.

[boere wors]

Kwagga should never, ever start. I thought that is common sense

[OomStruisbaai]

20 – Siya Kolisi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 89 caps, 60 points (12t)
21 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 84 caps, 55 points (11t)
22 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 31 caps, 5 points (1t)

Be interesting to see how these usual match starters perform as a unit off the bench.

This is probably one test to far for Rassie, saving his A team for England.

[OomStruisbaai]

Kwagga should never, ever start. I thought that is common sense

That combination is very good,. Expect the unexpected on sunday. Rassie want to dominate 1st and 2 nd phase with his packs.

[OomStruisbaai]

The biggest worry is who will get the red card. AE or Escom?

[Sandstorm]

The biggest worry is who will get the red card. AE or Escom?

[bok_viking]

Kwagga starting at 8 is a bit of a worry. I cannot remember one good game he played for the boks when he started at 8 against top tier opposition. His impact is so much better off the bench.
Decent team but sad Hanekom did not at least get a bench spot. This team combination might be rusty as they have not played much rugby together as a unit so I hope they can put a performance in as a unit, it can easily be a disjointed performance that Scotland can benefit from.

[Slick]

Have we still not announced?

1-0 to Toony!

[Tichtheid]

[Tichtheid]

Kyle Rowe didn't quite make it, but by the sounds of things both he and Darcy Graham will be fit for Portugal and the Wallabies

[Biffer]

That's about as heavy a pack as we could have picked, as strong a set of backs as was available. Line out will be relentlessly attacked so we better have a few in the back pocket to change it up. As I said a while ago, the books will bash us off the breakdown and aside from a few flashes of skill for a couple of scores well be dominated and comfortably beaten. Very worried if Zander goes down with an injury (Kwagga Smith starting to deliberately cheap shot him obviously).

[Slick]

That's about as heavy a pack as we could have picked, as strong a set of backs as was available. Line out will be relentlessly attacked so we better have a few in the back pocket to change it up. As I said a while ago, the books will bash us off the breakdown and aside from a few flashes of skill for a couple of scores well be dominated and comfortably beaten. Very worried if Zander goes down with an injury (Kwagga Smith starting to deliberately cheap shot him obviously).

That front 5 look incredibly vulnerable, particularly Etzebeth and Mostert against our 2.

I'm very surprised to see Jordan in at 15 - I guess him and Kinghorn will be rotating quite a bit but it's a huge ask after 20 minutes of international rugby.

Eeeek.