URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread

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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:03 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:01 pm How was that not a scrum penalty to the Sharks in that last scrum
Hard lines Sards
And JLDP should have seen a red for that c$%t tackle on Andre's leg. Disgusting reffing
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Sards wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:08 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:03 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:01 pm How was that not a scrum penalty to the Sharks in that last scrum
Hard lines Sards
And JLDP should have seen a red for that c$%t tackle on Andre's leg. Disgusting reffing
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Still, you got a LOSING bonus point
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Actually a few positives to take out of the game, tough with all the injuries on either side.

Thought JldP deserved a card for reckless clearout, but don't think more important to result than Esterhuizen going off in the first place. Lost so much D shape. Venter is a waste of space I think.
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For me the Prince had his best game ever. MOTM and double his weight is Vet Frans. He got Ox number.
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All the Boishaaiers played well except Moerat. The Paul Roos poach, Julies was very good for the Sharks. Springbok surely.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:01 pm All the Boishaaiers played well except Moerat. The Paul Roos poach, Julies was very good for the Sharks. Springbok surely.
Julies made Jean Luc his plaything with the ball.
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Sards wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:08 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:03 pm
Sards wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:01 pm How was that not a scrum penalty to the Sharks in that last scrum
Hard lines Sards
And JLDP should have seen a red for that c$%t tackle on Andre's leg. Disgusting reffing
It's a lady ref.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:07 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:01 pm All the Boishaaiers played well except Moerat. The Paul Roos poach, Julies was very good for the Sharks. Springbok surely.
Julies made Jean Luc his plaything with the ball.
Ja he is an outstanding athlete. Actually a Namibian.
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Ref had a poor first half, but she was good in the second.
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:10 pm Ref had a poor first half, but she was good in the second.
She is from KZN
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:10 pm Ref had a poor first half, but she was good in the second.
She is from KZN
She looks more like a Pom
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Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:27 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:21 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:10 pm Ref had a poor first half, but she was good in the second.
She is from KZN
She looks more like a Pom
Nah you think about Hailey from Scotland. She is very good.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:46 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:27 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:21 pm

She is from KZN
She looks more like a Pom
Nah you think about Hailey from Scotland. She is very good.
Holly.

Ref misnaming now, disgusting
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Slick wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:46 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:27 pm

She looks more like a Pom
Nah you think about Hailey from Scotland. She is very good.
Holly.

Ref misnaming now, disgusting
:lol: Holly sound like a nr2 . :shh:
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Oom on the brandy again :sad:
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Man our injury list looks horrid. At least just less than a months break to sort out some niggles
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Chilli2 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:53 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:45 pm Weird to see Ox on the back foot against SA teams.
How is it that Ox and Koch can't scrum after 3 weeks on Deben?
Happened again yesterday. Ali had Koch in a knot. Was great to see Fat Frans technic against Ox. The second shaft from the Stormers floored him. Dreyer is just a penalty machine. Even the lady ref saw him losing bind.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:52 am
Chilli2 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:53 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:45 pm Weird to see Ox on the back foot against SA teams.
How is it that Ox and Koch can't scrum after 3 weeks on Deben?
Happened again yesterday. Ali had Koch in a knot. Was great to see Fat Frans technic against Ox. The second shaft from the Stormers floored him. Dreyer is just a penalty machine. Even the lady ref saw him losing bind.
Frans was scrumming inward. There was an entire debate on it
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Sards wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:28 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:52 am
Chilli2 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:53 pm

How is it that Ox and Koch can't scrum after 3 weeks on Deben?
Happened again yesterday. Ali had Koch in a knot. Was great to see Fat Frans technic against Ox. The second shaft from the Stormers floored him. Dreyer is just a penalty machine. Even the lady ref saw him losing bind.
Frans was scrumming inward. There was an entire debate on it
He is TH. That's where they go if they have to much power for the LH. As long as he keep his bind.
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Sharks scrum was in real trouble with those lightweights playing lock. Imagine the shame of being less powerful than Moerat!
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Sandstorm wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:44 am Sharks scrum was in real trouble with those lightweights playing lock. Imagine the shame of being less powerful than Moerat!
Moerat is actually a good scrummer. Venter threw water melons. JJ Kotze brought stability and our line out and scrums dominate. That last lineout drive from the 22 was something of a beaut.
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Cardiff is quite high on the log. Unnoticed.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:45 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:44 am Sharks scrum was in real trouble with those lightweights playing lock. Imagine the shame of being less powerful than Moerat!
Moerat is actually a good scrummer. Venter threw water melons. JJ Kotze brought stability and our line out and scrums dominate. That last lineout drive from the 22 was something of a beaut.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:49 am Cardiff is quite high on the log. Unnoticed.
Yeah I watched them the other night and they were terrible in the 1st half, bit better in the 2nd and was them really shocked when I saw the table!
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Slick wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:24 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:49 am Cardiff is quite high on the log. Unnoticed.
Yeah I watched them the other night and they were terrible in the 1st half, bit better in the 2nd and was them really shocked when I saw the table!
Got a tough run in from here though, still to go to Ireland twice, got Munster, Sharks and Lions at home and finish up the regular season in SA.

They are not a good side.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:40 am
Sards wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:28 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:52 am

Happened again yesterday. Ali had Koch in a knot. Was great to see Fat Frans technic against Ox. The second shaft from the Stormers floored him. Dreyer is just a penalty machine. Even the lady ref saw him losing bind.
Frans was scrumming inward. There was an entire debate on it
He is TH. That's where they go if they have to much power for the LH. As long as he keep his bind.
The penalties were going the wrong way. Anyway. Officials have admitted to making big mistakes that benefitted the Stormers. Which doesn't help us now.
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Sards wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:56 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:40 am
Sards wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:28 am

Frans was scrumming inward. There was an entire debate on it
He is TH. That's where they go if they have to much power for the LH. As long as he keep his bind.
The penalties were going the wrong way. Anyway. Officials have admitted to making big mistakes that benefitted the Stormers. Which doesn't help us now.
Last week aswell?
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Sharks scrum is simply not good. Has some good days at full strength, but weak/poorly coached for ages. Same with maul defense. Can't complain about pens if we don't get set-up right.
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Anyone seen Oxbot?
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Sandstorm wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:16 am Anyone seen Oxbot?
He only come around when the Sharks win. Kokkerot.
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Leinster with so many OH options they can afford to let Harry Byrne go to Bristol on a 3 month loan, while AJ McGinty is injured

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/a ... xj21jg5pxo
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:07 pm Leinster with so many OH options they can afford to let Harry Byrne go to Bristol on a 3 month loan, while AJ McGinty is injured

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/a ... xj21jg5pxo
He should have taken the Connacht offer over the summer.

Odd business considering that he has only just signed a Leinster contract.
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:54 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:07 pm Leinster with so many OH options they can afford to let Harry Byrne go to Bristol on a 3 month loan, while AJ McGinty is injured

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/a ... xj21jg5pxo
He should have taken the Connacht offer over the summer.

Odd business considering that he has only just signed a Leinster contract.
Yeah, the IRFU have to do a better job of dividing the loaves & fishes between the Provinces.

Harry picking up splinters in his arse in Leinster while Billy Burns is starting in Munster makes zero sense !!
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The sad thing is that due to lack of game time, we don't know if he's better than Billy Burns. He might actually be worse.

Going to have to be a serious rethink but the first part is that Ulster and Munster need to get their development sorted.
I exclude Connacht from that for the moment but depending on private schools to develop players for the entire country is fraught with risks.
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:03 am The sad thing is that due to lack of game time, we don't know if he's better than Billy Burns. He might actually be worse.

Going to have to be a serious rethink but the first part is that Ulster and Munster need to get their development sorted.
I exclude Connacht from that for the moment but depending on private schools to develop players for the entire country is fraught with risks.
Yeah, outside of Leinster there needs to be a network of clubs, with the Province providing coaching training, & having a network of scouts to make sure that any players that show talent get extra coaching, or fast tracked to the Province, or a scholarship to one of the schools, which is pretty much how it works in Leinster.
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Uncle fester wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:03 am The sad thing is that due to lack of game time, we don't know if he's better than Billy Burns. He might actually be worse.

Going to have to be a serious rethink but the first part is that Ulster and Munster need to get their development sorted.
I exclude Connacht from that for the moment but depending on private schools to develop players for the entire country is fraught with risks.
In fairness, considering their size, Connacht have been doing a damned sight better than either Munster or Ulster at developing Indigenous players!

I think the IRFU really need to define development structures and force them onto the provinces. I think I'm right in saying that Evan O'Connell is the first Limerick forward to come through since Damian Varley (who RETIRED ten years ago). I don't care how successful Hurling is (or how brilliant the Leinster Schools are), that is a catastrophic failure and heads need to roll for it!

The fact O'Connell is imbued with Ligind doesn't fill me with confidence that he would have come through if he had a different name!
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Watched some of the Cardiff v Ospreys and Scarlets v Dragons matches yesterday.
Bloody hell, no wonder Welsh rugby is in a mess!!!
The first match was dreadful though at least in the second match Scarlets played some attractive attacking rugby and in Tom Rogers had the best player on view all afternoon
I have no idea just how the Dragons manage to survive?
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https://rugby365.com/tournaments/europe ... e-dipping/

Plumtree moaning again [or should that be still?]

What does he offer up as the solution though? If we left the North Competitions, then we would be back in Super Rugby and travelling to the far South.

Then he would moan about that.
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Chilli2 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 am https://rugby365.com/tournaments/europe ... e-dipping/

Plumtree moaning again [or should that be still?]

What does he offer up as the solution though? If we left the North Competitions, then we would be back in Super Rugby and travelling to the far South.

Then he would moan about that.
He is a Kiwi. The All Blacks only play 10 matches a year. He should listen to SARU CEO. The Kiwis dump us.
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Chilli2 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:04 am https://rugby365.com/tournaments/europe ... e-dipping/

Plumtree moaning again [or should that be still?]

What does he offer up as the solution though? If we left the North Competitions, then we would be back in Super Rugby and travelling to the far South.

Then he would moan about that.
He's not moaning, he's making very valid observations that has implications on the Springboks. Our Bok players are getting flogged at the moment and we will pay the price.

He does offer a solution, if you read the article. A proper pre-season. But that is difficult given the global calendar but I don't see any other long-term solution.
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