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Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:04 am Meanwhile the president-elect with the mentality of an 8 year-old (apologies to genuine 8 year-olds) posts “Governor Newsscum “ and smirks as if he has said something really clever. Naturally, his base love it as it shows their man is really sticking it to the liberals.
Not sure I can stand another 4 years of Trump drivel and it will only get worse as his dementia gets worse!
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Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am
convoluted wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:16 am
The insurance companies too were so certain of looming disaster that, fearing bankruptcy, they recently cancelled fire insurance for homes in that LA area.
At about the same time, the black female mayor of Los Angeles cut the firefighting budget by $17.5 million to divert multi-millions to woke causes instead.
Meanwhile, California had donated its 'surplus' fire fighting equipment to Ukraine.

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
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Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am
convoluted wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:16 am
The insurance companies too were so certain of looming disaster that, fearing bankruptcy, they recently cancelled fire insurance for homes in that LA area.
At about the same time, the black female mayor of Los Angeles cut the firefighting budget by $17.5 million to divert multi-millions to woke causes instead.
Meanwhile, California had donated its 'surplus' fire fighting equipment to Ukraine.

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Oh cool, you have racists on NPR, too. That’s very inclusive.
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Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am
convoluted wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:16 am
The insurance companies too were so certain of looming disaster that, fearing bankruptcy, they recently cancelled fire insurance for homes in that LA area.
At about the same time, the black female mayor of Los Angeles cut the firefighting budget by $17.5 million to divert multi-millions to woke causes instead.
Meanwhile, California had donated its 'surplus' fire fighting equipment to Ukraine.

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Again... the descriptor is irrelevant. Try this...

'the white male mayor'.

So, she was jumped at the airport by some self declared reporter who eagerly posted the interaction on Twatter. Apparently, she'd flown to Ghana earlier in the week to attend an inauguration. Nothing really wrong with that... and the wildfires sparked off very quickly over the space of a day, while she was already away. She's back in the country now, within a day or so of the fires starting.

Seems like a witch hunt.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:14 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Again... the descriptor is irrelevant. Try this...

'the white male mayor'.

So, she was jumped at the airport by some self declared reporter who eagerly posted the interaction on Twatter. Apparently, she'd flown to Ghana earlier in the week to attend an inauguration. Nothing really wrong with that... and the wildfires sparked off very quickly over the space of a day, while she was already away. She's back in the country now, within a day or so of the fires starting.

Seems like a witch hunt.
I think ‘lynching’ is the correct term, in this case.
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Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:16 pm I think ‘lynching’ is the correct term, in this case.
Uppity black folks causin' all them fires
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Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:14 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Oh cool, you have racists on NPR, too. That’s very inclusive.
We don't celebrate them though.
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Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:14 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:07 am

Can you explain why the "black female" descriptor is relevant please?
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Oh cool, you have racists on NPR, too. That’s very inclusive.
Oh fuck off idiot, first you have no clue of what you’re talking about, second I was quoting an article from todays NYTimes and making sarcasm of the way the other poster described her and finally you should know that this is not the UK, Americans depict all the time people by their origin, colors or faith.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/l ... ponse.html
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:56 pm
She's had a few quality responses to the Shitgibbon's verbal diarrhea when it gets pointed in Mexico's direction.
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Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:24 pm
Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:14 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm
Maybe because she was in Ghana when she should have been in LA.
Oh cool, you have racists on NPR, too. That’s very inclusive.
Oh fuck off idiot, first you have no clue of what you’re talking about, second I was quoting an article from todays NYTimes and making sarcasm of the way the other poster described her and finally you should know that this is not the UK, Americans depict all the time people by their origin, colors or faith.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/l ... ponse.html
Only black people in Ghana. Got it.
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Ali Cadoo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:10 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:24 pm
Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:14 pm

Oh cool, you have racists on NPR, too. That’s very inclusive.
Oh fuck off idiot, first you have no clue of what you’re talking about, second I was quoting an article from todays NYTimes and making sarcasm of the way the other poster described her and finally you should know that this is not the UK, Americans depict all the time people by their origin, colors or faith.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/l ... ponse.html
Only black people in Ghana. Got it.
I’d maybe step away as you are barking up the wrong tree with Maryland
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Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:40 pm
Ali Cadoo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:10 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:24 pm
Oh fuck off idiot, first you have no clue of what you’re talking about, second I was quoting an article from todays NYTimes and making sarcasm of the way the other poster described her and finally you should know that this is not the UK, Americans depict all the time people by their origin, colors or faith.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/l ... ponse.html
Only black people in Ghana. Got it.
I’d maybe step away as you are barking up the wrong tree with Maryland
I dunno, they are giving off strong ‘cunt’ vibes…
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Ali Cadoo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:46 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:40 pm
Ali Cadoo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:10 pm

Only black people in Ghana. Got it.
I’d maybe step away as you are barking up the wrong tree with Maryland
I dunno, they are giving off strong ‘cunt’ vibes…
You could try listening to people who frequent here or just be a wanker with your tiny sample size.
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Uncle fester wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:19 pm
Ali Cadoo wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:46 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:40 pm

I’d maybe step away as you are barking up the wrong tree with Maryland
I dunno, they are giving off strong ‘cunt’ vibes…
You could try listening to people who frequent here or just be a wanker with your tiny sample size.
Don’t recall asking you a fucking thing.
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Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
The visa MAGA civil war is all forgotten about now.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
Shitloads of mineral resources I think.

In the old days the good folk of Greenland would have sent Junior's head back in a bag as a message.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:15 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
The visa MAGA civil war is all forgotten about now.
It certainly seems to be forgotten about (although I suspect it will rear its head again), but they actually sent Don jr. to Greenland, Trump keeps mentioning it when often he would've moved on by now. Like I said, it feels different to prior dead cat strategy. Or maybe we're now in an era of dead lions.
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Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:15 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
The visa MAGA civil war is all forgotten about now.
This is standard MAGA approach - flood the news arena with lots and lots of garbage to distract everyone with what they are doing behind the scenes. Make it difficult for everyone to decide what is important and what is just bullshit and confuse everyone whilst they destroy the USA. They dont give a shit how much chaos they create, in fact they want more, and they dont give a shit about the human cost of doing this ie personal threats to Jess Phillips. Musk is just fulfilling a big 'look over here' role and it is working. They are real busy behind the scenes and think they are so clever and are laughing about the chaos they are hiding behind and are getting on with the deregulation agenda etc. We are all, particularly the likes of the BBC, Sky etc are being taken for mugs with our pavlovian response to whatever shite they spew out.

The thing they are most worried about is the LA fires as this derails their 'green agenda is woke nonsense' agenda and might mean more folk are pissed off once they start drilling for oil everywhere in the US and beyond, hence the huge unfounded attacks on Newsome, Biden and the water, raking leaves, etc shite. However they think, rightly, that within 6 months folk will have forgotten all about this and they will just crack making more money with the oil and gas producing mates.

Better get used to this folks, it is going to be utter shite 4 years for the US and the world.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:58 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
Shitloads of mineral resources I think.

In the old days the good folk of Greenland would have sent Junior's head back in a bag as a message.
Resources, strategic defence and newly navigational waters with ice melting I think
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dpedin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:09 am
Better get used to this folks
But this is my point, the chaos spreading isn't new, but the level of mobilisation in their media about Greenland and the extent to which they seem to be trying to sell it as a genuine issue feels different to much of the randomised shit-flinging we've witnessed and become accustomed to over the last several years.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:37 am
dpedin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:09 am
Better get used to this folks
But this is my point, the chaos spreading isn't new, but the level of mobilisation in their media about Greenland and the extent to which they seem to be trying to sell it as a genuine issue feels different to much of the randomised shit-flinging we've witnessed and become accustomed to over the last several years.
Agree that they have really ramped up the chaos ahead of the Inauguration. I haven't a clue about Greenland and if they are serious about it or not, ditto Panama Canal. Mineral value of Greenland is huge and there are concerns about the NW Passage as ice melt continues so it might be a real geopolitical issue for them. It would not take much to 'buy' Greenland - it would be quite cheap to buy off 57,000 population relatively speaking given the potential value of the deposits there. On the other hand the more ridiculous the issue then the louder they shout about it, Musks so called concern about gang based CSA in the UK for example. He doesn't give a shit about it and the victims but throws a lot of stuff into the fire and waits to see what burns the highest and the brightest and then amplifies them.

The reality is it is the deregulation agenda in the US that they crave for - reducing employment, environmental, social and healthcare protections in order for them and their backers to make bigger and bigger profits. Big Tech, big Pharma, oil and gas, healthcare, etc will all line Trumps pockets to ensure they have larger profits.

Having said all that there is a small but influential number of more radical, driven ideologists who have a wider scarier agenda. The likes of Thiel and Musk have so much money they are more driven by a 'world view' they want to establish. Interesting that Thiel wrote the preface of the 2020 publication of the Sovereign Individual, written by Rees Mogg Snr & Davidson. Thiel's world view has progressed - read his excruciatingly badly written article on the FT yesterday!

https://www.ft.com/content/a46cb128-1f7 ... 2a76583105

If he and his mates are successful then the US is in for a rocky ride indeed!
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Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:17 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:58 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:07 am Ok, seriously, what is with this Greenland fixation all of a sudden?

I was catching up on The Daily Show and they had a lot of footage of Republican politicians talking about it and from the prime right wing media outlets (Fox, Newsmax) earnestly discussing it.

A lot of Trumpelstiltskin's random utterances don't really get praised or treated seriously outside of the online sphere and the amount of coverage feels very different to the average dead cat.
Shitloads of mineral resources I think.

In the old days the good folk of Greenland would have sent Junior's head back in a bag as a message.
Resources, strategic defence and newly navigational waters with ice melting I think
Yep, what you guys and Dpedin are saying is correct.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/11/nx-s1-52 ... nal-canada

And Slick, thanks for your input yesterday.
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dpedin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:23 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:37 am
dpedin wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:09 am
Better get used to this folks
But this is my point, the chaos spreading isn't new, but the level of mobilisation in their media about Greenland and the extent to which they seem to be trying to sell it as a genuine issue feels different to much of the randomised shit-flinging we've witnessed and become accustomed to over the last several years.
Agree that they have really ramped up the chaos ahead of the Inauguration. I haven't a clue about Greenland and if they are serious about it or not, ditto Panama Canal. Mineral value of Greenland is huge and there are concerns about the NW Passage as ice melt continues so it might be a real geopolitical issue for them. It would not take much to 'buy' Greenland - it would be quite cheap to buy off 57,000 population relatively speaking given the potential value of the deposits there. On the other hand the more ridiculous the issue then the louder they shout about it, Musks so called concern about gang based CSA in the UK for example. He doesn't give a shit about it and the victims but throws a lot of stuff into the fire and waits to see what burns the highest and the brightest and then amplifies them.

The reality is it is the deregulation agenda in the US that they crave for - reducing employment, environmental, social and healthcare protections in order for them and their backers to make bigger and bigger profits. Big Tech, big Pharma, oil and gas, healthcare, etc will all line Trumps pockets to ensure they have larger profits.

Having said all that there is a small but influential number of more radical, driven ideologists who have a wider scarier agenda. The likes of Thiel and Musk have so much money they are more driven by a 'world view' they want to establish. Interesting that Thiel wrote the preface of the 2020 publication of the Sovereign Individual, written by Rees Mogg Snr & Davidson. Thiel's world view has progressed - read his excruciatingly badly written article on the FT yesterday!

https://www.ft.com/content/a46cb128-1f7 ... 2a76583105

If he and his mates are successful then the US is in for a rocky ride indeed!
This sort of thing will become routine if they get their way.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... dApp_Other
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Yes, CBC raised a warning about navigable more easily exploitable Arctic a few weeks ago. Gotta love that we don't give a shit about the environment, sovereignty, working out deals instead of ramping up tensions/taking...

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Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:11 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:17 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:58 am

Shitloads of mineral resources I think.

In the old days the good folk of Greenland would have sent Junior's head back in a bag as a message.
Resources, strategic defence and newly navigational waters with ice melting I think
Yep, what you guys and Dpedin are saying is correct.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/11/nx-s1-52 ... nal-canada

And Slick, thanks for your input yesterday.
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Didn’t take long.

Washington post “ President-elect Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon is ramping up public attacks on billionaire Elon Musk amid an intensifying debate on the right about Musk’s influence in the incoming administration.

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera this past week, Bannon said Musk “should go back to South Africa,” where he was born, and be denied privileged access to the West Wing. Bannon has also criticized Musk’s support for a skilled-worker visa program that led to a bitter rift last month between far-right activists and Trump’s tech executive supporters, who see the program as a crucial lifeline for Silicon Valley.”
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It’s a rum old turn of events when Bannon calls you racist and dangerous.
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Sinkers wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:10 am It’s a rum old turn of events when Bannon calls you racist and dangerous.
Is Bannon woke now then?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:47 am
Sinkers wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:10 am It’s a rum old turn of events when Bannon calls you racist and dangerous.
Is Bannon woke now then?
Only when sober?
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Greenland are awful eijits if they think they can do a deal with the yanks and not get screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/worl ... iness.html
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:19 pm Greenland are awful eijits if they think they can do a deal with the yanks and not get screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/worl ... iness.html
Will be some kind of fudge , Trump threatens EU economically until Germany twists Danish arm to accept a pittance for allowing the yanks to build lots more military bases and access to mineral rights for a newly ‘independant’ Greenland.
The 57k inhabitants suddenly accidentally find themselves in mansions in Florida.
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The title of this is exaggerated, as so many are these days, but there were some wild removals from Hesgeth's confirmation hearing. (The full stream is up too, but fked if I'm going through the 4+hrs of it)

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Niegs wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:40 pm The title of this is exaggerated, as so many are these days, but there were some wild removals from Hesgeth's confirmation hearing. Seems like old Uncle Jesse was for him, but I can't quite hear what the other two said. (The full stream is up too, but fked if I'm going through the 4+hrs of it)

Some of the shit he said himself and some that he refused to say was pretty crazy. For example, referring to the Geneva conventions as 'burdensome rules'.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Yeeb wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:58 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:19 pm Greenland are awful eijits if they think they can do a deal with the yanks and not get screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/worl ... iness.html
Will be some kind of fudge , Trump threatens EU economically until Germany twists Danish arm to accept a pittance for allowing the yanks to build lots more military bases and access to mineral rights for a newly ‘independant’ Greenland.
The 57k inhabitants suddenly accidentally find themselves in mansions in Florida.
More likely a bunch of robber barons make a killing and Greenlanders get jobs in MacDonalds serving the miners and oilmen.
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Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:54 pm
Yeeb wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:58 pm
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:19 pm Greenland are awful eijits if they think they can do a deal with the yanks and not get screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/worl ... iness.html
Will be some kind of fudge , Trump threatens EU economically until Germany twists Danish arm to accept a pittance for allowing the yanks to build lots more military bases and access to mineral rights for a newly ‘independant’ Greenland.
The 57k inhabitants suddenly accidentally find themselves in mansions in Florida.
More likely a bunch of robber barons make a killing and Greenlanders get jobs in MacDonalds serving the miners and oilmen.
That’s another possibility , as is it will all blow over much like his Mexico wall policy that didn’t actually happen. All very probably just to keep all non US counties on their toes , Eu, Russia, even Canada
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